On Sun, 4 Mar 2007 19:50:17 -0500
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> On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:19:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >
> > 70MB is *huge* amount of data to install *only* to have a gui. IMHO
> > firestarter is only useful if you already have X installed, though
> > this is a bad idea on
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:51:48AM +0100, Andreas Duffner wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >You could run X on another system. People tend to forget that X is a
> >networked protocol.
>
> mmm. I am not sure we are talking about the same thing.
> If yes.. then I'd like to learn how to do it th
Andreas writes:
> Do I understand you right, that I do not have to download these X-files,
> if I intend to export the display to another computer ?
You need some libraries but no X-server. Firestarter 1.0.3-1.3
dependencies:
libart-2.0-2 (>= 2.3.16), libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.12.2),
libaudiofile0 (>=
On Mon, Mar 05, 2007 at 02:51:48AM +0100, Andreas Duffner wrote:
>
> Do I understand you right, that I do not have to
> download these X-files, if I intend to export the display
> to another computer ?
>
> That would be really nice.
>
You need the xbase-clients package at a very minimum. You ss
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You could run X on another system. People tend to forget that X is a
networked protocol.
mmm. I am not sure we are talking about the same thing.
If yes.. then I'd like to learn how to do it the other way.
But to be sure I will tell how I see it. If you still think oth
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 11:19:02PM +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
>
> 70MB is *huge* amount of data to install *only* to have a gui. IMHO
> firestarter is only useful if you already have X installed, though this
> is a bad idea on a server.
You could run X on another system. People tend to forget
Andrei Popescu wrote:
Andrei Popescu wrote:
I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall.
With firestarter? How?
[snip X11 forwarding stuff]
If *that* isn't shooting a fly with a canon, than I don't know what
is.
[snip rant against console users]
You *really* do not read what othe
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:09:10 +0100
Andreas Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall.
> >>> With firestarter? How?
> >
> > [snip X11 forwarding stuff]
> >
> > If *that* isn't shooting a fly with a canon, than I don't kn
Andrei Popescu wrote:
I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall.
With firestarter? How?
[snip X11 forwarding stuff]
If *that* isn't shooting a fly with a canon, than I don't know what is.
Mmm. So why do you use shorewall at all ? It is like using a pistol
against an unarmed inv
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 02:03:51 +0100
Andreas Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall.
> >
> > With firestarter? How?
[snip X11 forwarding stuff]
If *that* isn't shooting a fly with a canon, than I don't know what is.
With shorewall I just open
On 1 Mar 2007 08:41:10 -0800, Jordi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello
I saw two good firewalls:
- Firestarter wich is easy
- Shorewall wich seems versatile
Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall
worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall?
ShoreWall i
Andreas Duffner writes:
> WebInterface...
So you have a Web server running on your firewall. Not good.
> ...so you do not *have* to install some software.
You wouldn't have to install software to use ssh.
> [QOS] would be really cool. I'd like to have it.
Linux already has it.
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I use ssh with X11 forwarding to manage the firewall.
With firestarter? How?
On my side in
/etc/ssh/ssh_config (that is for the client)
ForwardX11 yes
that way you dont have to say ssh -X bla bla
on the other side in
/etc/ssh/sshd_config (that is for the server)
X11Forwarding yes
Then I allo
Jordi wrote:
Anyway, please give me opinions about the router by SMC Networks:
7904WBRA2
http://www.smc.com/index.cfm?event=viewProduct&localeCode=EN_USA&pid=1588
First I have no wide knowledge of routers. I only know some.
But I can tell you what I think while reading the data sheet.
Perhaps i
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 14:25:12 +0100
Andreas Duffner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So I just want a working firewall.
> And firestarter does this job.
> I do not know about complex setups with multiple servers.
> I am just using one server, client etc at the time.
> The firewall shall protect one com
Thanks Andreas.
I agree with most that you said, as I am very pragmatic on my needs.
I think I will buy the router I said, wich looks a very strong router
from security point of view, and plus install firestarter and some
other utility if I need.
And things sometimes are not so complex. For exam
Peter writes:
> Or, if you like ease of use (great web based GUI)...
I do not want a Web server running on my router.
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On 3-mrt-2007, at 14:52, John Hasler wrote:
Jordi writes:
To have a good hardware firewall buy a good router-switch or a
specific
hardware device.
