Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-07 Thread Chris Green
breaks things. I installed it when > > I was still running xubuntu 24.04 and that OS could see the drive OK. > > I actually copied the whole of my old (xubuntu) installation across > > onto that drive. > > So you copied the entire system, with an ESP, onto sda, and then > t

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-06 Thread David Wright
ing xubuntu 24.04 and that OS could see the drive OK. > I actually copied the whole of my old (xubuntu) installation across > onto that drive. So you copied the entire system, with an ESP, onto sda, and then tried to install Debian onto nvme0n1, but always unsuccessfully with UEFI, and apparentl

The Debian 12 failed installation saga - conclusion

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
Firstly, thank you everyone who tried to help, it was much appreciated, even if it maybe didn't sound like it (I was getting a bit frustrated). As I reported, removing the second disk drive (a 2TB SATA SSD), allowed me to to the install with no problems at all. I had installed the drive when the s

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Mon, Nov 4, 2024 at 12:17 PM Chris Green wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 08:31:41AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > [...] > > Is a BIOS update available? > > > Possibly, but I bet I'd need an MS-Windows system to do the update. This situation sucks. My father has an Acer laptop like it -- the

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
y old (xubuntu) installation across onto that drive. I will try putting it back later to see if it breaks the Debian 12 installtion but for the moment I'm just relieved I've got it working at last! Thanks for all the help everyone. I'll try and investigate why the drive broke thin

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
y old (xubuntu) installation across onto that drive. I will try putting it back later to see if it breaks the Debian 12 installtion but for the moment I'm just relieved I've got it working at last! -- Chris Green

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, Chris Green wrote: > > (proc) (memdisk) (lvm/q957--vg-swap_1) (lvm/q957--vg-root) (hd0) > > (hd0,apple2) (hd0,apple1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) > > (hd2,msdos5) (hd2,msdos1) David Wright wrote: > So hd0 is the USB stick. Looks like that. Apple Partition Map is not much in use on a

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 15:27 (UTC): > (proc) (memdisk) (lvm/q957--vg-swap_1) (lvm/q957--vg-root) (hd0) > (hd0,apple2) (hd0,apple1) (hd0,msdos2) (hd1) (hd1,gpt1) (hd2) > (hd2,msdos5) (hd2,msdos1) On all my GPT disks, the required ESP filesystem is on (hd0,gpt1). Presumably your ESP

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 11:19:50AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > If I boot from the USB stick (isohybrid image) in Legacy mode then it > > all **appears** to work, installation completes, but then the system > > won't boot. > > What kind of boot loader did you i

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread David Wright
ntinues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > > > > today. > > > > > > > > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > > > > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB >

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> If I boot from the USB stick (isohybrid image) in Legacy mode then it > all **appears** to work, installation completes, but then the system > won't boot. What kind of boot loader did you install? `grub-efi`, `grub-pc`, something else? Does your Debian install's boot fail

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread David Wright
> today. > > > > > > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > > > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB > > > stick in UEFI mode it just takes me to the grub prompt. > > > > It may help

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 09:09:31AM -0600, David Wright wrote: > On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 12:36:18 (+), Chris Green wrote: > > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > > today. > > > > I can't get the USB Installation stic

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread David Wright
On Mon 04 Nov 2024 at 12:36:18 (+), Chris Green wrote: > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > today. > > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boo

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 08:53:02AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > > I suspect that this is why, when I boot from the USB stick in BIOS > > compatibility mode the resulting installation doesn't work. > > Last time I did an install on a UEFI machine (most of my machines ar

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
On Mon, Nov 04, 2024 at 08:31:41AM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 12:36 (UTC): > > > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > > today. > > > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I suspect that this is why, when I boot from the USB stick in BIOS > compatibility mode the resulting installation doesn't work. Last time I did an install on a UEFI machine (most of my machines are too old, and of the two that aren't, one is running Coreboot 🙂), I found

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 12:36 (UTC): > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > today. > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB &

Re: Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Felix Miata
Chris Green composed on 2024-11-04 12:36 (UTC): > This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier > today. > I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian > installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB &

