Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
>> Your message to which I am replying contains no HTML.
>>
>> Likewise the previous one, which is why I wrote "Thank you. That works."
>
> Ok. Thank you too. Have a good day.
thank you both. makes it much easier to read to not have
extra included at the bottom.
> Your message to which I am replying contains no HTML.
>
> Likewise the previous one, which is why I wrote "Thank you. That works."
Ok. Thank you too. Have a good day.
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 13:45, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
wrote:
> > Thank you. That works. That's what I do, as another
> > Gmail user who attempts to do the right thing here :)
> > It does not affect us Gmail users, but it does annoy
> > many other people here.
> Ok, I just hope that the HTML version
> Thank you. That works. That's what I do, as another
> Gmail user who attempts to do the right thing here :)
> It does not affect us Gmail users, but it does annoy
> many other people here.
Ok, I just hope that the HTML version of Gmail defaults to
plain text, I'm not using the normal interface
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 12:53, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
wrote:
> > Please note our code of conduct [1] includes:
> > "Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead."
> > Note 'instead', not 'in addition to'.
> > [1] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
> Yes, I read
> Please note our code of conduct [1] includes:
> "Please don't send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead."
> Note 'instead', not 'in addition to'.
>
> [1] https://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct
Yes, I read your code of conduct, I just thought
that unformatted text messages
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 10:50, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
wrote:
> > If I recall correctly, that is done as follows:
> > Open a Gmail compose window
> > -> click the "more" (3 vertical dots) icon in the bottom toolbar
> > -> click on "plain text mode" until a tick-mark appears beside it.
> > I believe
> If I recall correctly, that is done as follows:
>
> Open a Gmail compose window
> -> click the "more" (3 vertical dots) icon in the bottom toolbar
> -> click on "plain text mode" until a tick-mark appears beside it.
>
> I believe that setting then applies to all future messages, until turned
On Thu, 11 Mar 2021 at 08:31, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z
wrote:
> > You are sending both HTML and plain text, so those of us who dislike
> > the HTML can simply read the plain text.
> Sorry, I hope it doesn't cause too much problems.
> I don't know how to change that behaviour.
If I recall correctly,
> Cant you just upgrade the RAM? My Intel Atom N550 netbook supports 2GB -
That's good advice: check whether your machine has the RAM soldered on
or has an SODIMM: it might be easy to find a pair of old 1GB
SODIMMs to replace the likely pair of 512KB SODIMMs you have.
[ In my case, when I have
> You are sending both HTML and plain text, so those of us who dislike
> the HTML can simply read the plain text.
Sorry, I hope it doesn't cause too much problems.
I don't know how to change that behaviour.
On Wed, 10 Mar 2021 15:06:18 -0400
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
> > only that i wish people would stop posting HTML.
>
> Sorry, I don't know if I'm posting on HTML, gmail does everything
> automatically
> and doesn't let me set the messages to be sent as plain text.
You are sending both HTML
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 11:30:01, Stefan Monnier wrote:
> > I've never heard of an E-mail client that supports automating this, and
> > I'm not entirely sure I'd want it automated, although a "did you forget
> > to finish this?" reminder such as my Thunderbird configuration provides
> > when I type a
On Mi, 10 mar 21, 11:07:49, The Wanderer wrote:
> On 2021-03-10 at 11:00, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > I see that you and a few other people use what I'll call footnotes in
> > your emails, e.g. (with lots of things stripped out):
> >
> > I'm curious how you do that, or more specifically,
> Of course, you can manually download Firefox from the official Website
and use it on a older system. It will probably work for a few years until
Firefox needs a lib which the old Version does not have.
>
> But using the version of Firefox from Debian is much more comfortable, as
it simply just
> only that i wish people would stop posting HTML.
Sorry, I don't know if I'm posting on HTML, gmail does everything
automatically
and doesn't let me set the messages to be sent as plain text.
On 10/03/2021 07:23, "Felix Miata" wrote:
>
> Felix Miata composed on 2021-03-10 05:33 (UTC-0500):
>
> > Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-09 19:00 (UTC-0400):
>
> >> I have been reading throughout the Web
> >> that Xfce4 is not so lightweight as it was before.
> >> Apparently, its
Am 10.03.21 um 01:18 schrieb Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z:
Well, I could try to wait a little with Debian 9 as I did with Windows 7.
That thing of no software updates is very weird.
Windows 7 is many years old yet I can still use the latest version of
Firefox.
Isn't there a way to update user
rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:06:59 AM songbird wrote:
>> Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
>> > PS: If I'm not using the mailing list properly, let me know,
>> > I never used any before.
>>
>> only that i wish people would stop posting HTML.
>
> I don't like HTML in
On 03/10/2021 09:06 AM, songbird wrote:
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
...
[snip]
my preference with that little memory would be to install a
lightweight desktop (i use MATE and that works fine for my
purposes).
