Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread David Wright
On Tue 25 Apr 2023 at 15:18:21 (+0200), Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:07:07AM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:39:45AM -0700, dmacdoug wrote: > > > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen > > > to use Mutt and s

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread Dan Ritter
hl wrote: > Thanks! how many users are using mail reader without gui? anyway gui is more > friendly for many users. i suppose more users use gui. gui can show mail > body along subject easily. it's waste of time to repeat subject in mail > body. > > it seems impossible to please everyone. That's

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Walton
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 5:36 AM hl wrote: > > > On 4/25/23 15:39, dmacdoug wrote: > > It's not that readers can't see both the message and the subject line at > > the same time, it's more a matter of expectations. > > > > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen >

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 03:18:21PM +0200, Christoph Brinkhaus wrote: > Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:07:07AM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: > > But then the interesting bit happens once you've read that first message. > > When you mark it for deletion, you immediately move to the next message. > > You D

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 13:26:32 +0800 hl wrote: > i've read list archive: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/,  i > still don't know who can read mail body but can't read subject at > same time Exactly so: you don't know "who can read mail body but can't read subject at same time". So you should

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread Christoph Brinkhaus
Am Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 07:07:07AM -0400 schrieb Greg Wooledge: Hello Greg, > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:39:45AM -0700, dmacdoug wrote: > > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen > > to use Mutt and so I see a list of senders, subject lines, etc. Once I > > hi

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread hl
On 4/25/23 18:30, Dan Ritter wrote: We have users who are blind. We have users who are using low-bandwidth connections. We have users who are using tiny-screened devices. We have users using devices with only text capabilities. We have users who like using mutt and other text MUAs. -dsr- .

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 12:39:45AM -0700, dmacdoug wrote: > There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen > to use Mutt and so I see a list of senders, subject lines, etc. Once I > highlight a certain line and hit enter, I see the message, and 99% of the > time I read

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread Dan Ritter
hl wrote: > why not use mail reader with gui, (e.g. Thunderbird)? gui allows you to get > info easily. you don't have to remember lots of things, just a few clicks, > you can get info you need. We have users who are blind. We have users who are using low-bandwidth connections. We have users who

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread hl
On 4/25/23 15:39, dmacdoug wrote: It's not that readers can't see both the message and the subject line at the same time, it's more a matter of expectations. There are a large number of ways to read messages from the list. I happen to use Mutt and so I see a list of senders, subject lines, et

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-25 Thread dmacdoug
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 01:26:32PM +0800, hl wrote: > > ,  i still don't know who can read mail body but can't read subject at same > time > > what do you think if i copy/paste subject to beginning of mail body to > comply with such unwritten rule? > It's not that readers can't see both the mess

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-24 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 01:26:32PM +0800, hl wrote: > > On 4/25/23 12:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: [...] > > But this is exciting, too :-) [...] > i've read list archive: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/,  i still > don't know who can read mail body but can't read subject at same time You

Re: Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-24 Thread hl
On 4/25/23 12:30, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: For some, yes. For others, no. I think this is one of the most difficult (and interesting) things in a huge and diverse mailing list like this: there are people with extremely different ways of living and backgrounds. One has to be humble and, from tim

Putting important stuff exclusively in the subject [was: is it imminent that bookworm becomes stable?]

2023-04-24 Thread tomas
On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 09:27:03AM +0800, hl wrote: > > On 4/25/23 07:39, Greg Wooledge wrote: [...] > > Please do not put important details exclusively in the Subject: header > > of your email [...] > i've thought it's redundant to repeat it in mail body, it's waste of > reader's time For som