Debian 12 installation - installation USB stick boots to grub prompt

2024-11-04 Thread Chris Green
This continues from my "Failed Debian 12 install..." thread earlier today. I can't get the USB Installation stick to boot into the Debian installation process when I load it in UEFI mode. If I boot the USB stick in UEFI mode it just takes me to the grub prompt. I suspect that th

Re: Installation on second hand Dell Latitude 5420

2024-10-31 Thread Bret Busby
On 31/10/24 16:32, Angus Mackenzie wrote: I purchased a 2021 Dell Latitude 5420 i7 with 16GB from a refurbisher. It runs Windows 10 Pro well as far as I can see, but I want to install Debian since I've preferred it for nearly 20 years. There is a BIOS admin password set, so I cannot change the b

Re: Installation on second hand Dell Latitude 5420

2024-10-31 Thread Michael Kjörling
As long as you don't use a custom kernel, moving a Debian installation from one system to another should be relatively unproblematic. You may need to do some manual tweaking with regards to which firmware gets loaded on boot to get full hardware functionality. Alternatively, if you simpl

Installation on second hand Dell Latitude 5420

2024-10-31 Thread Angus Mackenzie
I purchased a 2021 Dell Latitude 5420 i7 with 16GB from a refurbisher. It runs Windows 10 Pro well as far as I can see, but I want to install Debian since I've preferred it for nearly 20 years. There is a BIOS admin password set, so I cannot change the boot device and install from a USB stick.

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-27 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Oct 2024 at 11:45:18 (-0400), eben@¹ wrote: > On 10/25/24 07:35, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 09:33:24 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > I was assuming someone setting up a server of some kind would not be > > > running a DHCP client, which of course can be done with a reservati

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Timothy M Butterworth
On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 5:20 AM Chris Green wrote: > I have installed Debian 12 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T470. It all went > pretty smoothly but for some reason when I do a GUI login my .profile > doesn't get run. > > If I ssh into the laptop then .profile does get run. > > So what might cause this

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Chris Green
Max Nikulin wrote: > On 26/10/2024 18:08, Chris Green wrote: > > Well on my previous XFCE installation on xubuntu it certainly did run > > ~/.profile. > > LightDM package in Ubuntu contains an additional script that reads > ~/.profile (like SDDM in Debian). Some

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Greg Wooledge
on when I do a GUI login my .profile > > > doesn't get run. > > > > Is starting a GUI session (whether X11/Xorg or Wayland) even > > _supposed_ to execute ~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile)? My > > understanding is that it is not. > > > Well on my previous XF

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Max Nikulin
On 26/10/2024 18:08, Chris Green wrote: Well on my previous XFCE installation on xubuntu it certainly did run ~/.profile. LightDM package in Ubuntu contains an additional script that reads ~/.profile (like SDDM in Debian). Some hints: - <https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariab

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 26 Oct 2024 12:08 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): >> As I understand it, those are meant to be run by a _login shell_. This >> sets them apart from e.g. ~/.bashrc which is read each time _bash_ is >> started. >> > Yes, and entering one's name and password at GUI start-up **is** > loggi

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Chris Green
starting a GUI session (whether X11/Xorg or Wayland) even > _supposed_ to execute ~/.profile (or ~/.bash_profile)? My > understanding is that it is not. > Well on my previous XFCE installation on xubuntu it certainly did run ~/.profile. > As I understand it, those are meant to be ru

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Chris Green
Timothy M Butterworth wrote: > [-- text/plain, size 0.6K, charset UTF-8, 29 lines, encoding quoted-printable > --] > > On Sat, Oct 26, 2024 at 5:20 AM Chris Green wrote: > > > I have installed Debian 12 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T470. It all went > > pretty smoothly but for some reason when I do

Re: New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 26 Oct 2024 10:13 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): > I have installed Debian 12 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T470. It all went > pretty smoothly but for some reason when I do a GUI login my .profile > doesn't get run. Is starting a GUI session (whether X11/Xorg or Wayland) even _supposed_ to

New Debian 12 installation, GUI login doesn't run .profile

2024-10-26 Thread Chris Green
I have installed Debian 12 on my Lenovo Thinkpad T470. It all went pretty smoothly but for some reason when I do a GUI login my .profile doesn't get run. If I ssh into the laptop then .profile does get run. So what might cause this? -- Chris Green ·

