Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-12-02 Thread Max Nikulin
. It requires opening a link in a browser and copy-paste of the obtained token back. https://alpineapp.email/alpine/alpine-info/misc/xoauth2.html "Authenticating using XOAUTH2 in IMAP and SMTP" Perhaps the procedure might be made a bit more convenient with a dedicated web site or a browser

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed. (fwd)

2023-11-29 Thread Keith Bainbridge
+1 -- All the best Keith BAINBRIDGE +61 447 667 468 keithr...@gmail.com GMT + 10 From my Apad On 29 November 2023 9:07:38 am AEDT, john doe wrote: >On 11/28/23 22:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: >> >> > >Lets keep the possibility of being able to send constructive e-mails >through

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed. (fwd)

2023-11-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
That is absolutely fare. Let me share where things stand. Gareth's step by step instructions were absolutely perfect. I got assistance from a friend living in another country to generated he app password required. What we did not count on is that password timing out before the person

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed. (fwd)

2023-11-28 Thread john doe
On 11/28/23 22:51, Karen Lewellen wrote: Lets keep the possibility of being able to send constructive e-mails through mailing lists so we can avoid having to move to a forum based set up. -- John Doe

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed. (fwd)

2023-11-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed. On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 1:06 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: I suppose you have heard of forward? Gareth nailed the solution perfectly. My associate followed the solution perfectly. So, if a perfect solution flowed from my questions, and my

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 1:06 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > I suppose you have heard of forward? > Gareth nailed the solution perfectly. > My associate followed the solution perfectly. > So, if a perfect solution flowed from my questions, and my sharing the > provided answers, again, I appreciate

Code of Conduct reminder [WAS Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.]

2023-11-28 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:37:53PM -0500, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:26 PM Karen Lewellen > wrote: > > > > You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect. > > Given how some choose to answer, speaking personally, If they wanted to be > > here, they would already be

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
I suppose you have heard of forward? Gareth nailed the solution perfectly. My associate followed the solution perfectly. So, if a perfect solution flowed from my questions, and my sharing the provided answers, again, I appreciate our opinion, but evidence shows otherwise. On Tue, 28 Nov

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 12:26 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > > You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect. > Given how some choose to answer, speaking personally, If they wanted to be > here, they would already be here. Well, I think it is good troubleshooting. The first problem your

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
You are entitled to your opinion, which I respect. Given how some choose to answer, speaking personally, If they wanted to be here, they would already be here. On Tue, 28 Nov 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote: On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 7:02 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: [...] There is an associate in

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-28 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Sun, Nov 26, 2023 at 7:02 PM Karen Lewellen wrote: > [...] > There is an associate in Toronto who is aiming to provide an email setup, > configuring alpine to access gmail, but he has never configured alpine before. Your associate should join the list and then state problems and ask questions

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-28 Thread Karen Lewellen
happen here incorporating imap is what I expect, and 2, insure my associate has correct information, all of my alpine access is via dreamhost, and they do not configure alpine well. My associate is using Alpine 2.5, which I recall has a tool that allows one to authenticate to gmail, but I am seeking

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Joel Roth
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 02:06:13AM +0100, hw wrote: > On Mon, 2023-11-27 at 19:22 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 06:57:51PM +0100, hw wrote: > > > On Sun, 2023-11-26 at 20:54 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > > Your surprise is surprising given you are living no one's

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Max Nikulin
On 28/11/2023 08:06, hw wrote: On Sun, 2023-11-26 at 20:54 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: Your surprise is surprising given you are living no one's life but your own. as they say walk a mile in another person's shoes before you decide you know what solutions are possible for them. This was

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread hw
On Mon, 2023-11-27 at 19:22 +0100, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 06:57:51PM +0100, hw wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-11-26 at 20:54 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > > Your surprise is surprising given you are living no one's life but your > > > own. > > > as they say walk a mile in

