Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-26 Thread Paul Ausbeck
with hyperthreading enabled. I'll delve more deeply into this as time allows. On 5/14/2014 4:05 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: While examining the kernel log for another reason, I came across evidence that acpi_idle, and not intel_idle, is being used

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-15 Thread Paul Ausbeck
Curiouser and curiouser. I have a second dn2800mt machine that my girlfriend uses. I ran some tests while there and I'm more uncertain than ever about what is going on. First, hdparm does not report correctly with hyperthreading enabled just as with the original machine. However, the problem

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-14 Thread Paul Ausbeck
While examining the kernel log for another reason, I came across evidence that acpi_idle, and not intel_idle, is being used on my dn2800mt system, see below. In fact, it seems that intel_idle cannot be used. Is there some sort of binary blob involved here?

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-14 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 14 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: While examining the kernel log for another reason, I came across evidence that acpi_idle, and not intel_idle, is being used on my dn2800mt system, see below. In fact, it seems that intel_idle cannot be used. Is there some sort of binary blob involved

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 09 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: I've actually done dummy file reads and writes previously. Well actually just writes. And they go at full speed, no matter what hparm says. For example, your example, works at full speed: dd if=/dev/zero of=somefile bs=10M count=100 ; You have to call

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 08 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: Next, I don't agree that this hyperthreading problem reeks of a firmware issue. What it reeks of is a linux kernel issue. I'm not Well, it reeks of bad interaction of Linux and the firmware, which *usually* is caused by bad firmware when an Intel desktop

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Ausbeck
says that disk bandwidth is much lower than it should be, but only when hyperthreading is enabled. But, the system doesn't appear to be THAT much more unresponsive when hyperthreading is enabled over when disabled. So I'm leaning toward the idea that hdparm's calculation is being spoofed somehow

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
might end up testing the cpu heatsink/cooler as well... But, the system doesn't appear to be THAT much more unresponsive when hyperthreading is enabled over when disabled. So I'm leaning toward the idea that hdparm's calculation is being spoofed somehow. Hmm, there's a way to test. Time how much

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-09 Thread Paul Ausbeck
if=somefile bs=10M count=100 ; but I wasn't able to find a way to purge the disk cache before I got sidetracked. Perhaps you know of a magic incantation for that? Also, if you look at my data again, you'll see that hdparm -T is not affected by the hyperthreading state, it's only hdparm -t that's affected

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-08 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Mon, 05 May 2014, Paul Ausbeck wrote: I've attached the contents of /proc/cpuinfo below, two copies, one with hyperthreading disabled and one enabled. As I told you, the *very first thing* you must do is to make sure you're using the latest firmware for your motherboard (*especially

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-08 Thread Paul Ausbeck
I don't favor the interleaved response technique, so even if that technique is favored on this list, I'll just stay with keeping enough context so that previous messages don't need frequent reference. Next, I don't agree that this hyperthreading problem reeks of a firmware issue. What

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-05 Thread Paul Ausbeck
I've attached the contents of /proc/cpuinfo below, two copies, one with hyperthreading disabled and one enabled. I've also investigated things a bit further and now I'm thinking that the hyperthreading state affects the system as a whole, not just hdparm. First, I've attached hdparm output

hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-04 Thread Paul Ausbeck
Running Wheezy 7.4, kernel 3.2.0-4-686-pae, also on Debian backports kernel 3.12-0.bpo.1-686-pae sudo hdparm -t /dev/sda /dev/sda: # Hyperthreading enabled in bios Timing buffered disk reads: 36 MB in 3.06 seconds = 11.77 MB/sec # Apparently not correct /dev/sda: # Hyperthreading

Re: hdparm -t yields incorrect timings when Intel hyperthreading is enabled

2014-05-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
that if I disable hyperthreading in the bios, bandwidth readings are as expected. I believe the numbers reported by hdparm are incorrect Did you update to the latest available BIOS for your motherboard ? -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all

Re: Hyperthreading problem with IRQ handling and scheduling

2011-03-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner
physical CPU? I thought that the Linux kernel was hyperthreading-aware and would take these kinds of things into consideration. Is this a true shortcoming of the scheduler, or is my system misconfigured somehow? See my previous reply. And do post about this on lkml. You'll get more thorough

