Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Hi, Le 11/10/2024, Brad Rogers a écrit: >>if some evil actor gets access to mozilla's >>repository and injects some malware into it. > > A point I missed. Clearly. > > Thanks for highlighting. This is not very convincing. If an evil actor were in a position to do that, they would probably

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 11:56:12 +0100 debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: Hello debian-u...@howorth.org.uk, >if some evil actor gets access to mozilla's >repository and injects some malware into it. A point I missed. Clearly. Thanks for highlighting. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 11 Oct 2024 09:38 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): > I can try and if it all goes pear > shaped I'll just have to go out to the system in the garage with a > screen and keyboard (and mouse). No need for a mouse, even if you use the graphical installer. -- Michael Kjörling

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 11:56:12AM +0100, debian-u...@howorth.org.uk wrote: > Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:37:03 + > > Michael Kjörling wrote: > > > > Hello Michael, > > > > >That sounds like an even better argument for not pinning _everything_ > > >coming from that reposit

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Brad Rogers wrote: > On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:37:03 + > Michael Kjörling wrote: > > Hello Michael, > > >That sounds like an even better argument for not pinning _everything_ > >coming from that repository at priority 1000. > > Maybe, but; > > As an experiment, I added the mozilla repo and

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 2024-10-11, Chris Green wrote: > Yes, I said earlier that I think I need to investigate how to use > backports. GnuCash in particular is a candidate. Sorry I miss the point. To install from backports you have to add it in sources.list deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bookworm-backports main

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > [-- text/plain, size 0.8K, charset utf-8, 24 lines, encoding quoted-printable > --] > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on De

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Henrik Ahlgren wrote: > On Thu, 2024-10-10 at 16:45 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > My main complaint is snap, which I have removed but I suspect it's > > going to become steadily more difficult to run Ubuntu without snap. > > Welcome to Debian, no forced snap nonsense here. > > > My only need for

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 03:41:35PM +0100, Chris Green wrote: > > 2 - Can I easily make a 'server' type installation without a GUI? This > > is for a backup system in my garage which is (usually) headless. Even > > better can I do the installation via ssh? > > > > Wit

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Michel Verdier wrote: > On 2024-10-10, Chris Green wrote: > > > My only need for 'latest' versions tends to be for a very few things > > where keeping different systems in step is important. Some are in > > PPAs (e.g. syncthing) so I get the same version on all my systems that > > way. The othe

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Fri, 11 Oct 2024 07:37:03 + Michael Kjörling wrote: Hello Michael, >That sounds like an even better argument for not pinning _everything_ >coming from that repository at priority 1000. Maybe, but; As an experiment, I added the mozilla repo and updated. Everything from their repos was l

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 2024-10-10, Chris Green wrote: > My only need for 'latest' versions tends to be for a very few things > where keeping different systems in step is important. Some are in > PPAs (e.g. syncthing) so I get the same version on all my systems that > way. The other one I can think of at the moment

Re: Mozilla's apt repository; was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10 Oct 2024 19:53 +0100, from b...@fineby.me.uk (Brad Rogers): >> Though I would adjust that apt pinning configuration slightly to favor >> only firefox and maybe thunderbird packages from their repository, > > AFAICT, the repo you cited has firefox(1) only. That sounds like an even better ar

Re: Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 03:00:06AM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > You might like this one, too. Mozilla just bought an ad company and > cut-in code in Firefox for targeted advertising: "Privacy-Preserving" > Attribution: Mozilla Disappoints Us Yet Again, >

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 18:26:37 + Michael Kjörling wrote: Hello Michael, >Though I would adjust that apt pinning configuration slightly to favor >only firefox and maybe thunderbird packages from their repository, AFAICT, the repo you cited has firefox(1) only. T'Bird direct from mozilla is i

Re: Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Fri, Oct 11, 2024 at 2:07 AM wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 04:55:28PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > [...] > > > Lol... That's been the course for years now. Mozilla almost lost their > > non-profit status because they were making so much money from their > > Google partnership: > >

Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 04:55:28PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote: [...] > Lol... That's been the course for years now. Mozilla almost lost their > non-profit status because they were making so much money from their > Google partnership: >

Why (not?) Mozilla [was: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions]

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 08:52:13PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 10 Oct 2024 20:47 +0200, from to...@tuxteam.de: > >>> ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > >>> getting very fresh versions of certain selected pieces of software, like > >>> Firefox (official Mo

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

Hi Chris, I do not know what programs you run or how up to date you want your system to be which means my answers to your questions might not give you the answer you are looking for. I only run programs that are in Debian's stable collection (I guess I am ultra conservative when it com

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 2:47 PM wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > > > getting very fresh versions of ce

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10 Oct 2024 20:47 +0200, from to...@tuxteam.de: >>> ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of >>> getting very fresh versions of certain selected pieces of software, like >>> Firefox (official Mozilla channel, released without any delay) >> >> These days, Mozilla also

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Friday, 11-10-2024 at 05:47 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > > > getting very fres

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 16:45:05 +0100 Chris Green wrote: > My main complaint is snap, which I have removed but I suspect it's > going to become steadily more difficult to run Ubuntu without snap. snapd and flatpak are available as Debian packages, but are entirely optional. I prefer to avoid them a

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

> 2 - Can I easily make a 'server' type installation without a GUI? This > is for a backup system in my garage which is (usually) headless. Even > better can I do the installation via ssh? Assuming you have enough disk space, you can install into a new LV/partition while the old system is still r

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 06:26:37PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > > ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > > getting very fresh versions of certain selected pieces of software, like > > Firefo

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10 Oct 2024 20:40 +0300, from pa...@seestieto.com (Henrik Ahlgren): > ...however, Flatpak works fine on Debian and is a pretty neat way of > getting very fresh versions of certain selected pieces of software, like > Firefox (official Mozilla channel, released without any delay) These days, Mozi

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, 2024-10-10 at 16:45 +0100, Chris Green wrote: > My main complaint is snap, which I have removed but I suspect it's > going to become steadily more difficult to run Ubuntu without snap. Welcome to Debian, no forced snap nonsense here. > My only need for 'latest' versions tends to be for a

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10/10/24 11:45, Chris Green wrote: On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 09:32:25AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:41:35 +0100 Chris Green wrote: [snip] 3 - Piece of string type question - what versions to install? On the backup system stable is obvious. The other two system

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 09:32:25AM -0600, Charles Curley wrote: > On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:41:35 +0100 > Chris Green wrote: > [snip] > > > > > 3 - Piece of string type question - what versions to install? On the > > backup system stable is obvious. The other two systems are my desktop > > which

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

the command line so I suspect > that I really won't see much difference if/when I move to Debian. > > However I do have a couple of questions:- > > 1 - Is keeping a Debian system up to date just like Ubuntu, i.e. one > just needs to run 'apt update;apt upgrade&#

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 03:11:34PM +, Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 10 Oct 2024 15:41 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): [snip] Lots of really helpful replies, thank you Michael. Yes, maybe stable is the way to go for all my systems, at least initially. -- Chris Green

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On Thu, 10 Oct 2024 15:41:35 +0100 Chris Green wrote: > However I do have a couple of questions:- > > 1 - Is keeping a Debian system up to date just like Ubuntu, i.e. one > just needs to run 'apt update;apt upgrade' at regular intervals? ... > and of course autorem

Re: Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

On 10 Oct 2024 15:41 +0100, from c...@isbd.net (Chris Green): > 1 - Is keeping a Debian system up to date just like Ubuntu, i.e. one > just needs to run 'apt update;apt upgrade' at regular intervals? ... > and of course autoremove and clean as required. Yes. I usually use apt-get update && apt-get

Refugee from [x]ubuntu, a few initial questions

ave a couple of questions:- 1 - Is keeping a Debian system up to date just like Ubuntu, i.e. one just needs to run 'apt update;apt upgrade' at regular intervals? ... and of course autoremove and clean as required. 2 - Can I easily make a 'server' type installation without a GUI