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread tomas
On Mon, Nov 27, 2023 at 06:57:51PM +0100, hw wrote: > On Sun, 2023-11-26 at 20:54 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > > Your surprise is surprising given you are living no one's life but your > > own. > > as they say walk a mile in another person's shoes before you decide you > > know what solutions

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread hw
On Sun, 2023-11-26 at 20:54 -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Your surprise is surprising given you are living no one's life but your > own. > as they say walk a mile in another person's shoes before you decide you > know what solutions are possible for them. In that case, I suggest noone try to

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Gareth Evans
On Mon 27 Nov 2023, at 14:43, Karen Lewellen wrote: > Garret, > This is perfection! > It also made me cry. > detailed step by step instructions.. I can just hand this over to the > person constructing things and we will be good to go. > I appreciate the addition of how to capture that password,

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
Garret, This is perfection! It also made me cry. detailed step by step instructions.. I can just hand this over to the person constructing things and we will be good to go. I appreciate the addition of how to capture that password, I will be in one country, with the person getting into my gmail

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Karen Lewellen
? If they exist then they likely support IMAP. Mail is quite sensitive data. A virtual machine may allow to run all necessary tools locally. I admit it may be too complicated. Perhaps Alpine may be installed using MinGW (assuming Windows as the host OS). I am also hoping the  two factor authentication

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Gareth Evans
> On 27 Nov 2023, at 09:32, Gareth Evans wrote: > > More on Google's app passwords (with link to 2FA instructions) for anyone > interested: > > https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en > In case it wasn't clear, app passwords do not require two-factor authentication when

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Gareth Evans
More on Google's app passwords (with link to 2FA instructions) for anyone interested: https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833?hl=en

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Gareth Evans
I should have said, after > Press Ctrl+X to send you first need to enter the alpine master password before it can save the gmail app password for "outgoing" use. Sorry! Gareth

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-27 Thread Gareth Evans
experience sight loss, and have only accessed my gmail account via the > web > interface, I need to > 1, be sure what I am told should happen here incorporating imap is what I > expect, > and 2, insure my associate has correct information, all of my alpine access > is >

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-26 Thread Max Nikulin
to the OS you have installed? If they exist then they likely support IMAP. Mail is quite sensitive data. A virtual machine may allow to run all necessary tools locally. I admit it may be too complicated. Perhaps Alpine may be installed using MinGW (assuming Windows as the host OS). I am also

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-26 Thread Karen Lewellen
wrote: Alpine 2.5, which I recall has a tool that allows one to authenticate to gmail When tho factor authentication is enabled for the google account, it is possible to generate an application password. Almost any mail application supporting IMAP should work with a such password

Re: Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 27/11/2023 07:01, Karen Lewellen wrote: Alpine 2.5, which I recall has a tool that allows one to authenticate to gmail When tho factor authentication is enabled for the google account, it is possible to generate an application password. Almost any mail application supporting IMAP should

Alpine/Gmail/Imap expert needed.

2023-11-26 Thread Karen Lewellen
incorporating imap is what I expect, and 2, insure my associate has correct information, all of my alpine access is via dreamhost, and they do not configure alpine well. My associate is using Alpine 2.5, which I recall has a tool that allows one to authenticate to gmail, but I am seeking someone

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread David Wright
gt; > My longtime web and email host support have been struggling to help > me, Kudos to webmasters dot com > > IMP vs POP ...the "web" seems to reverse the definitions! I don't know > who to trust > > I really want to keep messages on their server, space is Not

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Brad Rogers
Oiwej-BaH-m5hkpIaUvRM8FMziZ13JvH-SstaPrJrRhlHTSNJCzv_R7CSAdhJOhI-Ql&_guc_consent_skip=1700504498 Specifically the part Verify POP or IMAP settings. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The blindingly obvious is never immediate

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Roy J. Tellason, Sr.
On Monday 20 November 2023 11:15:56 am Mike McClain wrote: > Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from > gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all > messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. That's exactly what I'm