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-25 Thread eben
On 10/25/24 07:35, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 09:33:24 +0100, Joe wrote: I was assuming someone setting up a server of some kind would not be running a DHCP client, which of course can be done with a reservation, but it's another potential point of failure that a fixed address

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 09:33:24 +0100, Joe wrote: > I was assuming someone setting up a server of some kind would not be > running a DHCP client, which of course can be done with a reservation, > but it's another potential point of failure that a fixed address > configuration doesn't have. I've s

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-25 Thread tomas
On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 09:36:20AM +0100, Joe wrote: > On Fri, 25 Oct 2024 08:03:43 +0100 > Chris Green wrote: > > > > Yes, OP here again, that's why I said in my original post "(I know > > they're not quite the same thing, but the result works OK)" > > I think (on Ubuntu it did anyway) that sys

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-25 Thread Joe
On Thu, 24 Oct 2024 16:31:18 -0400 Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 21:24:17 +0100, Joe wrote: > > In an installation not using a DHCP client, you would be expected to > > make your own DNS and gateway arrangements along with the IP > > address. > > O

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-25 Thread Chris Green
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [-- text/plain, size 1.2K, charset utf-8, 34 lines, encoding quoted-printable > --] > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 04:31:18PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 21:24:17 +0100, Joe wrote: > > > In an installation not using

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-25 Thread Chris Green
Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 21:24:17 +0100, Joe wrote: > > In an installation not using a DHCP client, you would be expected to > > make your own DNS and gateway arrangements along with the IP address. > > OK. I'm guessing that's not r

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-24 Thread Joe
dly, the actual installation only > took half an hour or so and configuring things not much more. I've > already run a backup from one of my smaller systems and it ran fine. > > On xubuntu I have made a habit of removing systemd-resolved.service > and installing dnsmasq. (I know th

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-24 Thread tomas
On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 04:31:18PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 21:24:17 +0100, Joe wrote: > > In an installation not using a DHCP client, you would be expected to > > make your own DNS and gateway arrangements along with the IP address. > > OK. I&

DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-24 Thread Chris Green
I have just installed Debian Bookworm on my backup server which is a Fujitsu Esprimo Q556 with an 8TB external USB drive for backup. I was previously running xubuntu there. It has all gone very straightforwrdly, the actual installation only took half an hour or so and configuring things not much

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-24 Thread Chris Green
S gets passed to my LAN's DNS server. Is that > > what one gets on a minimal installation, no explicit DNS server or > > resolv management? I'm very happy with this, it's very simple and the > > backup system isn't going to make a lot of DNS queries such that i

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 21:24:17 +0100, Joe wrote: > In an installation not using a DHCP client, you would be expected to > make your own DNS and gateway arrangements along with the IP address. OK. I'm guessing that's not relevant here, though. > If > you're not ru

Re: DNS on minimal new installation

2024-10-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
t; what one gets on a minimal installation, no explicit DNS server or > resolv management? I'm very happy with this, it's very simple and the > backup system isn't going to make a lot of DNS queries such that it > needs a DNS cache. Have I understood this OK? In a typical inst

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread George at Clug
their hardware is supported before installing Debian, and 2) check out how Debian looks to see if they like Debian or not (before an installation). I have not personally used Live media, but I would expect that you can also then choose to go into the installation of Debian to a drive in your

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread Darac Marjal
of OpenWRT, using Ansible. So I am assuming that the OP is looking for somewhere to run Ansible from) While studying, I encountered four different modes of installation for Debian, and I would appreciate it if someone could explain the differences between these modes in detail. Specifically, I

Re: Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread Thomas Schmitt
Hi, deb...@nexgntech.com wrote: > I encountered four different modes of installation for Debian, and I would > appreciate it if someone could explain the differences between these modes > in detail. Specifically, I would like to understand what each mode includes > initially and wha

Request for Clarification on Debian Installation Modes

2024-10-15 Thread debian
Dear All, A few days back, I had the opportunity to dive into the OpenWISP / OpenWRT project, and I learned that it is best supported on Debian. While studying, I encountered four different modes of installation for Debian, and I would appreciate it if someone could explain the differences

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-13 Thread debian-user
Karl Vogel wrote: > Removing the --quiet flag and using something like safesys() would: > > * let systemctl write something (hopefully an error message), > * show exactly what arguments are being passed to it, and > * show its exit value. Your safesys includes basically exactly the code