Hyperthreading problem with IRQ handling and scheduling

2011-03-03 Thread Sven Groot
Hello all, I am using a cluster of machines running Debian 5.0.4, kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64. These machines have dual Intel Xeon E5530 2.4GHz CPUs, which are quad-core CPUs with hyperthreading. So that means each machine has 8 physical CPUs and a total of 16 logical CPUs. I have run

Hyperthreading problem with IRQ handling and scheduling

2011-03-03 Thread Sven Groot
Hello all, I am using a cluster of machines running Debian 5.0.4, kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64. These machines have dual Intel Xeon E5530 2.4GHz CPUs, which are quad-core CPUs with hyperthreading. So that means each machine has 8 physical CPUs and a total of 16 logical CPUs. I have run

Re: Hyperthreading problem with IRQ handling and scheduling

2011-03-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Sven Groot put forth on 3/3/2011 11:28 PM: Hello Sven, I am using a cluster of machines running Debian 5.0.4, kernel 2.6.26-2-amd64. These machines have dual Intel Xeon E5530 2.4GHz CPUs, which are quad-core CPUs with hyperthreading. So that means each machine has 8 physical CPUs and a total

RE: Hyperthreading problem with IRQ handling and scheduling

2011-03-03 Thread Sven Groot
will resolve this as well. Thanks, Sven -Original Message- From: Stan Hoeppner [mailto:s...@hardwarefreak.com] Sent: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 16:10 To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Hyperthreading problem with IRQ handling and scheduling Sven Groot put forth on 3/3/2011 11:28 PM: Hello

Re: Debian hyperthreading support

2010-10-24 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Sat, 02 Oct 2010 20:42:01 -0500, Mark wrote in message 4ca7df69.7040...@allums.com: On 10/2/2010 6:08 PM, Nathen wrote: Pretty simple question really, does Debian i.e. the current Linux Kernel handle hyperthreading well? I have a server running on an Intel Atom D510, should I have HT

Re: Debian hyperthreading support

2010-10-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Oct 2010 01:21:33 +0100, Nathen wrote: Thanks for replying. The system is running mainly a file server so it's not very CPU-intensive, I wanted to be sure I wasn't wasting performance by having it enabled, for example. Thanks I don't think you are going to get any penalty in

Debian hyperthreading support

2010-10-02 Thread Nathen
Pretty simple question really, does Debian i.e. the current Linux Kernel handle hyperthreading well? I have a server running on an Intel Atom D510, should I have HT enabled or disabled to get the best performance? Thanks. :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org

Re: Debian hyperthreading support

2010-10-02 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 00:08:30 +0100 Nathen n147258...@googlemail.com wrote: Pretty simple question really, does Debian i.e. the current Linux Kernel handle hyperthreading well? I have a server running on an Intel Atom D510, should I have HT enabled or disabled to get the best performance

Re: Debian hyperthreading support

2010-10-02 Thread Angus Hedger
On Sun, 3 Oct 2010 00:08:30 +0100 Nathen n147258...@googlemail.com wrote: Pretty simple question really, does Debian i.e. the current Linux Kernel handle hyperthreading well? I have a server running on an Intel Atom D510, should I have HT enabled or disabled to get the best performance

Re: Debian hyperthreading support

2010-10-02 Thread Nathen
Thanks for replying. The system is running mainly a file server so it's not very CPU-intensive, I wanted to be sure I wasn't wasting performance by having it enabled, for example. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble?

Re: Debian hyperthreading support

2010-10-02 Thread Mark Allums
On 10/2/2010 6:08 PM, Nathen wrote: Pretty simple question really, does Debian i.e. the current Linux Kernel handle hyperthreading well? I have a server running on an Intel Atom D510, should I have HT enabled or disabled to get the best performance? Thanks. :) Recently (kernel 2.6.31 or so

Re: How to enable/use Hyperthreading?

2006-11-13 Thread Mike Dresser
On Fri, 10 Nov 2006, Colin wrote: I don't think Pentium D processors are suppose to have two cores. Some of them have hyperthreading which can make then behave like they have two cores. The Pentium D (dual) has two physical cores smudged together on one die, for a total of two cores

Re: How to enable/use Hyperthreading?