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Tixy
On Mon, 2023-11-20 at 10:15 -0600, Mike McClain wrote: > Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from > gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all > messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. > I saw a message making

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-20 Thread Mike McClain
Seeing several messages complaining about fetching messages from gmail.com I'd like to point out that gmail can be set to forward all messages to a gmail account to another account on a different server. I saw a message making that point several years ago, probably here, and seldom log

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Darac Marjal
On 19/11/2023 17:50, Tixy wrote: On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 07:58 -0800, Peter Ehlert wrote: Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have local copies of almost everything, for Me to filter

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2023-11-19 at 07:58 -0800, Peter Ehlert wrote: > > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > > messages > > on the server? > My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have > local > copies of almost everything

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Peter Ehlert
ot; seems to reverse the definitions! I don't know who to trust I really want to keep messages on their server, space is Not an issue. Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? My question was incomplete.  I should have added that I must have local copies

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread peter ehlert
web and email host support have been struggling to help me, Kudos to webmasters dot com IMP vs POP ...the "web" seems to reverse the definitions! I don't know who to trust I really want to keep messages on their server, space is Not an issue. Question: with IMAP is it feasible

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-19 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 19 Nov 2023 11:57:03 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:31:31 + >Brad Rogers wrote: >> Can be altered in Prefs. >> Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. >Thank you. I never told it to do that. I think (but don't quote me) it's the

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: Hello Joe, >currently, selecting an email in the list marks it as read, which is not Can be altered in Prefs. Display; Summaries Message list tab "Mark message as read" section. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}"

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread David Wright
On Sun 19 Nov 2023 at 04:29:57 (+), Tim Woodall wrote: > On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: > > > If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server > > using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may > > help. Oddly, though I'm us

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Tim Woodall
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023, Joe wrote: If this area is likely to be the issue, try telnet to the IMAP server using port 143, you should get back a list of capabilities which may help. Oddly, though I'm using port 993 to my local server, it does not return any information from that port, only on 143

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 08:04, jeremy ardley wrote: On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a ser

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread jeremy ardley
On 19/11/23 01:59, Alex wrote: IMAP clients will therefore keep messages on the IMAP server and not delete them unless you specifically tell them to, for example via right-click -> delete. A client can also alter messages retained on a server or event insert new messa

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Charles Curley
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 19:20:49 + Joe wrote: > Claws cannot compose HTML emails, which may be a showstopper for you. > It can display HTML, though I always use plain text. If I really need > to see HTML, such as when an unsubscribe link is buried in 100K of > useless markup, I use a webmail

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Joe
t; > My longtime web and email host support have been struggling to help > me, Kudos to webmasters dot com > > IMP vs POP ...the "web" seems to reverse the definitions! I don't > know who to trust > > I really want to keep messages on their server, space is N

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Alex
On Sat, 18 Nov 2023 08:58:41 -0800 Peter Ehlert wrote: > Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave > messages on the server? That's why IMAP exists to begin with. IMAP was made to make it possible for multiple clients to manage the same mailbox[1]. IMAP c

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread peter ehlert
to reverse the definitions! I don't know who to trust I really want to keep messages on their server, space is Not an issue. Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? On 8/15/23 09:43, Peter Ehlert wrote: I am a long time user of Thunderbir

Re: IMAP vs POP was Thunderbird vs Claws Mail

2023-11-18 Thread Peter Ehlert
to webmasters dot com IMP vs POP ...the "web" seems to reverse the definitions! I don't know who to trust I really want to keep messages on their server, space is Not an issue. Question: with IMAP is it feasible for a mail client to Leave messages on the server? On 8/15/23 09:43, Peter Eh

Re: Oddity when accessing Courier IMAP from Android

2023-08-18 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 10:27:30PM +0500, Alexander V. Makartsev wrote: > >I suggest to look for a way to enable debug mode for Courier server and >look for clues in logs. > So, after far too much time searching the logs without finding anything useful, I decided to delete the account