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Karl Vogel
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 21:43:39 -0400, I mistakenly wrote: > See the ":" followed by two spaces? Unlike systemctl, well-behaved > programs set "errno" when they puke, and that setting is turned into > a more-or-less useful error message like "Permission denied". > "$!" would have held that messag

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread tomas
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 10:23:00PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 21:43:39 -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > > >> In previous messages: > > > > > > system('systemctl', '--quiet', [...] , @start_units) == 0 > > > or die("Could not execute systemctl: $!"); > > > > > > Co

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 21:43:39 -0400, Karl Vogel wrote: > >> In previous messages: > > > > system('systemctl', '--quiet', [...] , @start_units) == 0 > > or die("Could not execute systemctl: $!"); > > > > Could not execute systemctl: at /usr/bin/deb-systemd-invoke line 148. > > S

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Karl Vogel
:10:20 (-0400), Thomas Schmitt wrote: > Well, if perl is not more awkward than i believe anyways, then the > message is emitted if the run of program systemctl fails. The reasons > for such a failure are manifold, from botched installation to lack of > disk space... Exactly right, a

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
; its args. Well, if perl is not more awkward than i believe anyways, then the message is emitted if the run of program systemctl fails. The reasons for such a failure are manifold. From botched installation to lack of disk space ... The message text is obviously somewhat misleading. (I imagine

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread debian-user
the args as you suggest. You > could use "warn" instead of "print STDERR". > > > at > > > > https://sources.debian.org/src/init-system-helpers/1.67/script/deb-systemd-invoke/#L148 > > > > One should make them visible and then re-try th

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread debian-user
"warn" instead of "print STDERR". > at > > https://sources.debian.org/src/init-system-helpers/1.67/script/deb-systemd-invoke/#L148 > > One should make them visible and then re-try the Redis installation > after possibly removing the debris of the nearly compl

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Michael Kjörling
On 12 Oct 2024 11:42 +0200, from s...@jdcassidy.eu (John Cassidy): > trying to install Redis on Debian SID, the install is failing with the > following errors: > > apt install redis /snip/ > Setting up redis-server (5:7.0.15-2) ... > Created symlink '/etc/systemd/system/redis.service' → > '/usr/li

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Thomas Schmitt
temd-invoke/#L148 One should make them visible and then re-try the Redis installation after possibly removing the debris of the nearly completed installation. We'd need a perl programmer to tell the exact command to insert before line 148 to make the systemctl command parameters visible before

Re: Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Sat, Oct 12, 2024 at 11:42:22 +0200, John Cassidy wrote: > Setting up redis-server (5:7.0.15-2) ... > Created symlink '/etc/systemd/system/redis.service' → > '/usr/lib/systemd/system/redis-server.service'. > Created symlink > '/etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/redis-server.service' → >

Redis installation error(s) on Debian SID

2024-10-12 Thread John Cassidy
Hello all, trying to install Redis on Debian SID, the install is failing with the following errors: apt install redis Installing: redis Installing dependencies: libjemalloc2 liblzf1 redis-server redis-tools Suggested packages: ruby-redis Summary: Upgrading: 0, Installing: 5, Re

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-22 Thread David Wright
(-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > > > > > available as a single file. > > > > > > > > > > I need it available when the network is not. > > > > > &

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-22 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/19/2024 09:16 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available as a single file. I need it available when the network is not. IF you have *already* installed Debian, the individual HTML files and compressed copies of the PDF

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-21 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/20/2024 10:57 AM, David Wright wrote: On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" avai

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-20 Thread David Wright
On Fri 20 Sep 2024 at 07:53:28 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > > > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > > > available as

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 09/19/2024 10:04 AM, David Wright wrote: On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available as a single file. I need it available when the network is not. It would be convenient if a copy of

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-19 Thread David Wright
On Thu 19 Sep 2024 at 09:16:25 (-0500), Richard Owlett wrote: > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" > available as a single file. > > I need it available when the network is not. > > It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing

Re: Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-19 Thread DdB
Am 19.09.2024 um 16:16 schrieb Richard Owlett: > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available > as a single file How about doing your homework? > perplexity.ai: > > Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide&