2006-11-10 Thread Colin
hyperthreading which can make then behave like they have two cores. Seeing in /proc/cpuinfo that the CPU supports Hyperthreading (the ht flag is in the supported CPU features of this computer), Just because the ht flag is there doesn't mean that supports hyperthreading (strange but true). I

How to enable/use Hyperthreading?

2006-11-09 Thread Rogério Brito
/cpuinfo that the CPU supports Hyperthreading (the ht flag is in the supported CPU features of this computer), I compiled a brand new kernel (2.6.19-rc4 at the time) and answered Yes to the option of using Symmetrict Multithreading (aka Hyperthreading in Intel-speak). I posted things that I thought

Re: hyperthreading not working (?)... /proc/cpuinfo shows 2 cpus

2006-01-08 Thread Michael Przysucha
this out, through google but no luck. I have a single pentium 4 w/ hyperthreading and am running kernel 2.6.13. I built my own kernel and enabled HT and the system seems to recognize two processors. Here is /proc/cpuinfo: /--\ processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel

Re: hyperthreading not working (?)... /proc/cpuinfo shows 2 cpus

2006-01-08 Thread Michael Przysucha
this out, through google but no luck. I have a single pentium 4 w/ hyperthreading and am running kernel 2.6.13. I built my own kernel and enabled HT and the system seems to recognize two processors. Here is /proc/cpuinfo: /--\ processor : 0 vendor_id : GenuineIntel

Re: hyperthreading not working (?)... /proc/cpuinfo shows 2 cpus

2006-01-07 Thread Ishwar Rattan
What is meant by not working? /proc/cpuinfo shows two processors: cpu 0 and cpu 1. -ishwar On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Brandon Simmons wrote: running kernel 2.6.13. I built my own kernel and enabled HT and the system seems to recognize two processors. Here is /proc/cpuinfo:

hyperthreading not working (?)... /proc/cpuinfo shows 2 cpus

2006-01-06 Thread Brandon Simmons
HI I have just spent hours trying to figure this out, through google but no luck. I have a single pentium 4 w/ hyperthreading and am running kernel 2.6.13. I built my own kernel and enabled HT and the system seems to recognize two processors. Here is /proc/cpuinfo

Re: HyperThreading

2005-11-17 Thread Toto Carpaccio
Bonjour, Apres un apt-cache search kernel smp, je trouve linux-image ou kernel-image, la différence entre les deux m'échappe. J'ai testé un apt-get install linux-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp, mais le noyau est installé automatiquement. Moi je préfèrerais me procurer les sources pour les compiler,

Re: HyperThreading

2005-11-17 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Toto Carpaccio a écrit : Bonjour, Apres un apt-cache search kernel smp, je trouve linux-image ou kernel-image, la différence entre les deux m'échappe. kernel-image = linux = 2.6.11 linux-image = linux = 2.6.12 J'ai testé un apt-get install linux-image-2.6.14-2-686-smp, mais le noyau est

Re: HyperThreading

2005-11-17 Thread Toto Carpaccio
Moi je préfèrerais me procurer les sources pour les compiler, comment dois-je m' y prendre ? Tu installes les sources, active le SMP et compile le noyau. tu veux dire que je prends le dernier kernel générique ? Je croyais qu'il y avait un kernel spécifique pour le smp que l'on pouvait

Re: HyperThreading

2005-11-17 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Toto Carpaccio a écrit : Moi je préfèrerais me procurer les sources pour les compiler, comment dois-je m' y prendre ? Tu installes les sources, active le SMP et compile le noyau. tu veux dire que je prends le dernier kernel générique ? Je croyais qu'il y avait un kernel

HyperThreading

2005-11-16 Thread Toto Carpaccio
Comment peut-on savoir si l'hyperthreading est activé ? Merci

Re: HyperThreading

2005-11-16 Thread Igor Genibel
* Toto Carpaccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-16 18:08:27 +0100]: Bonjour, Comment peut-on savoir si l'hyperthreading est activé ? 1) Avoir un noyau smp 2) si cat /proc/cpuinfo dit qu'il y a plus d'un processeur. -- Igor Genibel «Non bene pro toto libertas venditur auro» Freedom is not sold

