Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Mon, 2021-12-27 at 08:39 +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 08:14:17AM +, Tixy wrote: > > On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 22:17 +, piorunz wrote: > > > On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > > > > > > > As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable. My thanks to the >

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Mon, Dec 27, 2021 at 08:14:17AM +, Tixy wrote: > On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 22:17 +, piorunz wrote: > > On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > > > > > As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable. My thanks to the > > > maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchai

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Sun, 2021-12-26 at 22:17 +, piorunz wrote: > On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote: > > > As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable. My thanks to the > > maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchains for > > working on this. > > I extend my thanks to Debian ma

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 21/12/2021 01:06, Kushal Kumaran wrote: As of a day ago, Firefox 91 is now in stable. My thanks to the maintainers of the firefox debian packages and the build toolchains for working on this. I extend my thanks to Debian maintainers also! On both my machines I have removed Mozilla's ESR bi

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Saturday, December 25, 2021 6:06:56 AM EST Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Lu, 20 dec 21, 06:42:47, gene heskett wrote: > > The first arm board builder to give us two pcie slots or two net ports. or > > even 2 parports WILL OWN this market if the MSRP is under $100 with 2 gigs > > of ram. Ideal would

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On Lu, 20 dec 21, 06:42:47, gene heskett wrote: > > The first arm board builder to give us two pcie slots or two net ports. or > even 2 parports WILL OWN this market if the MSRP is under $100 with 2 gigs of > ram. Ideal would be one pci-e, and one net port. SSD's can be put on the > pi4's > on

Re: Risc-V [OT: Firefox ESR EOL]

On Lu, 20 dec 21, 09:53:54, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 01:44:35PM -0500, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside > wrote: > > [...] > > > Would you have some suggestion if I'd like to try out a Risc-V board ? > > Feeding your fave search engine with, e.g. single board computer +"

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09 2021 at 10:12:18 AM, piorunz wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed that Debian Stable uses Firefox ESR 78.15.0, which is final > update of 78 series. All further updates go to Firefox ESR 91, as > Mozilla page says: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/78.15.0/releasenotes > > "Version 7

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On Monday, December 20, 2021 9:45:57 AM EST Stefan Monnier wrote: > > The first arm board builder to give us two pcie slots or two net > > ports. or even 2 parports WILL OWN this market if the MSRP is under > > $100 with 2 gigs of ram. Ideal would be one pci-e, and one net port. > > SSD's can be

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Stefan writes: > Something like the MochaBin, but a bit cheaper? I have an ESPRESSObin board from that outfit up in the shop somewhere. It never worked right due to a defect in the voltage regulator chain. The published schematics for it are wrong, and all my attempts to get support were ignored.

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 4:00 AM Jeremy Ardley wrote: > > On 20/12/21 5:52 pm, Curt wrote: > > On 2021-12-18, Anssi Saari wrote: > >> Nicholas Geovanis writes: > >> > >>> Maybe I missed something. Why RISC V? > >> Just having an alternative is attractive to some. Having an open > >> alternative

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On Monday, December 20, 2021 5:00:07 AM EST Jeremy Ardley wrote: > On 20/12/21 5:52 pm, Curt wrote: > > On 2021-12-18, Anssi Saari wrote: > >> Nicholas Geovanis writes: > >>> Maybe I missed something. Why RISC V? > >> > >> Just having an alternative is attractive to some. Having an open > >> alt

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 20/12/21 5:52 pm, Curt wrote: On 2021-12-18, Anssi Saari wrote: Nicholas Geovanis writes: Maybe I missed something. Why RISC V? Just having an alternative is attractive to some. Having an open alternative even more so. I'd happily run ARM or RISC-V, if those were an alternative for a d

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 2021-12-18, Anssi Saari wrote: > Nicholas Geovanis writes: > >> Maybe I missed something. Why RISC V? > > Just having an alternative is attractive to some. Having an open > alternative even more so. > > I'd happily run ARM or RISC-V, if those were an alternative for a decent > desktop or lapto

Re: Risc-V [OT: Firefox ESR EOL]

