Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-30 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 05:20:06PM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: > Kevin Ross wrote: > > > If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then > > skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it to > > autologin, and add startx to your ~/.bash_profil

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Lisi wrote: > On Tuesday 29 September 2009 23:20:06 Preston Boyington wrote: >> Kevin Ross wrote: >> >> >> > If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then >> > skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it >> >

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Rob Owens
On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 05:20:06PM -0500, Preston Boyington wrote: > Kevin Ross wrote: > > > If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then > > skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it to > > autologin, and add startx to your ~/.bash_profil

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Lisi
On Tuesday 29 September 2009 23:20:06 Preston Boyington wrote: > Kevin Ross wrote: > > > > If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then > > skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it > > to autologin, and add startx to your ~/.bash_profile.

Re: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Preston Boyington
Kevin Ross wrote: > If you want auto-login, and fast startup with minimal dependencies, then > skip the display manager, change your getty to rungetty and configure it to > autologin, and add startx to your ~/.bash_profile. Then of course you put > whatever window manager you want into ~/.xinitrc

RE: Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Kevin Ross
> From: Lisi [mailto:lisi.re...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 2:32 PM > > On Monday 31 August 2009 23:43:56 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > On Monday 31 August 2009 15:59:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot > process, and > > > suggestions

Suggestions for desktop manager: [was Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-29 Thread Lisi
On Monday 31 August 2009 23:43:56 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2009 15:59:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: > > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and > > suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** > > Thanks very much for the advice and suggestions so far. Much appre

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-06 Thread Cousin Stanley
> As for speeding up the bootprocess: > > # aptitude install dash > # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link > # aptitude install insserv > # dpkg-reconfigure insserv > # echo "CONCURRENCY=shell" >> /etc/default/rcS Andrei After applying the method you outlined above

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-06 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,05.Sep.09, 13:44:01, John Fry wrote: > Andrei Popescu writes: > > > As for speeding up the bootprocess: > > > > # aptitude install dash > > # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link > > That saved me 1s. > > > # aptitude install insserv > > # dpkg-reconfigure insserv >

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-05 Thread John Fry
Andrei Popescu writes: > As for speeding up the bootprocess: > > # aptitude install dash > # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link That saved me 1s. > # aptitude install insserv > # dpkg-reconfigure insserv That *cost* me 2s (i.e., 2s longer to boot). > # echo "CONCURRENCY

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-04 Thread Charles Kroeger
> I used to run IceWm...but recently I have become a convert to > Fluxbox. It's even lighter than Icewm...and I think more versatile but I might as well weigh in here in the spirit of Debian and just say that I've never used Ice but I have used Fluxbox for a time after using Blackbox and thought

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:18:46AM +0300, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > 09/01/2009 06:51 PM, Michelle Konzack:: >> Hey Chris, >> can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? > > By the way, He is using one of our domain name: malagasy.com. > http://whois.domaintools.com/malagasy.com > Blueline

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-03 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
09/01/2009 06:51 PM, Michelle Konzack:: Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? By the way, He is using one of our domain name: malagasy.com. http://whois.domaintools.com/malagasy.com Blueline is owned by Gulfsat. -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Adm

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:28:36 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: ... > /etc/init.d/rc is not a conffile so it will get overwritten on > upgrades without any prompt. As /etc/default/rcS is sourced later on Are you sure that this is right? From section 10.7 of the Debian Policy Manual: "configuration fi

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 02, 2009 at 11:21:04AM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello Chris, > > Am 2009-09-02 21:10:44, schrieb Chris Bannister: > > oops, sorry. /etc/postfix/generic fault, or /etc/hosts not sure. > > Hopefully, fixed. > > ;-) Shit happen... > Couldn't you "trim" your sig for this mailin

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-02 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 09:28:36 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon,31.Aug.09, 18:56:48, Celejar wrote: > > > a) I've seen some references to doing it in /etc/default/rcS as you > > have it, and some in /etc/init.d/rc. On my Sid install, the > > standard /etc/default/rcS has no concurrency varia

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,02.Sep.09, 11:19:59, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > And of course, all 4-8 days I get a loveletter from > that my Server is bouncing, but if I look into the bouncemessage, it is > ALWAYS 100% spam... If you would whitelist liszt.debian.org and *then* pass the mails through your filters,