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-16 Thread Julien Valroff
Le dimanche 16 octobre 2005 à 01:09 +0200, Frédéric Bothamy a écrit : * Julien Valroff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-15 18:48] : [..] Pour préciser ma question, il s'agira d'un poste de travail servant occasionnellement pour du développement basique. Bon, cela est plus précis. Pour ce

Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Julien Valroff
Bonjour, Je me prépare à installer une testing sur un P4 avec hyperthreading, et je me demandais si je devais activer les options SMP lors de la compilation de mon noyau ou non. J'ai vu des posts allant dans les 2 sens, aussi j'aurais aimé avoir vos retours d'expérience. Y a-t-il quelque chose

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread jibux
Julien Valroff a écrit : Bonjour, Je me prépare à installer une testing sur un P4 avec hyperthreading, et je me demandais si je devais activer les options SMP lors de la compilation de mon noyau ou non. OUI J'ai vu des posts allant dans les 2 sens, aussi j'aurais aimé avoir vos retours

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread François Boisson
Le Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:20 +0200 jibux [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Si j'utilise un noyau non SMP, linux ne voit qu'un processeur. Avec le SMP activé il en voit 2. Et alors? Le problème est le suivant, l'hyperthreading si j'ai bien compris consiste à profiter de la relative indépendance entre

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Frédéric Bothamy
options du noyau 2.6.13 : SMT (Hyperthreading) scheduler support, une option qui n'est disponible que si on a activé auparavant le SMP. L'aide pour cette option est la suivante : SMT scheduler support improves the CPU scheduler's decision making when dealing with Intel Pentium 4 chips

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Francois Boisson
Le Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:24:26 +0200 Frédéric Bothamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Je te conseille vivement de passer à un noyau 2.6 pour tirer pleinement profit du HT. Il y a notamment dans les options du noyau 2.6.13 : SMT (Hyperthreading) scheduler support, une option qui n'est disponible que

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Julien Valroff
Le samedi 15 octobre 2005 à 17:24 +0200, Frédéric Bothamy a écrit : * François Boisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-15 17:04] : Le Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:20 +0200 jibux [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Si j'utilise un noyau non SMP, linux ne voit qu'un processeur. Avec le SMP activé il en

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
Samedi 15 octobre 2005, 18:48:54 CEST, Julien Valroff a écrit : [...] Je suis totalement ignare en la matière, et à chaque fois que ce type de question est posée, les réponses sont très techniques, et cela tourne très souvent au débat auquel nous sommes en train d'assister. Et encore,

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)
Le 15.10.2005 19:06:14, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit : Samedi 15 octobre 2005, 18:48:54 CEST, Julien Valroff a écrit : [...] Je suis totalement ignare en la matière, et à chaque fois que ce type de question est posée, les réponses sont très techniques, et cela tourne très souvent au débat auquel

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Sylvain Sauvage
à manipuler au niveau du SE). Plus d'infos par là : http://www.daemonology.net/hyperthreading-considered-harmful/ Mais, bon je disais juste cela à Julien pour montrer qu'on pouvait aller bien plus loin dans le technique (voire le cryptique ou même le 0,001% de cas où cela peut être utile de

Re: Hyperthreading: smp ou pas ?

2005-10-15 Thread Frédéric Bothamy
* Julien Valroff [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-15 18:48] : Le samedi 15 octobre 2005 à 17:24 +0200, Frédéric Bothamy a écrit : * François Boisson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-10-15 17:04] : Le Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:32:20 +0200 jibux [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit: Si j'utilise un noyau non SMP,

Sarge x Pentiun 4 HyperThreading

2005-08-24 Thread Rogério A Bassete
Olá Pessoal, O kernel 2.6.8 SMP do sarge funciona corretamente com um pentiun 4 HyperThreading? Grato, Rogério A Bassete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Sarge x Pentiun 4 HyperThreading

2005-08-24 Thread Paulo Neves
sarge funciona corretamente com um pentiun 4 HyperThreading? Grato, Rogério A Bassete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Paulo Jorge Zagalo das Neves