I originally used Gnome2 because it was available and tolerated/assumed
my
> I've never heard of an E-mail client that supports automating this, and
> I'm not entirely sure I'd want it automated, although a "did you forget
> to finish this?" reminder such as my Thunderbird configuration provides
> when I type a word like "attach" but don't include an attachment might
>
Songbird and all,
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 10:06:59 AM songbird wrote:
> Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
> > PS: If I'm not using the mailing list properly, let me know,
> > I never used any before.
>
> only that i wish people would stop posting HTML.
I don't like HTML in emails, but I don't
On 2021-03-10 at 11:00, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU and all:
>
> I see that you and a few other people use what I'll call footnotes in
> your emails, e.g. (with lots of things stripped out):
>
> On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 09:08:30 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> Packages from
Andrei POPESCU and all:
I see that you and a few other people use what I'll call footnotes in your
emails, e.g. (with lots of things stripped out):
On Wednesday, March 10, 2021 09:08:30 AM Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Packages from backports are generally good enough to run even on
> "important"
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
...
> Hello.
>
> I'm new to GNU/Linux systems. I would like to know
> why the RAM requirements showed here:
> https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch03s04.en.html
> are double the size of those displayed here:
>
On Ma, 09 mar 21, 20:18:52, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
> > Sorry, I wasn't very clear there. You are correct that 9 is still
> > getting support, especially security updates. However, older versions
> > of Debian don't get newer versions of the software. Not all security
> > fixes can be
On Ma, 09 mar 21, 20:00:15, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
>
> > I'd start with Debian 10 and LXDE or LxQt:
> > https://opensource.com/article/19/12/lxqt-lxde-linux-desktop
> >
> > and switch to the Debian 9 only if they work really slow.
>
> Sounds reasonable, but I would prefer to not download
> 4
On Wed, Mar 10, 2021 at 02:39:14AM +0300, IL Ka wrote:
> By the way: some people use bare window managers instead of full-fledged
> desktop environments.
"Bare" is such a mean word. I call them traditional window managers.
> > Some window managers (like TWM) can run on 8MB of RAM:). The
> Been there. When first using Debian I was on dial-up ;}
> There are several vendors with Debian on various media.
> See: https://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/
>
> My current connection is faster (via cellular network) and my service has
a 2GB/month data cap.
> I am currently using
>
On 03/09/2021 06:00 PM, Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
> How much ram do you have?
> If it is 4Gb or less you should probably use i386 instead of the
amd64 version of Debian.
Yes, I was reading the amd64 version because I was also
attempting to install Debian on a 4GB and Intel Core 2 Duo vPro
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-09 19:00 (UTC-0400):
Stefan Monnier composed on 2021-03-09 17:46 (UTC-0500):
...
>> I have a 1GB laptop here
>> (with XFCE4) and using Firefox on it has been painful for many
>>
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-09 19:00 (UTC-0400):
Stefan Monnier composed on 2021-03-09 17:46 (UTC-0500):
...
>> I have a 1GB laptop here
>> (with XFCE4) and using Firefox on it has been painful for many
>>
Felix Miata wrote:
> KDE is one of the oldest DEs, thus has acquired more features. They need
> not be used all at once, so need not generate the giant monolith feeling
> many would have you believe. It need not use any more RAM than XFCE:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrvJOXypAbk
There is a
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z composed on 2021-03-09 19:22 (UTC-0400):
>> My 2 cents worth, Deb10 with either Mate or xfce desktop. KDE/plasma is
> great, but I find it slow to load on i7 with 8G ram and add. It has more
> config options, but I've gotten over that. Oh, I don't boot often, but I've
> grown
>> That thing of no software updates is very weird.
>> Windows 7 is many years old yet I can still use the latest version of
Firefox.
>
> Yes, but you can't run the latest Chrome on the Windows XP. And you can't
run it on Pentium 3 (because it doesn't support the latest SSE4).
> Modern software
>
> That thing of no software updates is very weird.
> Windows 7 is many years old yet I can still use the latest version of
> Firefox.
>
Yes, but you can't run the latest Chrome on the Windows XP. And you can't
run it on Pentium 3 (because it doesn't support the latest SSE4).
Modern software
> Sorry, I wasn't very clear there. You are correct that 9 is still
> getting support, especially security updates. However, older versions
> of Debian don't get newer versions of the software. Not all security
> fixes can be backported. So there is a slow, imperceptible gap between
> older
>> I wouldn't know since I use XFCE4 everywhere, but the desktop
>> environment only has some impact. When it comes to Firefox, the main
>> issue is Firefox itself and the pages you visit.
>
> I had trouble with Firefox in the past on Windows 7,
> I had to change to Chrome then. Surprisingly,
>
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 19:44:44 -0400
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
> > I recommend against Debian 9, as it is getting old. I generally
> > recommend keeping to the current Debian release for security
> > reasons.
>
> Hmm, I thought that Debian 9 received enough security updates, and it
> still have
> Definitely not) Use the Desktop environment like lxde/lxqt: it uses
concepts you are already familiar with: Desktop, main menu, icons etc..