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Chris, Am 2009-09-02 21:10:44, schrieb Chris Bannister: > oops, sorry. /etc/postfix/generic fault, or /etc/hosts not sure. > Hopefully, fixed. ;-) Shit happen... Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linu

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hi Ron, Am 2009-09-01 20:31:30, schrieb Ron Johnson: > Your SA rules are too strict. No, I get per day several 100 such messages on my mailservers... 99.99% spam, except the ones from Chris. And of course, all 4-8 days I get a loveletter from that my Server is bouncing, but if I look into th

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-02 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 05:51:25PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hey Chris, > > can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? > > You are using an invalid E-Mail address and now the > whole thread is going into the spamassassin folder oops, sorry. /etc/postfix/generic fault, or /etc/hosts no

Re: Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-09-01 10:51, Michelle Konzack wrote: Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? You are using an invalid E-Mail address and now the whole thread is going into the spamassassin folder Your SA rules are too strict. -- Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolyt

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-01 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Wed,02.Sep.09, 03:44:50, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:46:36PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > As for speeding up the bootprocess: > > > > # aptitude install dash > > # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link > > # aptitude install insserv > > apt-cache

Poisoning the SPAMFILTER [WAS: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system]

2009-09-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hey Chris, can you stop poisoning the spamfilters please? You are using an invalid E-Mail address and now the whole thread is going into the spamassassin folder Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network Debian GNU/Linux Consul

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-09-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 06:46:36PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote: > As for speeding up the bootprocess: > > # aptitude install dash > # dpkg-reconfigure dash # let it take over the /bin/sh link > # aptitude install insserv apt-cache show insserv [..] This package should be used with care, as incorr

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,31.Aug.09, 18:56:48, Celejar wrote: > a) I've seen some references to doing it in /etc/default/rcS as you > have it, and some in /etc/init.d/rc. On my Sid install, the > standard /etc/default/rcS has no concurrency variable in it, while the > one under init.d has it set to "none". Which

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
08/31/2009 05:59 PM, Lisi Reisz: The details of the desktop are unimportant, [...] XFCE is currently looking like the front runner, but I fear that it may be en route to getting bloated. Opinions, please. [...] I am trying to speed things up. I have no old machine, but yes XFCE is more and mo

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Charles
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:42:27 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Monday 31 August 2009 16:18:16 Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:59:08 +0100 > > > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot > > >

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Celejar
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:46:36 +0300 Andrei Popescu wrote: ... > As for speeding up the bootprocess: ... > # echo "CONCURRENCY=shell" >> /etc/default/rcS I've seen this stuff floating around the web, but it doesn't seem to be documented very well: a) I've seen some references to doing it in /

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 31 August 2009 15:59:08 Lisi Reisz wrote: > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and > suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** Thanks very much for the advice and suggestions so far. Much appreciated. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 31 August 2009 16:18:16 Cybe R. Wizard wrote: > On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:59:08 +0100 > > Lisi Reisz wrote: > > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, > > and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** > > > > TIA > > Lisi > > I can't help with the boot process b

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Preston Boyington
Lisi Reisz wrote: > XFCE is currently looking like the front runner, but I fear that it may be en > route to getting bloated. Opinions, please. well, it's going to be a little bit of a trade off since I'm seeing more GNOME libs and such. still it will be faster and less bloated than GNOME. >

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Sascha Silbe
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 03:59:08PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** Depending on the hardware / driver bugs and your specific needs, suspend-to-disk might be an option as well. The computer

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,31.Aug.09, 15:59:08, Lisi Reisz wrote: > My husband's box is currently running PCLinuxOS 2009. A dying HDD > necessitates a fresh istallation. > > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and > suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** I'm running Xfce 4.6 f

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread randall
Lisi Reisz wrote: > My husband's box is currently running PCLinuxOS 2009. A dying HDD > necessitates a fresh istallation. > > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and > suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** i hate to say this on a debian list ;) but i was p

Re: Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 15:59:08 +0100 Lisi Reisz wrote: > ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, > and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** > > TIA > Lisi I can't help with the boot process but, if he is used to Libranet Linux (!!! really? How old is /that/?) t

Fast booting for a Debian system - and suggestions for said system

2009-08-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
My husband's box is currently running PCLinuxOS 2009. A dying HDD necessitates a fresh istallation. ***I would be very grateful for help in speeding up the boot process, and suggestions for a suitable DE or WM.*** He finds the PCLOS very slow to boot up after the Libranet that he had instal