Re: Oddity when accessing Courier IMAP from Android

2023-08-11 Thread Alexander V. Makartsev
On 11.08.2023 19:09, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: I am running a Courier IMAP server on Bookworm. When accessing from mutt, Thunderbird, and Android (GMail app), everything works fine. This is over SSL, with a server certificate I have issued from my own CA and with the CA root cert distributed

Oddity when accessing Courier IMAP from Android

2023-08-11 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
I am running a Courier IMAP server on Bookworm. When accessing from mutt, Thunderbird, and Android (GMail app), everything works fine. This is over SSL, with a server certificate I have issued from my own CA and with the CA root cert distributed to all client devices which access the IMAP server

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-29 Thread didier gaumet
Thunderbird) fait à la main tous les jours, quand une perte de messages est notée par l'utilisateur sur le serveur IMAP, il fait une copie des messages concernés depuis le dossier (au sens Thunderbird) d'archivage (au sens Thunderbird) vers le dossier (au sens Thunderbird) du serveur IMAP où il veut

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-29 Thread RogerT
> Le 29 juil. 2023 à 11:00, didier gaumet a écrit : > > Le 28/07/2023 à 23:32, RogerT a écrit : > [...] >> Duplicity (https://duplicity.gitlab.io/ <https://duplicity.gitlab.io/> , >> normalement) >> Il gère le protocole IMAP. >> Merci. > &

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-29 Thread didier gaumet
Le 28/07/2023 à 23:32, RogerT a écrit : [...] Duplicity (https://duplicity.gitlab.io/ <https://duplicity.gitlab.io/> , normalement) Il gère le protocole IMAP. Merci. Avant de me remercier, teste un peu si c'est opérationnel, perso j'ai pas utilisé du tout, je peux juste dire que

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-28 Thread RogerT
o, >> orange, ...) avec des clients configurés en IMAP ? > [...] > > En supplément des outils IMAP qui t'ont été suggérées par différents > intervenants, un autre file de discussion sur cette liste m'a amené à > reconsulter la doc de Duplicity (outil CLI de sauvegarde lo

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-28 Thread didier gaumet
Le 21/07/2023 à 01:26, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : [...] Pour l'avenir, existe-t-il une solution pour sauvegarder simplement et automatiquement tous les e-mails échangés d'une messagerie gratuite (yahoo, orange, ...) avec des clients configurés en IMAP ? [...] En supplément des outils IMAP

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread didier gaumet
les menus [...] Si c’est en IMAP, alors il me semble que le client suit ce que dit le serveur. Mais peut-être Thunderbird ou autre permet-il de ne pas altérer la copie locale ? (ajouter, ne pas supprimer/déplacer Ce que fait Frederic est un archivage au sens de Thunderbird: un déplacement depuis

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread Francis BOUGELOT
l une copie des messages reçus. > Mais pour avoir une copie des messages envoyés, il faut sans doute > que je me mette en Cci dans tous mes messages envoyés (classés en > messages reçus spéciaux ?… ou à réinjecter en messages envoyés ?…) > > Si c’est en IMAP, alors il me semble qu

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread RogerT
?… ou à réinjecter en messages envoyés ?…) Si c’est en IMAP, alors il me semble que le client suit ce que dit le serveur. Mais peut-être Thunderbird ou autre permet-il de ne pas altérer la copie locale ? (ajouter, ne pas supprimer/déplacer) Et alors, ce client peut-il gérer plusieurs versions

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread Frederic Zulian
ssagerie ? > > Enfin, à tous : > connaissez-vous des moyens d’accéder aux journaux de la messagerie > gratuite yahoo/orange/etc. ? (Qui s’est connecté ? Quand ? Quels > suppressions/déplacements sont survenus ?) > > Merci > > Le 21 juil. 2023 à 11:29, Frederic Zul

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread RogerT
, à tous : connaissez-vous des moyens d’accéder aux journaux de la messagerie gratuite yahoo/orange/etc. ? (Qui s’est connecté ? Quand ? Quels suppressions/déplacements sont survenus ?) Merci > Le 21 juil. 2023 à 11:29, Frederic Zulian a écrit : > >  > J'utilise thund