Availability of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" for OFFLINE use

2024-09-19 Thread Richard Owlett
Is the AMD64 version of "Debian GNU/Linux Installation Guide" available as a single file. I need it available when the network is not. It would be convenient if a copy of the menus appearing when installing from DVD1 were available. TIA

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 11:51 AM Nicolas George wrote: > > [...] > > EFI files are signed > > for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be easily adjusted. > > Secure boot is a joke when it comes to security, its only “merit” is to > prevent l

Re: The lack of a future for 32-bit x86 installs (Was Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 03:17:02PM +, Andy Smith wrote: > > Then there is the fact that the LTS team can and does mark packages > as unsupportable for the lifetime of LTS when they need to, so just > because LTS team exists doesn't mean they can get around to > supporting 32-bit x86 installer/

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Nicolas George
Max Nikulin (12024-08-20): > Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but > not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions. This is not true. The only problem you will have with this setup is that you will need to install and/or configure the bootloader manua

Re: UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Erwan David
respect to boot configuration). Actually GRUB menu to load system > from alternative partition is more convenient than firmware boot menu in my > case. Here is the tree on my laptop, I think the "ubuntu part" comes from a former Mint installation (Debian is tthe only OS on the compute

UEFI multiboot (was: Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Max Nikulin
On 20/08/2024 11:27, David Christensen wrote: AIUI UEFI/GPT were designed to support multi-boot Single EFI System Partition may contain loaders from different vendors, but not 2 Debian systems installed on different partitions. EFI files are signed for Secure Boot, so vendor paths can not be

The lack of a future for 32-bit x86 installs (Was Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ])

2024-08-20 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Tue, Aug 20, 2024 at 03:44:03AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 08/19/2024 02:51 PM, Andy Smith wrote: > > [32-bit x86] as previously mentioned has a single digit of years > > of remaining lifetime in Debian. > > I don't see anything on https://wiki.debian.org/LTS that implies shorter

Re: Trixie and i386 - was [Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]]

2024-08-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 20 Aug 2024 07:34:33 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > > 5.1.13. Baseline for 32-bit PC is now i686¶ > > > > Debian's support for 32-bit PC (known as the Debian architecture > > i386) now no longer covers any i586 processor. The new minimum > > requirement is i686. This means that the i386 a

Trixie and i386 - was [Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]]

2024-08-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/20/2024 05:45 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 08/20/2024 04:30 AM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: [snip] There will be non i386 installer medium for Trixie when released though i386 will be retained as a release architecture. Can you point me to the details. I have two i386 I wish to use as long

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-20 Thread Richard Owlett
;} Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]: 1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage 2. 64 bit Debian with maximum features 3. 32 bit Debian - couple of applications require a 32 bit OS All 32-bit x86 software runs on a

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-20 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
;from scratch" install since Squeeze ;} > > > Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). > > > I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]: > > >1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage > > >2. 64 bit Debian with maximum features

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-20 Thread Richard Owlett
rdware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]: 1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage 2. 64 bit Debian with maximum features 3. 32 bit Debian - couple of applications require a 32 bit OS All 32-bit x86 software runs on a 64-bit k

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-20 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/19/2024 11:27 PM, David Christensen wrote: On 8/19/24 04:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;} Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]:    1. minimalist installat

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-20 Thread Richard Owlett
at least three options]:   1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage   2. 64 bit Debian with maximum features   3. 32 bit Debian - couple of applications require a 32 bit OS   4. other installs with strong project dependencies Today's question At boot time, what deter

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread David Christensen
On 8/19/24 04:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;} Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]:   1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage   2. 64

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread David Wright
three options]: > >   1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage > >   2. 64 bit Debian with maximum features > >   3. 32 bit Debian - couple of applications require a 32 bit OS > >   4. other installs with strong project dependencies > > > > Tod

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread Tom Dial
On 8/19/24 05:19, Richard Owlett wrote: I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;} Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]:   1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage   2. 64

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread Andy Smith
> I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]: > 1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage > 2. 64 bit Debian with maximum features > 3. 32 bit Debian - couple of applications require a 32 bit OS All 32-bit x86 software runs on a 64-bit kernel no pr

