Michelle Konzack wrote:
> And why do Debian need three similar programs which do the same thing?
> But unfortiunatly it is... since those which want to be individual and
> use only fvwm are cuted to older apps which are "not more supported"
> and deprecated since GNOME and KDE exist!
Hi John,
Am 2006-10-24 12:05:29, schrieb John C:
> You're absolutely correct. The xterm should be "IN MY FACE" every
> time I log on. (it does on my box) Unfortunately the linux
> community is sliding down the "commercially" driven "one desktop
> fits all" slope, so that once all the desktops
Jameson C. Burt wrote:
THANK YOU -- nautilus-open-terminal does just what I would hope for.
--Jim Burt
Anytime. :-)
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 11:44:14AM -0400, José Alburquerque wrote:
If you install the 'nautilus-open-terminal' package, you can open up a
terminal on demand right off
On Tue, Oct 24, 2006 at 12:05:29PM -0500, John C wrote:
} [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
} >We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
} >So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
} >interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
} >and not even any immediate panel
> > THE XTERM (or its equivalent) SHOULD BE
IN MY FACE
> > THE VERY FIRST TIME I LOGIN,
> > requiring at most a single obvious mouse click.
>
> Why are you screaming?
>
> The correct thing to do, I believe, is to file a wishlist bug against
> debian-installer.
Hi,
why don't you just add xterm or
John C wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We in Linux heavily use the command-line. So, I was dismayed when my
new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE) and not
even any immediate panel options for these terminals.
Gnome's "Add to Pane
John C wrote:
One of the greatest features of linux *was* that each individuals
desktop was as different as that individual. The box looked, operated,
and sounded the way that user wanted it too.
Now it seems that individuality is out-of-style and every useful
tool/program that is not part o
On 2006-10-23 09:58:22 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Vincent Lefevre writes:
^^
Bad attribution. I didn't write the following.
> > That said, those types of people likely don't know about the command
> > line. If they do, they are likely frightened by it.
>
> Only if what the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
and not even any immediate panel options for these terminals.
Gnome's "Add to Panel" includes a t
Jameson C. Burt wrote:
I'll also accept your solution to start gnome-terminal
from a command-line using
alt-F2
Luckily, when done once,
Gnome usually saves even that effort, since
Gnome remembers the previous gnome-terminal application between boots.
If you install the 'nautilus-open-t
On Mon, 23 Oct 2006 17:23:58 -0400
"Jameson C. Burt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But you folks have affirmed that this was by design,
> so I'll quit being shrill.
That's a relief :-)
>
> I'll also accept your solution to start gnome-terminal
> from a command-line using
>alt-F2
> Luckily,
On Mon, Oct 23, 2006 at 05:23:58PM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
> I DIDN'T MIND SO MUCH THAT I DIDN'T IMMEDIATELY SEE A GNOME-TERMINAL
> OR A TERMINAL ICON,
> BUT WHEN THE PANEL OPTIONS OFFERED NO GNOME-TERMINAL
> AND GNOME MENUS OFFERED NO TERMINAL AT MENU'S FIRST LEVEL,
> I FELT SOMETHING WAS A
Vincent Lefevre writes:
> That said, those types of people likely don't know about the command
> line. If they do, they are likely frightened by it.
Only if what they know isn't true (the usual case, unfortunately).
--
John Hasler
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On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:26:40AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
>
> > We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
> > So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
> > interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINA
On 2006-10-22 01:31:53 -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
> Well, it is well known that the target audience of GNOME is end user
> newbies or windows transplants. That said, those types of people likely
> don't know about the command line. If they do, they are likely
> frightened by it.
And Apple
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 04:14:03PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:23:09 -0400
> "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 12:14:53PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
> > >
> > > since this seems a nit pick session , I believe to bring up the run
>
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On 10/22/06 19:14, Greg Madden wrote:
> On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:23:09 -0400
> "Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 12:14:53PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
[snip]
> the meubar on
> the top of the screen bin Gnome is
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 12:14:53PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
>
> since this seems a nit pick session , I believe to bring up the run
> dialog box is . Also imho Debian is not for a newbie or even
> less so a windows convert, hence Ubuntu.
>
Good catch on the Alt-F2. I hardly use GNOME, so I tend
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:31:53 -0400
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
> >
> > We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
> > So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
> > interface WITHOUT A
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 17:23:09 -0400
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 12:14:53PM -0800, Greg Madden wrote:
> >
> > since this seems a nit pick session , I believe to bring up the run
> > dialog box is . Also imho Debian is not for a newbie or even
> > less s
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On 10/22/06 08:34, Kevin Mark wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
>> We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
>
> Hi Jameson, this is not entirely true today. Linux is moving
> towards the desktop, so when that f
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
>
> We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
Hi Jameson,
this is not entirely true today. Linux is moving towards the desktop, so
when that fully happends, it will be expected to be fully gui like
MacOS X.
> So, I was dismayed wh
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 01:12:48 -0400
"Jameson C. Burt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
> So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
> interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
> and not even any immediate panel op
On Sun, 22 Oct 2006 02:55:32 -0400
"Roberto C. Sanchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]
> If you are a newbie, you should not have
> terminal popping up in the top level of the menu. If you are a power
> user, you will know where to find it.
>
That sums up the approach of the GNOME project, i
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:48:14AM -0500, Damon L. Chesser wrote:
>
> Not to flame, but "well known that the target audience of GNOME is end
> user newbies or windows transplants"
>
> It is? I mean KDE is more windows like then gnome. I never use the
Yes, it is wel known. But he was griping
Roberto C. Sanchez wrote:
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
and not even any immediate pane
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
> We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
> So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
> interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
> and not even any immediate panel options for these t
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On 10/22/06 00:12, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
> We in Linux heavily use the command-line. So, I was dismayed when
> my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome interface WITHOUT
> ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE) and not even any
> immediate panel
We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
and not even any immediate panel options for these terminals.
Gnome's "Add to Panel" includes a trashcan and a file-manager ju
On Sun, Oct 22, 2006 at 01:12:48AM -0400, Jameson C. Burt wrote:
>
> We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
> So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
> interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
> and not even any immediate panel options for these
We in Linux heavily use the command-line.
So, I was dismayed when my new Debian etch version displayed a Gnome
interface WITHOUT ANY XTERM (or GNOME-TERMINAL or KONSOLE)
and not even any immediate panel options for these terminals.
Gnome's "Add to Panel" includes a trashcan and a file-manager j
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