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 30/07/24 at 16:54, 타토카 wrote: "Debian *does* use git snapshots and other pre-releases for some packages, but not for Firefox ESR." - What do you mean? The developers use /Version control systems/ ¹ to develop their software, Debian may take the source code directly from the the developmen

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 19:54:49 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > "Debian *does* use git snapshots and other pre-releases for some packages, > but not for Firefox ESR." - What do you mean? For example, the package xserver-xorg-video-intel in bookworm has version 2:2.99.917+git20210115-1

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

"Debian *does* use git snapshots and other pre-releases for some packages, but not for Firefox ESR." - What do you mean? On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:09 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 14:53:39 +0100, Joe wrote: > > As far as I > > know, Debian doesn't use beta versions of any sof

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 14:53:39 +0100, Joe wrote: > As far as I > know, Debian doesn't use beta versions of any software, even in > unstable, so Firefox itself in unstable is likely to be the same > Firefox downloaded by thousands of people using other distributions, > and is no more likely to fai

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

I have another one question, which is important for me. When using debian sid, how much probably, that problems can remove or move to anywhere some important data from my PC (passwords, photos, notes, etc.). I understand that some unstable packages in debian sid can break the system, but what about

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 20:26:00 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > If I want to use rescue mode for debian via netinst, will my pc have to > have an internet connection? Yea, it is a stupid question, but anyway. No, you do not need an internet connection to boot the netinst image. Not even to install from it (t

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

If I want to use rescue mode for debian via netinst, will my pc have to have an internet connection? Yea, it is a stupid question, but anyway. On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 7:11 PM Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 18:50:48 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > Yes, I think so, that would be a good idea to install

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Yes, I think so, that would be a good idea to install debian sid on VM first. Debian installation image? Do you mean debian netinst? Or debian live's versions? On Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 3:43 PM Joe wrote: > On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:57:48 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > Is it enough to have usb Debian live

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 00:57:48 +0500 타토카 wrote: > Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use > Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main > computer will be "broken". > > It would certainly help, though better would be a hard/SSD drive with USB adaptor.

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 29/07/2024 02:57, 타토카 wrote: Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be "broken". Since you are asking this question, likely it is not enough. If your hardware allows it then consider in

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Is it enough to have usb Debian live (for example XFCE) and use Debian Sid? I mean I don't have another one computer, if the main computer will be "broken". On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 11:44 PM David Wright wrote: > On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:44:02 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2024 2

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 09:44:02 (+), Michael Kjörling wrote: > On 22 Jul 2024 21:20 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): > > The machine I'm typing on is running bullseye and was installed with > > linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64. It's running linux-image-5.10.0-31-amd64 > > now, so

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

y to sort it out it may take longer than half a day. And as I'm still not an expert with dpkg and apt I sometimes ask questions here and generally get helpful answers. So yes, I'm still happy with running Debian unstable. I hope this helps you to decide if unstable is something for you. Detlef

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

> > > This particular one may originate from > > > I had forgotten that page even existed. It hasn't been touched in 16 years. -rw-r--r-- 1 greg greg 11031 Dec 12 2007 sidfaq.html At this point it should be considered a historical artifact rather than

Re: Debian should have a rolling release version; was: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 22 Jul 2024 18:10 -0400, from noloa...@gmail.com (Jeffrey Walton): > A perfect case on point is "TTY1 layer bug", > . > Folks thought it was benign, and did not patch it or port existing > patches. It was one of

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 22 Jul 2024 21:20 -0500, from deb...@lionunicorn.co.uk (David Wright): > The machine I'm typing on is running bullseye and was installed with > linux-image-5.10.0-13-amd64. It's running linux-image-5.10.0-31-amd64 > now, so that's 22 different versions over 27 months, and a lot of work > put in

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Does anyone here use Debian Sid for professional work and programming? Are you happy with this? I just want to know your opinions about this experience. On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 7:52 AM Max Nikulin wrote: > > On 23/07/2024 09:23, Max Nikulin wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23/07/2024 09:23, Max Nikulin wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23/07/2024 02:30, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you w

