On 1 November 2014 18:12, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 01 nov 14, 17:21:29, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>>
>> After a week of tests, I realized that `systemd-journal` is not ready
>> for prime time.
>>
>> A lot of times, it consumes 100% of CPU, making the system almost unusable.
>>
>> Debian Jessie
On 01/11/14 19:21, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
After a week of tests, I realized that `systemd-journal` is not ready
for prime time.
A lot of times, it consumes 100% of CPU, making the system almost unusable.
Debian Jessie should not activate `systemd-journal` by default (for
logging), even when wit
On Sb, 01 nov 14, 17:21:29, Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>
> After a week of tests, I realized that `systemd-journal` is not ready
> for prime time.
>
> A lot of times, it consumes 100% of CPU, making the system almost unusable.
>
> Debian Jessie should not activate `systemd-journal` by default (for
>
On 22 October 2014 21:50, David L. Craig wrote:
> There is only one way the default init for Jessie can
> be changed at this point in time--the Release Team
> must conclude systemd will have turned out to be a
> release critical nightmare likely well into the feature
> freeze. There is only one w
Peter Nieman wrote:
On 25/10/14 17:38, Martin Read wrote:
I would take the "several alternatives" as tending to indicate that
perhaps sysvinit + sysvrc does not work "perfectly well", but instead
merely BALGE (By And Large Good Enough).
I really doubt that it indicates anything like that. Ther
On 25/10/14 17:38, Martin Read wrote:
I would take the "several alternatives" as tending to indicate that
perhaps sysvinit + sysvrc does not work "perfectly well", but instead
merely BALGE (By And Large Good Enough).
I really doubt that it indicates anything like that. There are more
reasons w
Martin Read wrote:
On 25/10/14 15:31, Peter Nieman wrote:
3. There's no alternative to X so far, but there are several
alternatives to systemd, and one of them has worked perfectly well for
most people until the present day.
I would take the "several alternatives" as tending to indicate that
On 25/10/14 15:31, Peter Nieman wrote:
3. There's no alternative to X so far, but there are several
alternatives to systemd, and one of them has worked perfectly well for
most people until the present day.
I would take the "several alternatives" as tending to indicate that
perhaps sysvinit + s
On 25/10/14 12:36, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Vi, 24 oct 14, 14:24:31, Peter Nieman wrote:
And there should be ethical considerations, e. g. to not expose the users by
default to software that due to its complexity and technical characteristics
might facilitate intrusion and spying.
Dam'it, we
On Vi, 24 oct 14, 14:24:31, Peter Nieman wrote:
>
> And there should be ethical considerations, e. g. to not expose the users by
> default to software that due to its complexity and technical characteristics
> might facilitate intrusion and spying.
Dam'it, we must get rid of X.
Kind regards,
And
On 23/10/14 22:10, David L. Craig wrote:
On 14Oct23:2035+0300, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote:
That's not the point. From the technical point of
view, IMO, you are correct but that's not the only
view that exists in Debian Project, me thinks.
[snip]
My choices reg. my use of technology isn'
2014/10/24 0:45 "David L. Craig" :
>
> On 14Oct23:0004-0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
>
> > Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
>
> The code speaks when its execution reveals a need to
> run reportbug (or not). When we fail to run reportbug,
> we muzzle the code and possibly allo
On 14Oct23:2035+0300, Dimitrios Chr. Ioannidis wrote:
> That's not the point. From the technical point of
> view, IMO, you are correct but that's not the only
> view that exists in Debian Project, me thinks.
[snip]
> My choices reg. my use of technology isn't based
> only on technical grounds, y
Στις 23-10-2014 18:29, David L. Craig έγραψε:
On 14Oct23:0004-0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
< snip >
If you want systemd to not be the default, you need
to prove to the Release Team it is unworthy, and the
only way to do that is to do
On 14Oct23:0004-0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
The code speaks when its execution reveals a need to
run reportbug (or not). When we fail to run reportbug,
we muzzle the code and possibly allow that bug to be
part of the Jessie release. Hop
Dne Čt 23. října 2014 11:23:51 Andrei POPESCU napsal(a):
> update-rc.d kdm disable
I didn't know this command, but I know similar command sysv-rc-conf.
Thank you.
--
Josef Leo Bureš
---
„Teoretické znalosti dnes už nestačí.
Člověk musí překročit jejich hranice a umění se stane neumělým uměním
On 23/10/14 17:08, Josef Leo Bureš wrote:
> Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a):
>
>> Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
> Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking.
> I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kdm, if I ne
On Jo, 23 oct 14, 08:08:56, Josef Leo Bureš wrote:
> Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a):
>
> > Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
> Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking.
> I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kd
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:04:11AM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> Systemd or something tried to put another firewall on my computer called
> Pyroman
I think "or something". Pyroman has absolutely no reverse dependencies, so
even a very confused aptitude would not install it automatically. I'm afr
Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a):
> Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking.
I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kdm, if I need not
kdm (this is my case), so I have been start
Dne Čt 23. října 2014 06:04:11 Charles Kroeger napsal(a):
> Is that your idea of letting the code speak for itself?
Yes, it's possible one from possibilities of code speaking.
I have the systemd and have one problem with it, starting kdm, if I need not
kdm (this is my case), so I have been start
On Thu, 23 Oct 2014 02:10:01 +0200
"David L. Craig" wrote:
> Let's use our
> keyboards to launch test cases in preference to soapbox
> rhetoric that likely proves nothing.
>
> Let's let the code speak for itself for a while.
I've not had many problems with systemd excepting my firewall, Shorewa
There is only one way the default init for Jessie can
be changed at this point in time--the Release Team
must conclude systemd will have turned out to be a
release critical nightmare likely well into the feature
freeze. There is only one way for that to happen--lots
of open RC bugs having systemd
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