On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 01:44:35PM -0500, Polyna-Maude Racicot-Summerside wrote: [...] > Would you have some suggestion if I'd like to try out a Risc-V board ? Feeding your fave search engine with, e.g. single board computer +"Risc-V" yields some hits. A couple of examples: https://liliputin

Re: Risc-V [OT: Firefox ESR EOL]

On 2021-12-19 3:13 a.m., Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 18 dec 21, 14:22:58, David Newman wrote: >> On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:44, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: >>> >>>  > On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 3:56 AM Andrei POPESCU > wrote: > On Jo, 09 dec 21, 23:24:11, Marco Möller wrote: >> >>

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Sb, 18 dec 21, 14:22:58, David Newman wrote: > On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:44, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > >  > >>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 3:56 AM Andrei POPESCU > >>> wrote: > >>> On Jo, 09 dec 21, 23:24:11, Marco Möller wrote: > >>> > > >>> > It's a pity that Debian cannot be flexible to of

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

Anssi Saari wrote: > Nicholas Geovanis writes: > > > Maybe I missed something. Why RISC V? > > Just having an alternative is attractive to some. Having an open > alternative even more so. > > I'd happily run ARM or RISC-V, if those were an alternative for a decent > desktop or laptop computer.

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

Nicholas Geovanis writes: > Maybe I missed something. Why RISC V? Just having an alternative is attractive to some. Having an open alternative even more so. I'd happily run ARM or RISC-V, if those were an alternative for a decent desktop or laptop computer. Raspberry Pi is scratching and clawin

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Dec 18, 2021, at 12:44, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > >  >>> On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 3:56 AM Andrei POPESCU >>> wrote: >>> On Jo, 09 dec 21, 23:24:11, Marco Möller wrote: >>> > >>> > It's a pity that Debian cannot be flexible to offer more secure and >>> > already >>> > available binary versio

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021, 3:56 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Jo, 09 dec 21, 23:24:11, Marco Möller wrote: > > > > It's a pity that Debian cannot be flexible to offer more secure and > already > > available binary versions of software for the assumed many users only > caring > > for installing a binar

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 12/18/21 13:34, Rainer Dorsch wrote: > Am Freitag, 10. Dezember 2021, 13:25:17 CET schrieb Roberto C. Sánchez: >> [...] >> All the hate in this thread is really very tiresome. I'm not directing >> this specifically to you, Christian, rather speaking of the general tone >> of this thread. Discu

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Fri, Dec 10, 2021 at 11:03:50AM +0100, Christian Britz wrote: > > > On 2021-12-10 10:25 UTC+0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > > Indeed, and with absolutely no appreciation for the effort put in by all > > of you Debian folk. Especially in having "stable" *mean* stable! > Indeed! For those who wou

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piorunz writes: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian They mention the Thunderbird situation as well. Looks like the Thunderbird Debian package has 22 open security issue and is version 78.14 in stable. As I've found an AppImage of Librewolf as a reas

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:51:49PM -0500, Michael Castellon wrote: easier than this? You're comparing apples and oranges, here, because your solution (which is perfectly fine, by the way, for those who are happy with it: I do something very similar for myself) doesn't compile Firefox from sour

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Vi, 10 dec 21, 07:46:34, Christian Britz wrote: > On 2021-12-09 19:09 UTC+0100, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:01 AM Christian Britz > > wrote: > > > > Security is the reason why I download and install browser and mail > > client directly

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 2021-12-10 10:25 UTC+0100, Eric S Fraga wrote: > Indeed, and with absolutely no appreciation for the effort put in by all > of you Debian folk. Especially in having "stable" *mean* stable! I love Debian and I appreciate the work of the developers, but I don't like stability in the sense of

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Jo, 09 dec 21, 23:24:11, Marco Möller wrote: > > It's a pity that Debian cannot be flexible to offer more secure and already > available binary versions of software for the assumed many users only caring > for installing a binary from the official Debian repository on some very > typical PC har

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thursday, 9 Dec 2021 at 20:44, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > Too many comments there are just Debian-bashing with no real understanding. Indeed, and with absolutely no appreciation for the effort put in by all of you Debian folk. Especially in having "stable" *mean* stable! Thank you all. --