I used a Live CD with LXDE on the other PC,
it looked fine but it was a bit disappointing compared to Windows 7 Starter.
I could not install a firmware
> How much ram do you have?
> If it is 4Gb or less you should probably use i386 instead of the amd64
version of Debian.
Yes, I was reading the amd64 version because I was also
attempting to install Debian on a 4GB and Intel Core 2 Duo vPro
desktop PC, which I thought could run Debian 10 with KDE.
IL Ka wrote:
> By the way: some people use bare window managers instead of full-fledged
> desktop environments.
>
>> Some window managers (like TWM) can run on 8MB of RAM:). The smallest one
> is called CWM (created by OpenBSD).
> https://packages.debian.org/buster/cwm
>
> but it is for these
> By the way: some people use bare window managers instead of full-fledged
desktop environments.
>
> Some window managers (like TWM) can run on 8MB of RAM:). The smallest one
is called CWM (created by OpenBSD).
> https://packages.debian.org/buster/cwm
>
> but it is for these old UNIX gurus who
>
> Thanks for your advice, I think my laptop is from 2013,
> but it is Pineview, id est Intel Atom.
>
How much ram do you have?
If it is 4Gb or less you should probably use i386 instead of the amd64
version of Debian.
I'd start with Debian 10 and LXDE or LxQt:
> Tell us more about your laptop. Have you tried booting a Debian live CD
> on it?
Well, my laptop is an Acer Aspire One D255E,
it has 1GB of RAM and an Intel Atom Inside N455
with Intel GMA integrated.
> I recommend against Debian 9, as it is getting old. I generally
> recommend keeping to the
By the way: some people use bare window managers instead of full-fledged
desktop environments.
> Some window managers (like TWM) can run on 8MB of RAM:). The smallest one
is called CWM (created by OpenBSD).
https://packages.debian.org/buster/cwm
but it is for these old UNIX gurus who never leave
> IMHO: it is better to use the latest Debian even on the old laptop unless
your laptop is 15 years old.
>
> You can try LXDE: https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE
> It is very lightweight:)
>
> "tasksel" (tool that runs when you install Debian) asks you which DE to
enable. You can choose LXDE there.
>
>
G'day
My 2 cents worth, Deb10 with either Mate or xfce desktop. KDE/plasma is great,
but I find it slow to load on i7 with 8G ram and add. It has more config
options, but I've gotten over that. Oh, I don't boot often, but I've grown
impatient.
As I said, my 2 cents worth.
--
Keith
On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 18:30:15 -0400
Cmdte Alpha Tigre Z wrote:
> I'm new to GNU/Linux systems. I would like to know
> why the RAM requirements showed here:
> https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch03s04.en.html
> are double the size of those displayed here:
>
> G'day
>
> My 2 cents worth, Deb10 with either Mate or xfce desktop. KDE/plasma is
great, but I find it slow to load on i7 with 8G ram and add. It has more
config options, but I've gotten over that. Oh, I don't boot often, but I've
grown impatient.
>
> As I said, my 2 cents worth.
Wow, it looks
>
> Excuse my ignorance, I have a bit old laptop and I don't know if it would
> be better
> to have Debian 9 so I can, possibly, load KDE on it, or instead Debian 10
> but having to limit myself to lightweight applications only.
>
IMHO: it is better to use the latest Debian even on the old laptop
> Debian testing.
I see that you use the latest version of the system,
maybe it could have some impact on performance.
> I wouldn't know since I use XFCE4 everywhere, but the desktop
> environment only has some impact. When it comes to Firefox, the main
> issue is Firefox itself and the pages
On Tue, 09 Mar 2021 17:46:16 -0500
Stefan Monnier wrote:
> I have a 1GB laptop here
> (with XFCE4) and using Firefox on it has been painful for many
> years already.
There is a bug in the 686 version of vivaldi, or I would recommend it
to you. The amd64 version is great for low memory
>> I have a 1GB laptop here (with XFCE4) and using Firefox on it has
>> been painful for many years already.
> May I ask, what version of Debian do you use?
Debian testing.
> I have been reading throughout the Web that Xfce4 is not so
> lightweight as it was before. Apparently, its performance
> I have a 1GB laptop here
> (with XFCE4) and using Firefox on it has been painful for many
> years already.
May I ask, what version of Debian do you use?
I have been reading throughout the Web
that Xfce4 is not so lightweight as it was before.
Apparently, its performance is comparable to that
> I'm new to GNU/Linux systems. I would like to know
> why the RAM requirements showed here:
> https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch03s04.en.html
> are double the size of those displayed here:
> https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch03s04.html.en
I think it just reflects the
Hello.
I'm new to GNU/Linux systems. I would like to know
why the RAM requirements showed here:
https://www.debian.org/releases/buster/amd64/ch03s04.en.html
are double the size of those displayed here:
https://www.debian.org/releases/stretch/amd64/ch03s04.html.en
Excuse my ignorance, I have a
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