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread Frederic Zulian
J'utilise thunderbird (imap) + spamassassin+ archivage 1 x mois. Il me copie le contenu de 5 boîtes mails. Frédéric ZULIAN Le ven. 21 juil. 2023 à 11:24, didier gaumet a écrit : > Le 21/07/2023 à 09:53, Sébastien NOBILI a écrit : > > Bonjour, > > > > Le 2023-07-21 01:26,

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread didier gaumet
configurés en IMAP ? Tout dépend de ce que tu entends par "simplement" :D J'utilise offlineimap [1]. Configuration à faire dans un fichier texte, enregistrement en crontab. Il enregistre les messages au format maildir, ça permet de faire des sauvegardes/synchronisations efficaces. Sébastien

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread Sébastien NOBILI
Bonjour, Le 2023-07-21 01:26, roger.tar...@free.fr a écrit : Pour l'avenir, existe-t-il une solution pour sauvegarder simplement et automatiquement tous les e-mails échangés d'une messagerie gratuite (yahoo, orange, ...) avec des clients configurés en IMAP ? Tout dépend de ce que tu entends

Re: Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-21 Thread Michel Verdier
Le 21 juillet 2023 roger tarani a écrit : > Pour l'avenir, existe-t-il une solution pour sauvegarder simplement et > automatiquement tous les e-mails échangés d'une messagerie gratuite (yahoo, > orange, ...) avec des clients configurés en IMAP ? > Je pensais à un client comm

Messagerie (accédée en IMAP) vidée sans cause identifiée

2023-07-20 Thread roger . tarani
Bonjour, Je tremblais que ça ne m'arrive pas. Ça vient d'arriver à deux personnes qui ont leur messagerie chez yahoo.com et orange.fr : L'un a divers messages reçus et envoyés supprimés. L'autre n'a plus aucun messages envoyés ! La messagerie est utilisée en webmail ou en IMAP depuis un

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-05-04 Thread 황병희
2023-04-26 (수), 15:19 +0200, Loris Bennett: > Lionel Élie Mamane writes: > > > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > > > > > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server > > > side IMAP search, please ? > >

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread rhkramer
Oh, I meant to add that compacting is typically useful when record (email?) storage is in something like an mbox file -- it saves the need to rewrite the file each time a single file is deleted (for example). On the other hand, with storage in something like mdirr files (right name -- one

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread rhkramer
On Sunday, April 30, 2023 06:24:14 PM Default User wrote: > > What is 'compacting', what is it meant to do? The definition of compacting as I "grew up" with it (not sure where I first encountered it is the idea that in some applications, the act of "deleting" something doesn't actually delete

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread tomas
On Mon, May 01, 2023 at 07:38:45AM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 18:24 -0400, Default User wrote: > > It does occur to me that Evolution may use the maildir format rather > > than the mbox format [...] > I thought we were talking about IMAP protocol access to Googl

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-05-01 Thread Tixy
ses the maildir format, compacting apparently does not > apply, which would seem to explain it.  I have not yet determined > whether Evolution uses mbox or maildir.  I thought we were talking about IMAP protocol access to Google? In which case Evolution isn't storing email in any forma

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Max Nikulin
reason. This support page discusses behavior for local folders. This thread is dedicated to specific of Gmail and Evolution interaction in respect to IMAP protocols. I mentioned compacting of folders in Thnderbird because earlier I have seen that performing "Compact" in Thunderbir

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Default User
On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 20:47 +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 06:26:53PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > > On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 11:19 -0400, Default User wrote: > > > (BTW, if anyone does have information about compacting folders in > > > Evolution, I would love to hear about it!) > >

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
> According to this: > https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compacting-folders This basically explains that compacting is an operation that should fundamentally be transparent to the user, and that Thunderbird makes the user aware of it for ... no good reason. Thunderbird will compact things for