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread Richard Owlett
On 08/19/2024 10:57 AM, Joe wrote: On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 08:44:39 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: THANK YOU On 08/19/2024 07:02 AM, David wrote: On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 11:19, Richard Owlett wrote: At boot time, what determines which physical partition gets mounted as a specific directory ( /, /h

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread Joe
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 08:44:39 -0500 Richard Owlett wrote: > THANK YOU > > On 08/19/2024 07:02 AM, David wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 11:19, Richard Owlett > > wrote: > >> At boot time, what determines which physical partition gets > >> mounted as a specific directory ( /, /home, swap, and

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread Richard Owlett
THANK YOU On 08/19/2024 07:02 AM, David wrote: On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 11:19, Richard Owlett wrote: At boot time, what determines which physical partition gets mounted as a specific directory ( /, /home, swap, and so forth )? Please reference documentation as reading it will remind me of how

Re: Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread David
On Mon, 19 Aug 2024 at 11:19, Richard Owlett wrote: > At boot time, what determines which physical partition gets mounted as a > specific directory ( /, /home, swap, and so forth )? > > Please reference documentation as reading it will remind me of how and > why I chose specific options. man 5 f

Default partition mounts [ "Installation Guide" lacks index ]

2024-08-19 Thread Richard Owlett
I'm over 80 and doing first "from scratch" install since Squeeze ;} Hardware is Lenovo R61 ThinkPad (64 bit). I multi boot [Grub will have at least three options]: 1. minimalist installation - primarily command line usage 2. 64 bit Debian with maximum features 3. 32 bit Deb

Re: Network-manager issue after installation, was: Re: your mail

2024-07-30 Thread Dan Ritter
Franco Martelli wrote: > On 30/07/24 at 17:29, Tawsif wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 01:08:39PM +0600, Tawsif wrote: > > I have a very small storage size for my laptop (64gb). So, I installed > > debian minimal in it. > > If you can, reinstalls Debian as usual,

Network-manager issue after installation, was: Re: your mail

2024-07-30 Thread Franco Martelli
On 30/07/24 at 17:29, Tawsif wrote: On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 01:08:39PM +0600, Tawsif wrote: I have a very small storage size for my laptop (64gb). So, I installed debian minimal in it. If you can, reinstalls Debian as usual, my KDE's installation takes about 10GB: ~$ LC_ALL=C.UTF

No Desktop after installation was: info

2024-07-22 Thread Franco Martelli
On 22/07/24 at 08:07, Francesco Di Lorenzo wrote: good morning, i installed debain 12 from your site, and using the usb , I did the installation, but I don't know why I don't get the desktop enviments , it is only text. what I can do? thanks Maybe X fails to start, what it happ

Re: installation

2024-06-28 Thread David Christensen
On 6/28/24 10:20, dewey rahn wrote: When I used to use Debian when a new release came out (like from 10 to 11) you had to completely reinstall the operation system. Is that the case now? I have invested myself in backup, recovery, and version control/ configuration management. So, a major v

Re: installation

2024-06-28 Thread tomas
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 01:40:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 19:20:54 +0200, dewey rahn wrote: > > When I used to use Debian when a new release came out (like from 10 to 11) > > you had to completely reinstall the operation system. Is that the case now? > > That has *n

Re: installation

2024-06-28 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Fri, Jun 28, 2024 at 19:20:54 +0200, dewey rahn wrote: > When I used to use Debian when a new release came out (like from 10 to 11) > you had to completely reinstall the operation system. Is that the case now? That has *never* been the case. Debian has always supported in-place upgrades betwe

installation

2024-06-28 Thread dewey rahn
When I used to use Debian when a new release came out (like from 10 to 11) you had to completely reinstall the operation system. Is that the case now?

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread David Christensen
ran the 512 check sum on a copy of Debian-12.5.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso and ran the Graphical Install mode on the 1.0 TD SSD on my Computer. The installation went smoothly without any warning or error messages. I logged in as root to set up the Desktop and, much to my surprise, found that my previous

Re: Strange New Installation Behavior

2024-04-22 Thread Stephen P. Molnar
phical Install mode on the 1.0 TD SSD on my Computer. The installation went smoothly without any warning or error messages. I logged in as root to set up the Desktop and, much to my surprise, found that my previous Desktop configuration was still there!!??? This was also the case when I logged i

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