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon 22 Jul 2024 at 18:10:24 (-0400), Jeffrey Walton wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:41 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > > [...] > > > 4. As I know Debian Sid does not have some packages like Arch, why? They > > > have rolling releases? I mean

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 5:41 PM Andy Smith wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > [...] > > 4. As I know Debian Sid does not have some packages like Arch, why? They > > have rolling releases? I mean packages, for example, hyprland. > > Debian sid is not a rolling relea

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

Hi, On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 01:38:07PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: > 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does > Debian Sid crash and breaked? If you have to ask this question, you should not t

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 23 Jul 2024 01:27 +0500, from cybertat...@gmail.com (타토카): > I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the > website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM will > crash, I just want to know what the solution can be for it. You have mentioned at least

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue 23 Jul 2024 at 00:25:27 (+0500), 타토카 wrote: > I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): > "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so > without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious > environment, you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Mon, Jul 22, 2024 at 21:38:23 +0100, Joe wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 01:27:49 +0500 > 타토카 wrote: > > > I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the > > website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM > > will crash, I just want to know what the solu

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

I know what PAM is. I understand what the problem is described on the website. But I think if I get Debian Sid Update and after that PAM will crash, I just want to know what the solution can be for it. I am interested in Debian Sid. But I just want to Insure myself of problems, which happened in th

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On Tue, Jul 23, 2024 at 00:25:27 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > I have read on the official Debian website about sid (in russian version): > "Maybe. There was one real case where PAM broke. PAM checks all users, so > without PAM no one can login, even as a root. If you work in a precarious > environment, you

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

rote: > > On 7/22/24 3:38 AM, 타토카 wrote: > > Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: > > 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often > > does Debian Sid crash and breaked? > > > I can't speak about Arch; I mo

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

On 7/22/24 3:38 AM, 타토카 wrote: Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does Debian Sid crash and breaked? I can't speak about Arch; I mostly use Sid on all my workstations, but none

Re: Debian Sid. General questions.

타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: > 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does > Debian Sid crash and breaked? this depends upon which packages are used frequently. > 2. I have seen on the Debian o

Debian Sid. General questions.

Hello, dear Debian Community! I just want to ask you a few questions: 1. How is Debian Sid stable then Arch Linux, for example? How often does Debian Sid crash and breaked? 2. I have seen on the Debian official site about Debian Sid and PAM. If I have this problem with PAM, what should I do? 3

Re: General questions

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 7:55 AM 타토카 wrote: > > And can you explain to me what is it, please? * > > $ alias | grep sha > alias sha1='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha1 ' > alias sha256='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha256 ' > alias sha512='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha512 ' It's a way of getting sha sums for a fi

Re: General questions

On 11/07/24 at 13:55, 타토카 wrote: And can you explain to me what is it, please? * $ alias | grep sha alias sha1='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha1 ' alias sha256='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha256 ' alias sha512='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha512 ' Since you are asking this question maybe you don't know that

Re: General questions

On Jul 11, 2024, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 17:23:43 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > But, what do you mean: "Because you haven't established a chain of trust > > from yourself to any of the signatures." > > Imagine someone walks up to you on the street and hands you a contract, > which i

Re: General questions

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 17:23:43 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > But, what do you mean: "Because you haven't established a chain of trust > from yourself to any of the signatures." Imagine someone walks up to you on the street and hands you a contract, which is signed by someone you've never heard of. You do

Re: General questions

Hi, cybertat...@gmail.com wrote: > gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature! That's normal. The concept of a "web of trust" suffers from the fact that most people which i know good enough to trust them in general have no idea of PGP and thus are not really trustworthy in s

Re: General questions

Ok, I think this is really enough for verification ( Maybe (^_^) ). But, what do you mean: "Because you haven't established a chain of trust from yourself to any of the signatures." Is it only for Debian developers? And is it very important? On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:58 PM Greg Wooledge wrote: >