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Default User
s like > 'compressing' > to me, don't know if protocols like IMAP has a way to ask the server > to > compress it's folders. (I would have though how emails are actually > stored would be an internal implementation detail of the server). > > If it just means really deleting em

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread tomas
On Sun, Apr 30, 2023 at 06:26:53PM +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 11:19 -0400, Default User wrote: > > (BTW, if anyone does have information about compacting folders in > > Evolution, I would love to hear about it!) > > What is 'compacting', what is it meant to do? [...] > If it just

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Tixy
On Sun, 2023-04-30 at 11:19 -0400, Default User wrote: > (BTW, if anyone does have information about compacting folders in > Evolution, I would love to hear about it!) What is 'compacting', what is it meant to do? Sounds like 'compressing' to me, don't know if protocols like IMAP has a way

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail, email compacting)

2023-04-30 Thread Default User
On Sat, 2023-04-29 at 00:01 +0700, Max Nikulin wrote: > For those who missed start of the thread: it is dedicated to IMAP > access > to Gmail and Evolution behavior. > > On 27/04/2023 23:15, Default User wrote: > > It stays in both folders, with > > only the one

Re: Evolution email (problem?) (IMAP, Gmail)

2023-04-28 Thread Max Nikulin
For those who missed start of the thread: it is dedicated to IMAP access to Gmail and Evolution behavior. On 27/04/2023 23:15, Default User wrote: It stays in both folders, with only the one in "All Mail" having a line through it, showing that is marked for deletion, but is n

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-26 Thread Loris Bennett
Lionel Élie Mamane writes: > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > >> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server >> side IMAP search, please ? > > mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts with > &q

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-26 Thread Lionel Élie Mamane
On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 05:01:53PM +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server > side IMAP search, please ? mutt makes a server-side search when the search operator starts with "=" instead of "~"; this also means

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-17 Thread André Rodier
ier writes: > >> On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server >>> side IMAP search, please ? >>> >>> I have an email server that sup

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-16 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
Andre Rodier writes: > On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server >> side IMAP search, please ? >> >> I have an email server that support indexing attachment c

Re: Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-16 Thread Andre Rodier
On Sun, 2023-04-16 at 17:01 +0100, Andre Rodier wrote: > Hi, > > Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server side IMAP > search, please ? > > I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents, and when I > run a query from the command

Email clients and IMAP search support

2023-04-16 Thread Andre Rodier
Hi, Is there any desktop email client on Debian, that supports server side IMAP search, please ? I have an email server that support indexing attachment contents, and when I run a query from the command line using doveadm search or even TELNET, it is returning the correct email indexes

Re: Minimalistic IMAP web client...

2022-03-02 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 10:44:33PM +0100, nimrod wrote: > In the meantime I made Squirrelmail to work, but it has the same UI I > saw many many years ago. This is very good for me, since I'm looking > for a minimalistic approach, but it's really too minimalistic for my > users. RainLoop and

Re: Minimalistic IMAP web client...

2022-03-02 Thread nimrod
On mer, 2022-03-02 at 16:23 -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: > > It seems very simple, but I didn't find anything just like that. > > Roundcube, for instance, seems a good choice, but installing it on > > Debian forces me to configure a database for the users, which I > > really > > don't need and don't

Re: Minimalistic IMAP web client...

2022-03-02 Thread Dan Ritter
> It seems very simple, but I didn't find anything just like that. > Roundcube, for instance, seems a good choice, but installing it on > Debian forces me to configure a database for the users, which I really > don't need and don't even want to use. Squirrelmail is another good > choice, I thought

Re: Minimalistic IMAP web client...

2022-03-02 Thread Dan Ritter
nimrod wrote: > Hi, > > I set up Dovecot as an IMAP server just for local users on a server: so > no database, no LDAP, just local users with Maildir in their own home > directory. > > SMTP in this scenario is unrelevant, because my users just have to > access archived e

Minimalistic IMAP web client...

