[OT] developing envelopes [was: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?]

2021-05-15 Thread tomas
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 08:11:49AM +, Curt wrote: [...] > It wasn't near wordplay; it was definitely a *calembour*. Ooooh, a new word: thanks for the gift :) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-15 Thread Curt
On 2021-05-11, wrote: > > That is so near a wordplay that I wonder whether it was > intentional. Envelopers who use developes? > To develop is to free from that which envelops; envelop denotes to enclose or enfold whereas develop means to unfold, make visible. The two terms in their primary

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-12 Thread Curt
On 2021-05-10, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > The Insert->Envelope dialog allows one to properly choose the #10 > envelope and the resulting document looks correct. Then when opening > the Print dialog the formatting becomes stuck on the C5 size. Even > resetting to #10 (or Com-10) results in the

Re: (OT) Jokes, lprng and old cars [was: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?]

2021-05-12 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Difference is, the Benz 1930 guzzled gas like there was no tomorrow and > was slow and uncomfortable. > > Lprng uses up way less resources than CUPS, is easier to set up and > understand, and Just Works. > It is your opinion, I do not want to argue. For me it is as

Re: (OT) Jokes, lprng and old cars [was: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?]

2021-05-11 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 07:19:13PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 06:38:46PM +0200, deloptes wrote: around 1998 you could already print with other tools than lpr or lprng. Until now, I was not aware that an "lpr" system still is in the Debian archive. I am running

Re: (OT) Jokes, lprng and old cars [was: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?]

2021-05-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 06:31:57PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 07:19:13PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > >On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 06:38:46PM +0200, deloptes wrote: > >>around 1998 you could already print with other tools than lpr or lprng. > > Until now, I was not

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:44:03PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:26:01AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > >This must be a tough bug to resolve as this one has been open almost 9 > >years: > > > >https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51132 > > It's probably

(OT) Jokes, lprng and old cars [was: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?]

2021-05-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 06:38:46PM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > around 1998 you could already print with other tools than lpr or lprng. > When I listen to you guys I have a respect, but you must understand that > time goes on - this is like advertising Mercedes Benz from 1930 and telling > me

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 10:10:22AM -0500, David Wright wrote: I still have clean fanfold labels that they jettisoned after lining up the lineprinters all those years ago. Beware David; label adhesives may die with age. Old fanfold labels likely will not adhere, and labels applied five to ten

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:26:01AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: This must be a tough bug to resolve as this one has been open almost 9 years: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51132 It's probably hard to find developers who use envelopes

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread deloptes
David Wright wrote: >> >> And the year is 1998 :D > > You can go back two more decades. I recall writing a stand-alone > program to print a learned society's mailing labels on a Decwriter. > For me it was an exercise, as I had only written OS360/370 assembler > to extend FortranIV until then.

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread Nate Bargmann
This must be a tough bug to resolve as this one has been open almost 9 years: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51132 - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects:

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread David Wright
On Tue 11 May 2021 at 00:17:12 (+0200), deloptes wrote: > Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > I use a dot-matrix printer with tractor feed to print self-adhesive > > address labels.  There is no formatting; just several lines of plain > > text, one address per file.  There is no driver; the printer is

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: >> However lpr ... >> ... Neanderthals get extinct at some point of >> time ;-) > > ...perhaps /because/ they moved from lprng to CUPS ;-(=) there was no compatible interface in production anymore :)

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 09:43:37AM +0200, deloptes wrote: [...] > However lpr ... > ... Neanderthals get extinct at some point of > time ;-) ...perhaps /because/ they moved from lprng to CUPS ;-(=) Cheers - t signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread deloptes
to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > Yeah. Today you would use a client-server architecture, the server > being an npm application running in a Docker container. The client > is based on libelectron (the printer selection dialog has to have > a GUI, after all). Since the stack of dependencies is so, well, >

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread tomas
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 12:17:12AM +0200, deloptes wrote: > Russell L. Harris wrote: > > > I use a dot-matrix printer with tractor feed to print self-adhesive > > address labels.  There is no formatting; just several lines of plain > > text, one address per file.  There is no driver; the printer

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 09:24:48PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2021 10 May 16:05 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: I use a dot-matrix printer with tractor feed to print self-adhesive address labels. There is no formatting; just several lines of plain text, one address per file. There is no

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 10 May 16:05 -0500, Russell L. Harris wrote: > I use a dot-matrix printer with tractor feed to print self-adhesive > address labels. There is no formatting; just several lines of plain > text, one address per file. There is no driver; the printer is > managed by CUPS to receive "raw"

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2021 10 May 15:13 -0500, deloptes wrote: > I use very often the Apaches OpenOffice 4.1.7 (version ATM) to print > envelopes. then as suggested I use the manual tray of the HP 420dn which I > have here to print it. It works OOB. Here is the process > 1. select the page size Menu -> Format ->

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
Interesting tip, Glenn. I've used Impress but not Draw much. While I do have envelopes that I will be printing the same address on a regular basis, it is the one-off jobs that I'd like to use something simpler, I guess, or at least ready made. Sometime the current Writer bug needs to be

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread deloptes
Russell L. Harris wrote: > I use a dot-matrix printer with tractor feed to print self-adhesive > address labels.  There is no formatting; just several lines of plain > text, one address per file.  There is no driver; the printer is > managed by CUPS to receive "raw" data.  I print labels using

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread Russell L. Harris
On Mon, May 10, 2021 at 10:36:57AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: Are there other options? Looking about I don't see any. Even the online Google Docs does not appear to have any support for printing envelopes. I understand most people do things online but there is still a reason to use snail

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread deloptes
Nate Bargmann wrote: > I've successfully used the current version of Libre Office in Testing to > print mailing addresses on a #6 3/4 (US) envelope and so wanted to do > the same with a #10 (US) envelope, and have had nothing but frustration > for almost the past two hours. > > The

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread ghe2001
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Monday, May 10, 2021 9:36 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > Hi All. > > I've successfully used the current version of Libre Office in Testing to > print mailing addresses on a #6 3/4 (US) envelope and so wanted to

Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
Hi All. I've successfully used the current version of Libre Office in Testing to print mailing addresses on a #6 3/4 (US) envelope and so wanted to do the same with a #10 (US) envelope, and have had nothing but frustration for almost the past two hours. The Insert->Envelope dialog allows one to