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From: David J. Evans[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: kernel size (was: How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to
work?)
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:04:04 +0100 Casper
From: Casper BodenCummins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IMHO, a better alternative to the large, best-endeavours kernel would be
to ship a really tight kernel and use the installation front-end to
configure additional support (in modules where possible or desirable).
The stripped-down kernel for 1.2 is
The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
features, or pared down.
I disagree. The default kernel need not contain anything that isn't necessary
to boot. This means floppy, minix, and ramdisk drivers. Ide might be useful;
this should (imho) be loadable as a
The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
features, or pared down.
From: Todd Tyrone Fries [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The default kernel need not contain anything that isn't necessary
to boot. This means floppy, minix, and ramdisk drivers.
This is the way it will be
To:debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: kernel size (was: How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to
work?)
The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
features, or pared down.
I disagree. The default kernel need not contain anything that isn't
necessary
to boot
On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Gilbert Ramirez Jr. wrote:
I think that you missed the original poster's point. Users shouldn't
have to recompile their kernels to get their PS/2 mice to work. Such a
I will unfortunately continue this thread with nothing but opinions. I
think that any person
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996 10:04:04 +0100 Casper BodenCummins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snipped stuff about PS/2 support not being present by
default ]
The real question is whether the default kernel should be bloated with
features, or pared down.
As a brand new Debian user who didn't even
As Ben McKeegan said:
On Wed, 14 Aug 1996, Gilbert Ramirez Jr. wrote:
I will unfortunately continue this thread with nothing but opinions. I
think that any person wanting to run Unix on their own computer should be
able to 1) download files, 2) uncompress and untar files, 3) type 'make
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Rahner)
Users shouldn't have to recompile their kernels to get their PS/2 mice
to work.
It's my fault. I built the generic kernel, and built in all of the modules
I could, and I missed the fact that if I put a y in this little square
box that I would then see a
As Mark Rahner said:
Todd, I'm sure that you're the neatest computer guy on your block, but
I think that you missed the original poster's point. Users shouldn't
have to recompile their kernels to get their PS/2 mice to work. Such a
requirement is enough to keep many potential Debian users
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 13 16:44:48 1996
Someone (sorry, lost name) wrote:
-- one never knows if/when PS/2 mouse is going to be available in a
downloaded kernel, whereas serial support is virtually always there.
Todd Fries ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) responded:
Oh give me a break.
August 1996 22:51
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Subject: Re: How do I get GATEWAY2000 PS/2 mouse to work ?
As Mark Rahner said:
Todd, I'm sure that you're the neatest computer guy on your block, but
I think that you missed the original poster's
On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Casper BodenCummins wrote:
This is an interesting issue. You might use similar justification for
leaving all but the essentials out of the distributed kernel. This would
encourage users to learn how to recompile the kernel, and demonstrate in
doing so that it's
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From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Aug 13 16:44:48 1996
Someone (sorry, lost name) wrote:
-- one never knows if/when PS/2 mouse is going to be available in a
downloaded kernel, whereas serial support is virtually always there.
Todd Fries ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
My experience is that there are a couple of good hardware reasons for
getting serial mice instead of PS/2 mice:
-- we accidentally fried a BIOS chip by delivering a static charge through
a PS/2 mouse. This has never happened with a serial mouse,
and leads me to suspect that the PS/2
Mike Taylor wrote:
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mark Edward Johnston wrote:
I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
find the mouse.
The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
and what
As Susan G. Kleinmann said:
My experience is that there are a couple of good hardware reasons for
getting serial mice instead of PS/2 mice:
-- removing the PS/2 mouse frees up an IRQ.
Perhaps I am wrong, but a serial mouse also requires an IRQ... and a serial
port! With my PS/2 mouse I
As Mark Edward Johnston said:
- The modules.tgz file on the special kernel 1 boot disk
is corrupted. If this was fixed I could have obtained the
module I needed by extracting it from this file.
I'd like to take time to point this out. I thought that I was the only one
This did not work, however - the make failed (after the best part of an
hour had elapsed) when it was unable to find as86. I could not find
as86 anywhere on my system, and so was stuck.
Hmm. Perhaps kernel-package should depend on bin86? You definitely
need the bin86 package to build a
The standard kernel image from debian does not support ps2 mouse.
Look in the special-kernels directory. There is a config file for each
kernel to tell you what the kernel supports. I believe the kernel that was
built with config-1 contains ps2 mouse support. It should contain a
line like
There is a package called bin86 in the devel area which contains the
as86 and ld86 binaries, which are necessary for kernel-compilation.
Once you have these, the compilation should proceed smoothly.
I don't know if this is properly a bug in the distribution, though, because
you don't need the
I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
find the mouse.
The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
and what seems to be a PS/2 mouse.
I have linked /dev/mouse - /dev/psmouse (- /dev/psaux)
and
Mark Edward Johnston wrote:
I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
find the mouse.
The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
and what seems to be a PS/2 mouse.
I have linked
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mark Edward Johnston wrote:
I have installed Linux (Debian 1.1) on a friend's computer,
but can't get X to work as it complains about not being able to
find the mouse.
The system is a Gateway 2000 DX2/66 with Cirrus Logic 5434
and what seems to be a PS/2 mouse.
I
On Thu, 8 Aug 1996, Mike Taylor wrote:
Lots of people seem to have problems getting PS2 mice up. My Gateway +
PS2 worked fine under Slackware 3.0, but I still can't get it to work
under Debian. I have tried all the stuff that you tried plus
compiling a custom kernel (with the Debian source
on the other hand, most laptops with builtin mouse or trackball or
force stick or glidepoint seem to use the PS/2 interface... which is
an argument (polite request :-) for having it in the default kernel.
Can't free up the IRQ in that case either...
Hey,
I had trouble with a PS/2 mouse to.. As many have.. I dont know if this
will work, but it did for me. ( I even got this advice from this list a
few weeks ago ).
In the XF86Config file, edit it... And where it says Device Pointer
Or somthing of that matter, it might say /dev/mouse ..
Thanks to all who replied to this posting. I have now got the
mouse working.
To summarise :
Support for PS/2 mouse is not in the kernel on the standard Debian boot
disk, either built in or as a module. Thus, to use a PS/2 mouse one has
to obtain a kernel with the required support. The
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