Re: General questions

On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 16:47:45 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > Why 64 signatures not checked and no ultimately trusted keys found here: > $ gpg --import key-DA87E80D6294BE9B.txt > gpg: key DA87E80D6294BE9B: 64 signatures not checked due to missing keys > gpg: key DA87E80D6294BE9B: public key "Debian CD signi

Re: General questions

And can you explain to me what is it, please? * $ alias | grep sha alias sha1='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha1 ' alias sha256='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha256 ' alias sha512='/usr/bin/openssl dgst -sha512 ' On Thu, Jul 11, 2024 at 4:47 PM 타토카 wrote: > Why 64 signatures not checked and no ultimately t

Re: General questions

Why 64 signatures not checked and no ultimately trusted keys found here: $ gpg --import key-DA87E80D6294BE9B.txt gpg: key DA87E80D6294BE9B: 64 signatures not checked due to missing keys gpg: key DA87E80D6294BE9B: public key "Debian CD signing key " imported gpg: Total number processed: 1 gpg:

Re: General questions

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 6:07 PM 타토카 wrote: > > Hello, dear Debian Community. > > I just wanted to check a key with GPG. > > I have found this on https://www.debian.org/CD/verify: > > pub rsa4096/DA87E80D6294BE9B 2011-01-05 [SC] > > Key fingerprint = DF9B 9C49 EAA9 2984 3258 9D76 DA87 E80D 6294

Re: General questions

Hello, dear Debian Community. I just wanted to check a key with GPG. I have found this on https://www.debian.org/CD/verify: pub rsa4096/DA87E80D6294BE9B 2011-01-05 [SC] Key fingerprint = DF9B 9C49 EAA9 2984 3258 9D76 DA87 E80D 6294 BE9B uid Debian CD signing key How can

Re: General questions

On 7/8/24 19:02, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 06:08:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 7/8/24 17:20, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:15:00AM +0500, 타토카 wrote: I mean subscriptions like this "debian-user" The only cost associated with this mailing list is

Re: General questions

On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 06:08:49PM -0400, gene heskett wrote: > On 7/8/24 17:20, Andy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:15:00AM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > > > I mean subscriptions like this "debian-user" > > > > The only cost associated with this mailing list is your sanity. > > >

Re: General questions

On 7/8/24 17:20, Andy Smith wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:15:00AM +0500, 타토카 wrote: I mean subscriptions like this "debian-user" The only cost associated with this mailing list is your sanity. +1, Andy. Some of us get downright upset with the Karens that think they run this all volu

Re: General questions

Hi, On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 12:15:00AM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > I mean subscriptions like this "debian-user" The only cost associated with this mailing list is your sanity. Thanks, Andy -- https://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting

Re: General questions

Hi, cybertat...@gmail.com wrote: >     2.2. I have done then: gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --verify > SHA512SUMS.sign SHA512SUMS >     2.3. Then I have got next info: Signed was made in 30 june 2024 >    And RSA key: DF9B9C49EAA9298432589D76DA87E80D6294BE9B > I have compared 2011 's key and

Re: General questions

On Tue, Jul 09, 2024 at 00:15:00 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > Thank you all for your answers. > 1. But I mean subscriptions like this "debian-user":) But I really like > your answers about Debian's freedom. I think it is useful information. > Thanks. The debian-user mailing list is open to all who wish to

Re: General questions

Thank you all for your answers. 1. But I mean subscriptions like this "debian-user":) But I really like your answers about Debian's freedom. I think it is useful information. Thanks. 2. I just have verified GPG's keys manually: https://keyring.debian.org/ 2.1. I have downloaded SHA512 SUMS.sign

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other peoples' questions. Some contribute bug reports, code or documentation changes either to correct errors or to improve clarity. Some introduce their friends, family and relatives to free software and offer hands-on help. Some companies provide services at a lower price to people who are active in

Re: General questions

Hi, cybertat...@gmail.com wrote: > 2. How to check Debian Image Authentication? > Is checksum verification (sha216sum, sha512sum) enough? Only if you are trusting the site from where you downloaded the ISO. In that case you'd use the checksums in the files SHA256SUMS and SHA512SUMS as mere contro