Re: Sarge x Pentiun 4 HyperThreading

2005-08-24 Thread Mateus Pedroso
/05, Rogério A Bassete[EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu: Olá Pessoal, O kernel 2.6.8 SMP do sarge funciona corretamente com um pentiun 4 HyperThreading? Grato, Rogério A Bassete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

hyperthreading dans le nono

2005-08-22 Thread mess-mate
Bonjour, je viens de compiler un 2.6.12 en y actvant le hypertreading et le smp. Lors du boot un message apparait 'hyperthreading disabled' ! Je viens de vérifier la .config, tout a l'air normal. J'ai biensur un pIV hyperthreading qui peut donc faire fonction de smp. Quelqu'un peut me dire

Re: hyperthreading dans le nono

2005-08-22 Thread Philippe Marzouk
On Mon, Aug 22, 2005 at 11:30:10AM +0200, mess-mate wrote: Bonjour, je viens de compiler un 2.6.12 en y actvant le hypertreading et le smp. Lors du boot un message apparait 'hyperthreading disabled' ! Je viens de vérifier la .config, tout a l'air normal. J'ai biensur un pIV hyperthreading

Hyperthreading

2005-07-23 Thread Andrew J. Fields
I am in the process of building a new computer, and was wondering if Debian 3.1r0a is capable of running on a P4 3.2E Ghz processor with HT Technology. Also, if the OS doesn't support HT, could it still work anyway. Lastly, if this wont work, could you recommend any distributions of Linux that

Re: Hyperthreading

2005-07-23 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 7/23/05, Andrew J. Fields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of building a new computer, and was wondering if Debian 3.1r0a is capable of running on a P4 3.2E Ghz processor with HT Technology. Also, if the OS doesn't support HT, could it still work anyway. Lastly, if this wont

Re: Hyperthreading

2005-07-23 Thread Jacob S
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:13:05 -0500 Andrew J. Fields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in the process of building a new computer, and was wondering if Debian 3.1r0a is capable of running on a P4 3.2E Ghz processor with HT Technology. Also, if the OS doesn't support HT, could it still work anyway.

Fwd: Re: Pentium 4, hyperthreading

2005-06-30 Thread Albert Cervera Areny
Per error tan sols el vaig enviar al leopold -- Missatge transmès -- Subject: Re: Pentium 4, hyperthreading Date: Wednesday 29 June 2005 00:20 From: Albert Cervera Areny [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Wednesday 29 June 2005 00:07, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda va

Re: Pentium 4, hyperthreading

2005-06-29 Thread Jaume Sabater
Sí, has de compilar el kernel amb SMP (o posar-ne un que ho tingui compilat). I quan facis un cat /proc/cpuinfo veuras que t'apareixen 2 cpu's. El Dimecres 29 Juny 2005 00:07, Leopold Palomo Avellaneda va escriure: Hola, els P4 moderns tenen una característica que fan veure al sistema i a la

Pentium 4, hyperthreading

2005-06-28 Thread Leopold Palomo Avellaneda
Hola, els P4 moderns tenen una característica que fan veure al sistema i a la placa com si fossin una màquina dual, amb dos cpus. La pregunta és: el kernel s'ha de configurar com si fos smp? el problema que tinc és que amb un kernel normal, un procés com a molt m'ocupa el 50% de temps de

APM et SMP (hyperthreading)

2005-01-06 Thread Christophe Dominique
Salut, Existe-t-il un moyen de faire fonctionner l'APM avec un processeur Hyperthreading ? En fait, je souhaiterais simplement que mon PC se coupe automatiquement avec la commande HALT ou avec l'option sous KDE. Je suis sous Debian unstable avec le noyau 2.6.10. Merci d'avance.

Re: APM et SMP (hyperthreading)

2005-01-06 Thread Laurent CARON
Christophe Dominique wrote: Salut, Existe-t-il un moyen de faire fonctionner l'APM avec un processeur Hyperthreading ? En fait, je souhaiterais simplement que mon PC se coupe automatiquement avec la commande HALT ou avec l'option sous KDE. Je suis sous Debian unstable avec le noyau

Re: Enabling hyperthreading

2004-10-13 Thread Micha Feigin
On Tue, Oct 12, 2004 at 02:49:19PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote: I've got P4 3GHz Hyperthreading on Intel 865PERL mainboard, hyperthreading enable on BIOS. I'm currently using sid 2.4.27 kernel with alsa compiled. I

