[PARTAL success] Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/17/2015 6:08 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" and "Whys". Essentially nothing on "Why

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/21/2015 4:40 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Saturday 21 November 2015 12:13:37 Richard Owlett wrote: My analogy would be "When planning a trip thru NYC, via Grand Central and Penn Station, are you really interested in number of steps between levels of intervening subway stations?" Very much

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Sat, 2015-11-21 at 12:55 -0600, Joel Rees wrote: > That's the common way of explaining fstab, and it is, indeed, the way > I should have explained it if I were going to bother explaining it > where slaves to convention congregate. I agree with your points, but it's rude to sneer.

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: > Joel Rees a écrit : >> >> Thinking in terms of partitions as the things you mount in /etc/fstab. > > Err, no. Sometimes you think of things in ways that don't match the common convention. Sometimes those ways of

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Saturday 21 November 2015 12:13:37 Richard Owlett wrote: > My analogy would be "When planning a trip thru NYC, via Grand > Central and Penn Station, are you really interested in number of > steps between levels of intervening subway stations?" Very much so. I spend much time sorting out just

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Sat 21 Nov 2015 at 06:13:37 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > My analogy would be "When planning a trip thru NYC, via Grand Central and > Penn Station, are you really interested in number of steps between levels of > intervening subway stations?" You are at liberty to answer your own question.

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Joel Rees a écrit : > > Thinking in terms of partitions as the things you mount in /etc/fstab. Err, no. The things you mount in /etc/fstab are filesystems, not partitions. A filesystem may not even lie in a partition or volume (think about tmpfs, nfs...).

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/19/2015 6:46 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 11/18/2015 4:07 AM, Joel Rees wrote: 2015/11/18 9:09 "Richard Owlett": In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space.[snip]

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

Hello, El 18 de noviembre de 2015 1:08:49 CET, Richard Owlett escribió: >In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for >ease of adjusting space. > >When searching for more information all I'm finding are >essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/20/2015 4:28 PM, Joel Rees wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: [snip] http://linuxconfig.org/linux-lvm-logical-volume-manager And that might be the sort of overview the OP was looking for, even though it looks more liike

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/21/2015 2:06 AM, Javi Barroso wrote: Hello, El 18 de noviembre de 2015 1:08:49 CET, Richard Owlett escribió: In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. When searching for more information all I'm finding are

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 4:47 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:46:34AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: >> LVM is much more flexible and less prone to do things to your data >> than, say, the tools that re-size your partitions the hard way. Thinking in

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

Joel Rees a écrit : > > I think I have heard of people booting straight out of LVM partitions, > but that takes more gum tape than I like to use. I do believe grub is > able to look into LVM partitions somewhat these days, Indeed. And Linux software RAID. > so you may want > to play with having

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On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > [...] > >> No information on dual boot. > > If with not Linux, it won't work. That's news to me. I've mulit-booted openBSD, Fedora in a non-VM LVM, debian, SUSE, and a previous version of the OSS fork of Solaris. Not

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 11/18/2015 4:07 AM, Joel Rees wrote: >> >> 2015/11/18 9:09 "Richard Owlett": >>> >>> >>> In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease >>> of adjusting space. >> >> >> Yeah. I'm not using it

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

In article Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > > [...] > > > >> No information on dual boot. > > > > If with not Linux, it won't work. > That's news to me. > I've mulit-booted

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/18/2015 9:58 AM, Darac Marjal wrote: On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:49PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Martin Str|mberg wrote: > In article Joel Rees > wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 2:42 PM, Martin Str|mberg wrote: >> > [...] >> > >> >> No information on dual boot. >>

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On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 09:46:34AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote: > LVM is much more flexible and less prone to do things to your data > than, say, the tools that re-size your partitions the hard way. You do > still have to exercise common sense, however. > > I've lost a re-sized partition permanently

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

)543-8880 x107 | or (435)867-8885 | --| On Tuesday 2015-11-17 17:08, Richard Owlett wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 17:08:49 From: Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: LVM info - OTHER than HOWT

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:49PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" and "Whys".

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 06:08:49PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease > of adjusting space. > > When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially > HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" and "Whys". >

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d...@randomstring.org wrote: > >Here's why not: > >LVM is a kludge. Not at all, no. LVM *as a concept* has been around for ages in a lot of enterprise systems. The Linux implementation using device-mapper works reasonably well and provides a lot of features that people use a lot. >That doesn't

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

2015-11-17 17:08, Richard Owlett wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 17:08:49 From: Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space

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On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 01:29:01PM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: LVM is a kludge. Not at all. LVM can increase the size of partitions by giving them more space on either an empty section of disk or another disk. Either way, you Yes. then need to increase the filesystem size on that partition,

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nd email. Debian machines *PHYSICALLY ISOLATED* from internet "for cause" ;/ [ don't ask ;] On Tuesday 2015-11-17 17:08, Richard Owlett wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 17:08:49 From: Richard Owlett <rowl...@cloud85.net> To: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org> Subject:

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/18/2015 4:07 AM, Joel Rees wrote: 2015/11/18 9:09 "Richard Owlett": In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. Yeah. I'm not using it now, but it did come in handy when I was still getting a feeling for partitioning. I've a machine set

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

Richard Owlett a écrit : > In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for > ease of adjusting space. > > When searching for more information all I'm finding are > essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" > and "Whys". Essentially nothing on "Why not". >

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 11/18/2015 2:03 AM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Richard Owlett a écrit : In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" and "Whys".

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

2015/11/18 9:09 "Richard Owlett" : > > In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. Yeah. I'm not using it now, but it did come in handy when I was still getting a feeling for partitioning. > When searching for more information all

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

On 19/11/2015 6:14 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Windows XP runs on a dedicated machine whose functions are browsing and > email. XP -- that's dead now; lots of security issues that will never get fixed. Do you really need Windows now? What is it that XP does for you that you can't do with

Re: LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

In article Richard Owlett wrote: > When searching for more information all I'm finding are > essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" > and "Whys". Essentially nothing on "Why not". One good use is when you're

LVM info - OTHER than HOWTO's

In some of my reading I came across a page recommending LVM for ease of adjusting space. When searching for more information all I'm finding are essentially HOWTO's with only a couple of paragraphs on "Whats" and "Whys". Essentially nothing on "Why not". No information on dual boot.