To have a good hardware firewall buy a cheap used pc, install Linux
on it,
and configure it as a router and firewall.
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Or, if you like eas
Jordi writes:
> To have a good hardware firewall buy a good router-switch or a specific
> hardware device.
To have a good hardware firewall buy a cheap used pc, install Linux on it,
and configure it as a router and firewall.
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On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:08:36AM +, David Hart wrote:
>
> If you need to manage a half-dozen zones the chances are that you'll
> be doing packet filtering on specialized hardware so shorewall will
> be of no use.
>
Well, chances are you don't know what you are talking about. Please go
look
Jordi wrote:
I saw two good firewalls:
- Firestarter wich is easy
- Shorewall wich seems versatile
Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall
worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall?
I can only tell about firestarter. Perhaps it helps a bit.
First,
Thanks for the links
I asked in the Ubuntu forum too and they say me that it may be
unnecessary to combine hardware firewall and software firewall
(iptables or any other that uses it).
But they said I can do, if I am paranoid.
And as you said, the correct place to stop an intruder is BEFORE they
c
On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 08:08:36AM +, David Hart wrote:
> On Thu 2007-03-01 16:05:32 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote:
> > > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John, that seems to complicated
On Thu 2007-03-01 16:05:32 -0500 Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> > >
> > > John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a
> > > hardware firewall.
> > > Rove
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:25:33PM +0100, Joe Hart wrote:
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> Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> > On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I saw two good firewalls:
> >> - Firestarter wich is easy
> >> - Shorewall wich see
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Jordi wrote:
> Oh yes,
>
> I will take all that is said in exam, and learn all to some degree.
> But I have so much work on Java, php, and virtual reality modelling
> languages, plus build the site, so I think I better build a simple
> server, as stro
Oh yes,
I will take all that is said in exam, and learn all to some degree.
But I have so much work on Java, php, and virtual reality modelling
languages, plus build the site, so I think I better build a simple
server, as strong as I can. But can't spend months or years learning,
I need to start d
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:45:41PM +0100, Franck Joncourt wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> > I take note, John and Roberto.
> >
> > John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a
> > hardware firewall.
> > Roverto, seems you like to do a control
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 11:56:41AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> I take note, John and Roberto.
>
> John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a
> hardware firewall.
> Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be
> an expert. I will try to do as you say, and
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Juergen Fiedler wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I saw two good firewalls:
>> - Firestarter wich is easy
>> - Shorewall wich seems versatile
>>
>> Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of
I take note, John and Roberto.
John, that seems to complicated for me, but seems good as it is a
hardware firewall.
Roverto, seems you like to do a control of all parameters, you must be
an expert. I will try to do as you say, and learn a bit.
Thanks for your opinions.
Jordi
On 1 mar, 19:50, "R
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:50:02AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> I saw that shorewall can have a GUI if I also install Webmin.
>
> Is Webmin a good tool to install? has some kind of disavantage? Is it
> better to not use webmin?
>
Personally, I don't like webmin as it insulates too much from you. If
you
Jordi> I saw two good firewalls:
Jordi> - Firestarter wich is easy
Jordi> - Shorewall wich seems versatile
Just to be contrary, I like and use m0n0wall (http://www.m0n0.ch) at
home in a WRAP board. Very nice, very quiet, plenty of performance.
Nice web based interface, boots off compact flash,
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> Hello
>
> I saw two good firewalls:
> - Firestarter wich is easy
> - Shorewall wich seems versatile
>
> Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall
> worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall?
The fa
I saw that shorewall can have a GUI if I also install Webmin.
Is Webmin a good tool to install? has some kind of disavantage? Is it
better to not use webmin?
Thanks
Jordi
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Thanks Roberto
I will do then the effort and try to install and use Shorewall.
Jordi
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On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 08:41:10AM -0800, Jordi wrote:
> Hello
>
> I saw two good firewalls:
> - Firestarter wich is easy
> - Shorewall wich seems versatile
>
> Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall
> worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall?
>
Pers
Hello
I saw two good firewalls:
- Firestarter wich is easy
- Shorewall wich seems versatile
Wich is best for a single server pc? Does the complexity of shorewall
worth the effort or is firestarter as good as shorewall?
Just this
Thanks
Jordi
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