On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:18:45 -0500
Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Marc Wilson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern: For
the vast majority of
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Marc Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:44:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
If you want to fork the library, and convince app writers to
use it.
Gnome and company realized that they couldn't fork GTK... no one
would pay attention. Instead
Marc Wilson wrote:
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:44:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
If you want to fork the library, and convince app writers to use it.
Gnome and company realized that they couldn't fork GTK... no one would pay
attention. Instead they co-opted it.
Does this help?
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 00:30:12 -0400
Patrick Wiseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/11/06, Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:14:29PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched
from mozilla to firefox and the
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:40:03AM +0100, Liam O'Toole wrote:
The new dialog is supplied by GTK, not GNOME, so it will show up in
XFce too. Just an advance warning ;-)
Ah, but who do you think controls GTK now? Hint... it ain't the GIMP
people.
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Marc Wilson | New York's got the ways
On 6/13/06, Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern:
For the vast majority of people, I'd suggest that using
GTK-apps or QT-apps in mutual exclusion is a serious case of
On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
I learned that you can just start typing a path, it hasn't bothered
me much. Of course, I also usually
On 6/14/06, Michael Marsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but ever since
I learned that you can just start typing a path,
Michael Marsh wrote:
Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
/usr/bin. Unless they've fixed that recently. I really don't like
typing /usr/bin/xine and then waiting a minute for the OK button
to
Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched from
mozilla to firefox and the new file dialog is driving me up the wall...
Ah, if it were only a rant. The problem is that the Gnomies actually
feel they're in the right.
I'd noticed recently that file dialogs were
On Wed, 2006-06-14 at 12:33 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
On 6/14/06, Michael Marsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for the GTK
file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT version, but
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Michael Marsh wrote:
On 6/14/06, Kelly Clowers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And returning to the original topic, I don't get the hate for
the GTK file picker. Given a choice, I will take the QT
version, but ever since I learned that you can just start
On 6/14/06, Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael Marsh wrote:
Where the suckitude of the new GTK file picker really shines is when
you need to specify that a file should be opened with a program in
/usr/bin. Unless they've fixed that recently. I really don't like
typing /usr/bin/xine
On 6/14/06, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can add direct, persistent links to the File Picker dialog box.
That should alleviate some of your pain.
Which dialog box do you mean? If you mean the one that gives you the
option of saving to disk, opening with the default, or selecting
What are the odds I can plead someone into forking FireFox to use a
different set of widgets, either QT or something more generic (wxWindows?)?
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Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your
government when it
On 6/14/06, Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What are the odds I can plead someone into forking FireFox to use a
different set of widgets, either QT or something more generic (wxWindows?)?
There is some QT code in FF already, but I think it is unmantained,
so I don't know if it will
Michael Marsh wrote:
About 27s for me. I type in the path and click OK for the small
dialog that pops up when you start typing. It's then about 27s before
that dialog goes away and I can click OK on the actual file picker.
Ah. That delay actually occurs when the actual file picker (for lack
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Joey Hess wrote:
Michael Marsh wrote:
About 27s for me. I type in the path and click OK for the
small dialog that pops up when you start typing. It's then
about 27s before that dialog goes away and I can click OK on
the actual file picker.
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Michael Marsh wrote:
On 6/14/06, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can add direct, persistent links to the File Picker dialog
box. That should alleviate some of your pain.
Which dialog box do you mean? If you mean the one that gives you
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael Marsh wrote:
About 27s for me. I type in the path and click OK for the small
dialog that pops up when you start typing. It's then about 27s before
that dialog goes away and I can click OK on the actual file picker.
Ah. That delay actually
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David Zelinsky wrote:
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michael Marsh wrote:
About 27s for me. I type in the path and click OK for the
small dialog that pops up when you start typing. It's then
about 27s before that dialog goes away and I
On 6/14/06, Ron Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Save As is what I'm talking about.
http://members.cox.net/ron.l.johnson/Save_As.png
Ah. That's rarely been a problem for me. Generally, I either put all
downloads in the same directory or use wget.
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Michael A. Marsh
On Wed, Jun 14, 2006 at 08:44:11PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
If you want to fork the library, and convince app writers to use it.
Gnome and company realized that they couldn't fork GTK... no one would pay
attention. Instead they co-opted it.
--
Marc Wilson | BOFH excuse #292: We ran out
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Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
On Friday 09 June 2006 09:23, Carl Fink wrote:
You aren't PERMITTED to type a directory path in, even if you
know it?
Just start typing the file name. You can also use ctrl-l.
I don't have a lot of good alternatives
At 1149845000 past the epoch, Carl Fink wrote:
You aren't PERMITTED to type a directory path in, even if
you know it? I thought this was *nix.