2022-03-02 Thread nimrod
Hi, I set up Dovecot as an IMAP server just for local users on a server: so no database, no LDAP, just local users with Maildir in their own home directory. SMTP in this scenario is unrelevant, because my users just have to access archived email. The server doesn't send nor receive mail. Don't

Re: Hundres of dovecot imap errors with fts_solr plugin polluting /var/log/mail.err

2021-09-17 Thread Steve Dondley
I think this is some kind of parsing bug from the response from solr. The number of pairs of errors returned is the same number of hits received during the search. So if I do a search with 7 results turned up, I get 7 pairs of errors. Fixed with the following: 1) simplified config file by

Re: Hundres of dovecot imap errors with fts_solr plugin polluting /var/log/mail.err

2021-09-17 Thread Steve Dondley
The bug I patched also threw a similar kind of error. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=970692. But this error is cropping up for every user on the system. A google search turns up nothing on a uid other than '0'. I don't know if this is another debian issue or a

Hundres of dovecot imap errors with fts_solr plugin polluting /var/log/mail.err

2021-09-17 Thread Steve Dondley
hundreds of these pairs of errors every minute in mail.err: Sep 17 04:47:52 email dovecot: imap(s)<8699><1eOe/CzMbOl/AAAB>: Error: fts_solr: received invalid uid '102 Sep 17 04:47:52 email dovecot: imap: Error: ' Sep 17 04:47:52 email dovecot: imap(s)<8699><1eO

Re: [testing] pb récupération email en imap avec Evolution

2020-04-10 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
20 à 00:58 +0100, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : > > > Bonjour, > > > > > > Depuis quelques jours Evolution a beaucoup de mal à récupérer les mails > > > sur > > > mes > > > comptes (en imap). A force de le fermer et de le relancer ça finit pa

Re: [testing] pb récupération email en imap avec Evolution

2020-04-10 Thread Christian Quentin
n a beaucoup de mal à récupérer les mails sur > > mes > > comptes (en imap). A force de le fermer et de le relancer ça finit par > > fonctionner mais c'est pénible. > > Je ne sais pas si c'est lié à la transition en cours vers Gnome 3.36 ou si > > c'est autre chose ? &g

Re: [testing] pb récupération email en imap avec Evolution

2020-04-10 Thread Gaëtan Perrier
Le mercredi 25 mars 2020 à 00:58 +0100, Gaëtan Perrier a écrit : > Bonjour, > > Depuis quelques jours Evolution a beaucoup de mal à récupérer les mails sur > mes > comptes (en imap). A force de le fermer et de le relancer ça finit par > fonctionner mais c'est pénible. > Je

Re: kmail not reading imap folders

2020-04-06 Thread Christopher Judd
. -Chris On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 1:22 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > On Wednesday 01 April 2020 00:39:56 elvis wrote: > > > On 31/3/20 8:16 am, Christopher Judd wrote: > > > Hi, all, > > > > > > I have an email account (through pangia.biz <http://pangia.biz>). >

Re: kmail not reading imap folders

2020-03-31 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 01 April 2020 00:39:56 elvis wrote: > On 31/3/20 8:16 am, Christopher Judd wrote: > > Hi, all, > > > > I have an email account (through pangia.biz <http://pangia.biz>). > > When I try to set it up as an IMAP account using kmail, all of the > >

Re: kmail not reading imap folders

2020-03-31 Thread elvis
On 31/3/20 8:16 am, Christopher Judd wrote: Hi, all, I have an email account (through pangia.biz <http://pangia.biz>). When I try to set it up as an IMAP account using kmail, all of the folders show, but the emails only show in a couple of them.  In particular, the emails in the in

kmail not reading imap folders

2020-03-30 Thread Christopher Judd
Hi, all, I have an email account (through pangia.biz). When I try to set it up as an IMAP account using kmail, all of the folders show, but the emails only show in a couple of them. In particular, the emails in the inbox do not show up. After some google searching, I've tried restarting

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