Re: General questions

타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community. I have several questions: > 1. Are all subscriptions to Debian free? Yes. There are non-Debian businesses which can sell you support, if you like, but Debian software is all free. > 2. How to check Debian Image Authentication? Is checksum ver

Re: General questions

On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 10:24:13PM +0500, 타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community. I have several questions: > 1. Are all subscriptions to Debian free? > 2. How to check Debian Image Authentication? Is checksum verification > (sha216sum, sha512sum) enough? Should I verify with GPG

Re: General questions

On Mon, Jul 08, 2024 at 22:24:13 +0500, 타토카 wrote: > Hello, dear Debian Community. I have several questions: > 1. Are all subscriptions to Debian free? Debian is Free Software. You are allowed to download it, in both binary and source forms, without requiring a subscription, or a license,

General questions

Hello, dear Debian Community. I have several questions: 1. Are all subscriptions to Debian free? 2. How to check Debian Image Authentication? Is checksum verification (sha216sum, sha512sum) enough? Should I verify with GPG? If so, how can I do that? Or can you give me any additional advice to do

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

On Tue, Jan 09, 2024 at 10:57:29AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long > >>filenames. > > Seen it happen; > > I have serious doubts about the "it". > > > Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of > > a session of

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 10:07:26 -0600 David Wright wrote: Hello David, >The size of that is fixed when formatted, at least up to FAT16. >Long filenames will eat it up more quickly still. Create >subdirectories and the problem goes away. Yes, this is exactly what I experienced. So not the FAT at fa

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

On Tue 09 Jan 2024 at 10:57:29 (-0500), Stefan Monnier wrote: > >>What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long > >>filenames. > > Seen it happen; > > I have serious doubts about the "it". > > > Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of > > a session of c

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Filling the FAT (was: playing CDROM music questions)

>>What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long >>filenames. > Seen it happen; I have serious doubts about the "it". > Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of > a session of copying multiple files would be lost because the FAT was > filled, and overwrit

Re: playing CDROM music questions

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 16:15:27 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Hello Nicolas, >Pictures or it did not happen. Didn't bother because it appeared to be a well-understood phenomenon, based on my limited research. -- Regards _ "Valid sig separator is {dash}{dash}{space}" / ) "The b

Re: playing CDROM music questions

Brad Rogers (12024-01-09): > Seen it happen; Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the > beginning of a session of copying multiple files would be lost because > the FAT was filled, and overwritten from the start by files added later > in the session. > > We are talking in excess of 20,0

Re: playing CDROM music questions

On Tue, 9 Jan 2024 13:25:52 +0100 Nicolas George wrote: Hello Nicolas, >What are you talking about? FAT does not get “overloaded” by long >filenames. Seen it happen; Long filenames, mixed case, and files saved at the beginning of a session of copying multiple files would be lost because the FA

Re: playing CDROM music questions

Brad Rogers (12024-01-09): > Depends; I ended up buying three smaller sticks, because the > limitations of the file system meant that the File Allocation Table > got filled up wy before the larger capacity memory sticks did. The USB sticks we were discussing in this thread are way below the l

Re: playing CDROM music questions

Haines Brown (12024-01-08): > and that seems to have fixed the buffer problem. Nice. > The scripts folder is in my path. I holds many commands I regularly > use. > > Turns out that the "play" command was earlier taken by another > application. So I changed the command from play to Play, and n

Re: playing CDROM music questions

On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 21:09:54 + Michael Kjörling <2695bd53d...@ewoof.net> wrote: Hello Michael, >Alternatively, they also offer SanDisk SDXC 128 GB memory cards at $14 >a piece. One such will easily hold 1000 CDs at near-CD quality MP3. Depends; I ended up buying three smaller sticks, because

Re: playing CDROM music questions

On Monday 08 January 2024 03:49:17 pm Haines Brown wrote: > where can find an inexpensive drive to hold about 1000 cds and find > the time do all the converting? ㋡ The 4TB drive in my server has about 77GB roughly holding a similar amount of stuff. The time was over a rather lengthy period of

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