I believe this is possible in all versions of the file
chooser, including the newly revamped ones, although I
cannot confirm how as you don't state
At 1150162787 past the epoch, Ron Johnson wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
For good or bad, I shifted from firefox to konqueror
just because of this stupid (IMHO) gtk issue.
If KDE is your DE, then it's a great idea. If your WM/DE
is based on gtk, though, you're adding a lot of extra
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Jon Dowland wrote:
At 1150162787 past the epoch, Ron Johnson wrote:
Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote:
For good or bad, I shifted from firefox to konqueror
just because of this stupid (IMHO) gtk issue.
If KDE is your DE, then it's a great idea. If your
On 6/13/06, Jon Dowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 1150162787 past the epoch, Ron Johnson wrote:
If KDE is your DE, then it's a great idea. If your WM/DE
is based on gtk, though, you're adding a lot of extra
overhead loading both the gtk qt/KDE libraries.
It's a shame that people still
On Tuesday 13 June 2006 10:28, Ron Johnson wrote:
Yes, for s/w which has no other analog. Kino and GoogleEarth
being two examples of Qt apps which I use on my GNOME system.
I did not know that google earth is available for Linux. I just now checked
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern:
For the vast majority of people, I'd suggest that using
GTK-apps or QT-apps in mutual exclusion is a serious case of
premature optimisation and such people are missing out on
On 6/11/06, Marc Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:14:29PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote: Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched from mozilla to firefox and the new file dialog is driving me up the wall...
Ah, if it were only a rant.The problem is
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Marc Wilson wrote:
On Tue, Jun 13, 2006 at 03:07:18PM +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
It's a shame that people still think of this as a concern: For
the vast majority of people, I'd suggest that using GTK-apps or
QT-apps in mutual exclusion is a serious
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 11:25:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Marc Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:14:52AM +0400, ??? ?? wrote:
If you want *nix then try lynx =)
Thank you, but I'm already using links2 in GUI mode and quite
happy with it. I use lynx as well when it's
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 15:04:24 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:14:29PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched from
mozilla to firefox and the new file dialog is driving me up the wall...
Ah, if it were only a
Marc Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:14:52AM +0400, ??? ?? wrote:
If you want *nix then try lynx =)
Thank you, but I'm already using links2 in GUI mode and quite happy with
it. I use lynx as well when it's appropriate but why anyone would
voluntarily use firefox
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 11:02:42PM -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Sun, Jun 11, 2006 at 11:25:37PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
Because it's a full-featured browser? I may not be DFSG-pure, but I
*like* watching Google flash videos, and it's handy to watch MPEGs
and WMVs in the browser.
On Friday 09 June 2006 09:23, Carl Fink wrote:
You aren't PERMITTED to
type a directory path in, even if you know it?
Just start typing the file name. You can also use ctrl-l.
I don't
have a lot of good alternatives to FireFox for browsers. (Konqueror is
okay, but I've become dependent on
On Sat, Jun 10, 2006 at 01:14:29PM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
Thanks for that little rant; it made my day. I recently switched from
mozilla to firefox and the new file dialog is driving me up the wall...
Ah, if it were only a rant. The problem is that the Gnomies actually feel
they're in
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 15:47:43 +0100
Liam O'Toole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:23:20 -0400
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They're terrible. If GNOME has to be the basis for programs like
Firefox, surely they could avoid different for different's sake and
use standard
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:14:52AM +0400, ??? ?? wrote:
If you want *nix then try lynx =)
Thank you, but I'm already using links2 in GUI mode and quite happy with
it. I use lynx as well when it's appropriate but why anyone would
voluntarily use firefox continues to escape me.
--
Marc
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Marc Wilson wrote:
On Mon, Jun 12, 2006 at 03:14:52AM +0400, ??? ?? wrote:
If you want *nix then try lynx =)
Thank you, but I'm already using links2 in GUI mode and quite
happy with it. I use lynx as well when it's appropriate but why
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 19:52:19 -0700, Marc Wilson wrote:
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:23:20AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
Why?
Because WauWau, Havoc, and the rest of their happy-go-lucky band are
convinced that they know far, far, far better than you how you should be
using your computer.
They're terrible. If GNOME has to be the basis for programs like Firefox,
surely they could avoid different for different's sake and use standard
selection dialogs. If I click on a file and want to save it in a particular
directory, it's minimum five clicks now and there's no way to visually
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:23:20 -0400
Carl Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
They're terrible. If GNOME has to be the basis for programs like
Firefox, surely they could avoid different for different's sake and
use standard selection dialogs. If I click on a file and want to
save it in a particular
On Fri, Jun 09, 2006 at 09:23:20AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
Why?
Because WauWau, Havoc, and the rest of their happy-go-lucky band are
convinced that they know far, far, far better than you how you should be
using your computer.
Which would be fine, after all... it's easy to ignore Gnome. Except
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