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 2021-12-09 19:27 UTC+0100, Dan Ritter wrote: > It is absolutely okay to create a FrankenDebian with repos from > testing, unstable, Ubuntu Jovial Jackrabbit and a cronjob that > looks for changes to a webpage somewhere in oracle.com and > automatically downloads and installs a new Java Runtime

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 2021-12-09 19:09 UTC+0100, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:01 AM Christian Britz > wrote: > > Security is the reason why I download and install browser and mail > client directly from the vendor, not Debian repositories. > > > And you m

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

* On 2021 09 Dec 15:29 -0600, Michael Castellon wrote: > all versions: > https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ > > version esr: > wget -O firefox-esr.tar " > https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64"; > > remember, delete cookies, etc: > rm -r ~/.mozilla I agre

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

Am I allowed to top-post myself :-) If we want to make comparisons, why not talk about the BSD flavors? Or Slackware? Those are more apples-to-apples comparison. On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 5:03 PM Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 2:44 PM Andrew M.A. Cater > wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 2:44 PM Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:11:05PM +, piorunz wrote: > > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian > > > > :( > > > > -- > > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The un

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easier than this? $su #cd /opt #wget -O firefox.tar "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64"; #tar xf firefox.tar #ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/ #exit $firefox *info* https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/latest-esr/README.txt Firefox is a web browser d

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:26:33PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > It will be updated soon - there are problems getting some components to > build but as soon as that's done, it'll move from unstable -> stable, I > think. > Sort of. There will be builds prepared specifically for stable, old

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 09.12.21 21:44, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:11:05PM +, piorunz wrote: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian :( -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.d

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 10:16:22PM +, piorunz wrote: > On 09/12/2021 22:06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 08:44:12PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > The one thing that would be good would be a backport of the mesa-utils to > > > Bullseye as that would also solve prob

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 09/12/2021 22:06, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 08:44:12PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: The one thing that would be good would be a backport of the mesa-utils to Bullseye as that would also solve problems with Debian and GUI apps under WSL2 and Windows :) I've seen that

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 08:44:12PM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: The one thing that would be good would be a backport of the mesa-utils to Bullseye as that would also solve problems with Debian and GUI apps under WSL2 and Windows :) I've seen that proposed a few times: backport Mesa to get EG

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 16:28 -0500, Michael Castellon wrote: > all versions: > https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ > > version esr: > wget -O firefox-esr.tar " > https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64"; > > remember, delete cookies, etc: > rm -r ~/.mozilla T

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

all versions: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/ version esr: wget -O firefox-esr.tar " https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64"; remember, delete cookies, etc: rm -r ~/.mozilla Regards. On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 12:28 PM piorunz wrote: > On 09/12/2021 17:1

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:11:05PM +, piorunz wrote: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian > > :( > > -- > With kindest regards, Piotr. > > ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ > ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system > ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ > ⠈⠳⣄ Yes:

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 01:27:56PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > It is absolutely okay to create a FrankenDebian with repos from > testing, unstable, Ubuntu Jovial Jackrabbit and a cronjob that > looks for changes to a webpage somewhere in oracle.com and > automatically downloads and installs a new Ja

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 12/9/21 20:20, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 07:49:01PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> On 12/9/21 19:09, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >>> On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 06:59:07PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: On 12/9/21 18:43, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > Please

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

Nicholas Geovanis wrote: > On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:01 AM Christian Britz wrote: > > > Security is the reason why I download and install browser and mail > > client directly from the vendor, not Debian repositories. > > > > And you may have heard yesterday a young woman on a separate thread advis

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 07:49:01PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 12/9/21 19:09, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 06:59:07PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > >> On 12/9/21 18:43, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > >>> > >>> Please note that Mozilla is constantly updating to new

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 7:01 AM Christian Britz wrote: > Security is the reason why I download and install browser and mail > client directly from the vendor, not Debian repositories. > And you may have heard yesterday a young woman on a separate thread advised NOT to do that. With an audio package