Re: Enabling hyperthreading

2004-10-13 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Micha Feigin wrote: I don't know enough about hyperthreading vs. real SMP but IIRC 2.6 kernels are much better at smp then 2.4 They are extremely better at SMT (HyperThreading) than 2.4 kernels are. But HT works just fine on 2.4, I am typing this from a Intel D875PBZ

Re: Enabling hyperthreading

2004-10-12 Thread Paolo Alexis Falcone
hyperthreading in my desktop debian. I've got P4 3GHz Hyperthreading on Intel 865PERL mainboard, hyperthreading enable on BIOS. I'm currently using sid 2.4.27 kernel with alsa compiled. I had tried to use 2.4.27-smp kernel and debian just freeze at boot. This is weird behavior... nevertheless try

Re: Enabling hyperthreading

2004-10-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 13 Oct 2004, Paolo Alexis Falcone wrote: I've got P4 3GHz Hyperthreading on Intel 865PERL mainboard, hyperthreading enable on BIOS. I'm currently using sid 2.4.27 kernel with alsa compiled. I had tried to use 2.4.27-smp kernel and debian just freeze at boot. This is weird

Enabling hyperthreading

2004-10-10 Thread ms linux
I'm very sorry for asking the same question as I had before. But since googling doesn't help me much ( no luck I guess or I'm just too lazy ), I wonder if anybody here got good enough how to to enabling hyperthreading in my desktop debian. I've got P4 3GHz Hyperthreading on Intel 865PERL mainboard

Cpufreqd + CPU P4 HyperThreading

2004-06-20 Thread Selim Dogguy
Bonjour, je viens de configurer mon portable acec acpi cpufreqd afin d'adapter la frequence du processuer suivant s'il est branché au secteur ou pas et ça marche très bien à un détail près. Etant donné que le processeur est en HyperThreading le noyau detece deux processuers cpu0 et cpu1. Cpufreqd

Re: Hyperthreading P4 noyau 2.4.26 option SMP ?

2004-06-19 Thread Milou
Le Fri, 18 Jun 2004 23:32:30 +0200 jeremy paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] à écrit: je sais pas si mon premier message est partit . Bonjour, je viens d'installer sur mon P4 2.8 HT debian, j'ai recompilé le noyau afin d'avoir le support P4 et non 686 avec le kernel-image-... et je me pose la

Hyperthreading P4 noyau 2.4.26 option SMP ?

2004-06-18 Thread linux
Bonjour, je viens d'installer sur mon P4 2.8 HT debian, j'ai recompilé le noyau afin d'avoir le support P4 et non 686 avec le kernel-image-... et je me pose la question si je dois activer config_smp ? pour prendre en charge mon processeur correctement ... j'ai cherché sur internet mais

Re: Hyperthreading P4 noyau 2.4.26 option SMP ?

2004-06-18 Thread jeremy paris
je sais pas si mon premier message est partit . Bonjour, je viens d'installer sur mon P4 2.8 HT debian, j'ai recompilé le noyau afin d'avoir le support P4 et non 686 avec le kernel-image-... et je me pose la question si je dois activer config_smp ? pour prendre en charge mon processeur

RE: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 /sid- Plex86]

2004-05-20 Thread Eric SCHAEFFER
des perfs... C'est sur. Mais par rapport un CPU non Hyperthreading, il y a quand mme un peu de gain (au moins en utilisation poste de travail, et srement en serveur aussi). Et la diffrence de prix est pas norme. Eric. Pour plus de dtails sur le comment : http://developer.intel.com/technology

RE: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 /sid- Plex86]

2004-05-19 Thread Bruno Muller
Bonjour Le lun 17/05/2004 à 19:46, Eric SCHAEFFER a écrit : Le lun 17/05/2004 à 18:52, Eric SCHAEFFER a écrit : J'avais pas trouvé grand chose sur le net concernant linux et l'hyperthreading. J'ai parlé trop vite : http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-web26/

Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 / sid - Plex86]

2004-05-17 Thread Eric SCHAEFFER
Le lun 17/05/2004 12:48, JusTiCe8 a crit : C'est bien a qu'il faut faire pour utiliser au mieux mon processeur ? (je veux dire, utiliser un noyau SMP) SMP = symetric multi processor, si tu n'en as pas vraiment 2 (windows peut se tromper tout comme le noyau SMP), tu perds en perf je pense.

Re: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 / sid - Plex86]

2004-05-17 Thread Damien POBEL
Le lun 17/05/2004 à 13:12, Eric SCHAEFFER a écrit : [...] Ben, j'ai pas fait de tests, mais ce que je remarque : Si un process me bouffe tout le processeur, je suis en fait à 50% et je peux faire d'autres choses sans être gêné. Je l'ai remarqué par rapport au kernel normal. Ca semble donc

RE: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 / sid- Plex86]

2004-05-17 Thread Mickael Vera
-Message d'origine- De : Eric SCHAEFFER [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Envoy : lundi 17 mai 2004 13:13 : Debian User French Objet : Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 / sid- Plex86] Le lun 17/05/2004 12:48, JusTiCe8 a crit : C'est bien a qu'il faut faire pour

RE: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 / sid- Plex86]

2004-05-17 Thread Eric SCHAEFFER
Le lun 17/05/2004 14:45, Mickael Vera a crit : L'hyperthreading permet de traiter plusieurs instructions indpendantes d'un mme processus en mme temps. Par exemple si tu as les deux instructions la suite A = B x C X = Y / Z ton processeur saura les traiter en mme temps. Il y a plusieurs

RE: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 /sid- Plex86]

2004-05-17 Thread Mickael Vera
Le lun 17/05/2004 14:45, Mickael Vera a crit : L'hyperthreading permet de traiter plusieurs instructions indpendantes d'un mme processus en mme temps. Par exemple si tu as les deux instructions la suite A = B x C X = Y / Z ton processeur saura les traiter en mme temps. Il y a

RE: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 /sid- Plex86]

2004-05-17 Thread Eric SCHAEFFER
Le lun 17/05/2004 17:52, Mickael Vera a crit : Ok. Mais a ne m'explique pas pourquoi Windows dtecte 2 processeurs, et Linux en kernel SMP ragit mieux/plus vite qu'en kernel normal (et me dtecte aussi 2 processeurs). (prcision : kernel prcompils Debian) Serait-ce leur manire eux

RE: Hyperthreading / SMP [Was: Compilation module - kernel 2.6.5 /sid- Plex86]

2004-05-17 Thread Eric SCHAEFFER
Le lun 17/05/2004 18:52, Eric SCHAEFFER a crit : J'avais pas trouv grand chose sur le net concernant linux et l'hyperthreading. J'ai parl trop vite : http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-web26/ Hyper-threading Hyper-threading, an innovation from Intel, is a major hardware

Hyperthreading

2004-02-17 Thread Luis Moran
Hola a todos Tengo un P4 a 3.06, se supone que este procesador tiene HyperThreading... Lo he habilitado en la BIOS He puesto el kernel 2.6.2 y me gustaria saber como debo compilarlo para habilitarlo en el kernel. Como podria chequear luego que esta utlizandolo?? Saludos.

Re: Hyperthreading

2004-02-17 Thread José Juan de Miguel
Luis Moran said: Hola a todos Tengo un P4 a 3.06, se supone que este procesador tiene HyperThreading... Lo he habilitado en la BIOS He puesto el kernel 2.6.2 y me gustaria saber como debo compilarlo para habilitarlo en el kernel. Como podria chequear luego que esta utlizandolo

Re: Hyperthreading

2004-02-17 Thread Xavier Andrade
On Tue, 17 Feb 2004, Luis Moran wrote: Hola a todos Tengo un P4 a 3.06, se supone que este procesador tiene HyperThreading... Lo he habilitado en la BIOS He puesto el kernel 2.6.2 y me gustaria saber como debo compilarlo para habilitarlo en el kernel. Creo que necesitas soporte

Hyperthreading with 2.4.23 ?