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 12/9/21 19:09, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 06:59:07PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >> On 12/9/21 18:43, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: >>> >>> Please note that Mozilla is constantly updating to newer rustc and LLVM >>> versions. That means that preparing a new major ESR re

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

Got it!! wget -O firefox.tar.bz2 "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-esr-latest&os=linux64&lang=en-GB"; tar vxf firefox.tar.bz2 firefox/firefox You can add switch -P after firefox, it allows you to create new profile, in case you even want to go back to older ESR. Once updated by ES

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 09/12/2021 17:15, Michael Castellon wrote: wget -O firefox.tar "https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest&os=linux64 " Thanks! Can you generate the same, but for Firefox-ESR? -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 09/12/2021 17:18, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:11:05PM +, piorunz wrote: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian :( What utter trash. What is trash? -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universa

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On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 05:11:05PM +, piorunz wrote: > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian > > :( > What utter trash. -- Roberto C. Sánchez

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wget -O firefox.tar " https://download.mozilla.org/?product=firefox-latest&os=linux64"; tar xf firefox.tar ./firefox/firefox ·info· https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/latest/README.txt ·dependency· apt install libdbus-glib-1-2 Regards On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 5:12 AM piorunz wrote: >

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https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Web-Browser-Packages-Debian :( -- With kindest regards, Piotr. ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian - The universal operating system ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ https://www.debian.org/ ⠈⠳⣄

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 06:59:07PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 12/9/21 18:43, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > > Please note that Mozilla is constantly updating to newer rustc and LLVM > > versions. That means that preparing a new major ESR release for Debian > > requires not just the pac

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 12/9/21 18:43, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 04:37:18PM +, Tixy wrote: >> On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 14:18 +, piorunz wrote: >>> On 09/12/2021 12:47, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: >>> Hey Piotr, a new release of Firefox ESR was uploaded to Sid two days ago and

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021, 11:37 AM Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 14:18 +, piorunz wrote: > > On 09/12/2021 12:47, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > > > > Hey Piotr, > > > > > > a new release of Firefox ESR was uploaded to Sid two days ago and > > > probably will be uploaded to stable soon. > > >

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, Dec 09, 2021 at 04:37:18PM +, Tixy wrote: > On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 14:18 +, piorunz wrote: > > On 09/12/2021 12:47, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > > > > Hey Piotr, > > > > > > a new release of Firefox ESR was uploaded to Sid two days ago and > > > probably will be uploaded to stable

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On Thu, 2021-12-09 at 14:18 +, piorunz wrote: > On 09/12/2021 12:47, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > > > Hey Piotr, > > > > a new release of Firefox ESR was uploaded to Sid two days ago and > > probably will be uploaded to stable soon. > > > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=firefo

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

I am testing Bookworm now, both on xfce and lxde. On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 8:01 AM Christian Britz wrote: > Security is the reason why I download and install browser and mail > client directly from the vendor, not Debian repositories. > > For Chromium the situation is (was) even worse IIRC. > Ind

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 09/12/2021 12:47, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: Hey Piotr, a new release of Firefox ESR was uploaded to Sid two days ago and probably will be uploaded to stable soon. https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=firefox-esr&suite=sid ESR 91 was first uploaded to sid in November. It didn't mi

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

Security is the reason why I download and install browser and mail client directly from the vendor, not Debian repositories. For Chromium the situation is (was) even worse IIRC. Am 09.12.21 um 11:12 schrieb piorunz: > Hello, > > I noticed that Debian Stable uses Firefox ESR 78.15.0, which is fin

Re: Firefox ESR EOL

On 12/9/21 12:12, piorunz wrote: > Hello, > > I noticed that Debian Stable uses Firefox ESR 78.15.0, which is final > update of 78 series. All further updates go to Firefox ESR 91, as > Mozilla page says: > https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/78.15.0/releasenotes > > "Version 78.15.0, first off

Firefox ESR EOL

Hello, I noticed that Debian Stable uses Firefox ESR 78.15.0, which is final update of 78 series. All further updates go to Firefox ESR 91, as Mozilla page says: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/78.15.0/releasenotes "Version 78.15.0, first offered to ESR channel users on October 5, 2021 Thi