2003-12-09 Thread Thomas Gebhardt
, tried several boot parameters: (acpismp=ht, acpismp=force) and greped the kernel sources for hyperthreading). Has anyone got HT working with 2.4.23? Thanks, Thomas here is one of my logs: (actually there are 4 procs found but only 2 activated) Dec 9 17:00:38 master05 kernel: ACPI: have wakeup

Help: Xfree and P4 with hyperthreading - CRASH

2003-11-25 Thread Fabio Muzzi
Hello debian-user, I have installed a Debian Woody with a 2.4.22 kernel taken from Debian unstable on a Intel 865 mainboard with a Pentium4 processor with hyperthreading support. The kernel is configured as SMP and it can see the two virtual processors correctly. Everything works but X

HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Ingram
Can anyone tell me if there is anything special I should enable in my kernel (or any other Debian configuration) to make the most out of an Intel P4 processor with HyperThreading? Just realised my kernel has SMP disabled which might have been a mistake, but I can't find a definitive answer

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Dave Howorth
Andrew Ingram wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is anything special I should enable in my kernel (or any other Debian configuration) to make the most out of an Intel P4 processor with HyperThreading? Just realised my kernel has SMP disabled which might have been a mistake, but I can't find

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Greg Norris
On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Andrew Ingram wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is anything special I should enable in my kernel (or any other Debian configuration) to make the most out of an Intel P4 processor with HyperThreading? Just realised my kernel has SMP disabled which

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread gaspard
On Mon, 29 Sep 2003, Greg Norris wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Andrew Ingram wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is anything special I should enable in my kernel (or any other Debian configuration) to make the most out of an Intel P4 processor with HyperThreading? Just

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Ingram
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:19, Greg Norris wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Andrew Ingram wrote: Can anyone tell me if there is anything special I should enable in my kernel (or any other Debian configuration) to make the most out of an Intel P4 processor with HyperThreading

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 07:59, Andrew Ingram wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:19, Greg Norris wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Andrew Ingram wrote: [snip] Sounds easy enough! Might explain why my BIOS logo doesn't sport the HT after a reboot of Linux, but does after a reboot of

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Sindre
The BIOS is pre-OS, so that logo must be displayed by Windows. Your facts are right, but your conclusion is wrong, the bios is actually aware if the last booted OS did use smp or not. My quad cpu compaq report 3 of the cpus as failed if I reboot after using a non-smp kernel, or 2 failed if I

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Ingram
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 14:29, Ron Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 07:59, Andrew Ingram wrote: On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 13:19, Greg Norris wrote: On Mon, Sep 29, 2003 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Andrew Ingram wrote: [snip] Sounds easy enough! Might explain why my BIOS logo doesn't sport the HT

Re: HyperThreading CPUs under Debian

2003-09-29 Thread Andrew Ingram
On Mon, 2003-09-29 at 14:42, Sindre wrote: The BIOS is pre-OS, so that logo must be displayed by Windows. Your facts are right, but your conclusion is wrong, the bios is actually aware if the last booted OS did use smp or not. My quad cpu compaq report 3 of the cpus as failed if I reboot

Re: hyperthreading

2003-07-27 Thread Albert Cervera Areny
hyperthreading?? Moltes gràcies per adelantat! _ Melodías, logos y mil servicios para tu teléfono en MSN Móviles. http://www.msn.es/MSNMovil/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE

hyperthreading

2003-07-25 Thread what's up
Hola llista!! Algú em pot dir kom ho he de fer per activar el suport per els processadors P4 am hyperthreading?? Moltes gràcies per adelantat! _ Melodías, logos y mil servicios para tu teléfono en MSN Móviles. http

Stöd för 865 krets och hyperthreading

2003-07-23 Thread Sebastian Eriksson
Hej! Jag håller precis på att gå från suse linux till debian samtidigt som jag införskaffat nya delar till datorn bl a den senaste kretsuppsättningen från intel plus tillhörande p4 med hyperthreading. Därför har jag sökt på kernel.org och debians hemsida om stödet för detta. Jag tänkte först

Re: Stöd för 865 krets och hyperthreading

2003-07-23 Thread Christoffer Sawicki
On Wednesday 23 July 2003 13:28, Sebastian Eriksson wrote: Jag håller precis på att gå från suse linux till debian samtidigt som jag införskaffat nya delar till datorn bl a den senaste kretsuppsättningen från intel plus tillhörande p4 med hyperthreading. Därför har jag sökt på kernel.org och

Re: Linux and Intel's Hyperthreading

2003-01-05 Thread Rob Weir
kernel. I | was looking a an Intel 845PE motherboard with a 3.0Ghz cpu. My question | is, how is Hyperthreading supported under linux? Is it a matter of | enabling SMP in the kernel? Anyone playing with one of these CPU's? | | | it is supported by default. the system will see double

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