> "JK" == Joost Kooij <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
JK> The supposed audience for Debian-{Lite,Desktop,MagazineCover,Whatever}
JK> will probably want X (and giving them fvwm2-95 isn't such a bad idea
JK> either.)
>From what I hear, the fvwm2-95 is hard to configure. I would
recommend Afterstep
On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, George Bonser wrote:
> On the other hand, fvwm, the old fvwm, is relatively easy to configure.
And since you'll have a fair idea of what applications are likely to be
installed (since you'll be packaging them all together on a cd or
whatever) you could even provide a pre-set-u
On Aug 7, Olaf Weber wrote
> One place where I can imagine that a small installation would be
> popular is on laptops. But for those to work well, you need (i) the
> apm package, and (ii) recompile the kernel to enable apm support.
Another area could be linux-ha, which is not ready yet.
But when
Lindsay Allen writes:
> In other words the space required in round figures on a cdrom is 12 Mb for
> the disk-i386 set plus 8Mb for my selection of packages, or 20 Mb. So
> with 98 Mb available the is 78 Mb free to add other things.
One place where I can imagine that a small installation would
-> Here are some ideas for the remaining 72 Mb:
->
-> The supposed audience for Debian-{Lite,Desktop,MagazineCover,Whatever}
-> will probably want X (and giving them fvwm2-95 isn't such a bad idea
-> either.)
I think fvwm2-95 will be a little too complicated to configure
for newbies (I
On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, Lindsay Allen wrote:
> To get a feel for this, I made up what seemed to be a comfortable working
> Debian and went through the excercise of creating it from a minimum set of
> packages. The working Debian was just on 40 Mb and it needed only 8 Mb
> of packages to produce th
To get a feel for this, I made up what seemed to be a comfortable working
Debian and went through the excercise of creating it from a minimum set of
packages. The working Debian was just on 40 Mb and it needed only 8 Mb
of packages to produce this, as most files came from base1_3.tgz.
In other
> "KG" == Kai Grossjohann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
KG> See Section 6 "Profile Screens".
Hmmm, that looks indeed promising. I'm looking forward to seeing that
:)
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> On 05 Aug 1997, Stig Sandbeck Mathisen said:
SSM> What kind of workstation are you setting up?
SSM> [ ] "normal" workstation
SSM> [ ] Word processor (lyx/latex/emacs ... )
SSM> [ ] X-terminal
SSM> [ ] ...
As I read this, the Deity project is developing something that has
this
> "GH" == Graham Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
GH> So that means that if I use a Debian-Lite install I can't ever upgrade
GH> to a full installation from there? I missed the original post, but
GH> keeping a dpkg/dselect around for the eventual upgrade to full Debian
GH> (which may never
> "w" == wb2oyc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
w> I wish that someone with the skills would put together a Linux
w> better suited to the single user environment where many (most?) of
w> us use our home systems. Free from all the hassles of permissions,
w> root privelege to do this or that, etc!
On Fri, Aug 01, 1997 at 11:00:20AM +0100, Alec Clews wrote:
> There is obviously a desire to make a small, simple Debian and so I
> propose a project to make
> one available.
Do you mean small on the source media? I would think Debian
is a scalable as you want at installation.
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> "Robert" == Robert D Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Robert> I think this should be the main object of a smaller version
Robert> of debian (Please not Debian Lite!). A normal debian installation
Robert> loads up a single user machine with a lot of unneeded and unwanted
Robert> se
On Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:12:30 -0700, Jason Ish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In one of the first posts of this thread I suggested that it be aimed at
> single user systems will low resource software. ie) Get rid of all the
> server stuff, the user can install later if they want.
>
> Does this fit
On 15:18:49 "Robert D. Hilliard" wrote:
>
> I think this should be the main object of a smaller version of
>debian (Please not Debian Lite!). A normal debian installation loads
>up a single user machine with a lot of unneeded and unwanted server and
>network administration stuff.
>
>Bob
>
Man
On Sat, 02 Aug 1997 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On 15:18:49 "Robert D. Hilliard" wrote:
> >
> > I think this should be the main object of a smaller version of
> >debian (Please not Debian Lite!). A normal debian installation loads
> >up a single user machine with a lot of unneeded and u
Possibly the need for "Debian Lite" would be lessened with completion
of a friendly dselect or replacement for dselect, that would present
some reasonable options.
My biggest worry is the multiplication of packages. Perhaps it is an
inevitable situation with the kind of distribution that Deb
Alan is absolutely right.
The base install will always include a dpkg/dselect tool. There are
certain components of base that are always necessary in order to provide a
maintainable and upgradable system. These will always need to be installed
and kept available.
The current packaging system alr
Hello ppl,
I have been (quitely) reading the Debian project thread and I was
wondering whether the following is possible.
Why do we have to limit ourselves to debian-lite or any such subset of
Debian?
Is it not possible to have some sort of pre-packaged configuration files,
that you load with
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, David M wrote:
>
> Also users can "backup" a certain working state of their sytems into a
> packaging configuration file wich could then be used to reinstall (add,
> delete, etc) to that particular configuration.
This is a great idea! Mind you, the only times I've had to do
Dear Carl,
> I'm not by any stretch of the imagination a Linux or Unix expert, but
> as an experienced software trainer and former network manager and
> customer support person, I hope I'd be able to contribute some
> experience with the thought processes of the non-expert.
Yes, please do. We ne
On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, John F wrote:
> Couldn't dpkg generate a list of existing installed packages? Then a
> simple script could take that list and run dpkg -i on them.
dpkg --help:
dpkg --get-selections [ ...] get list of selections to stdout
dpkg --set-selections set packa
On Sun, 3 Aug 1997, Paul Wade wrote:
>
> Alan is absolutely right.
>
> The base install will always include a dpkg/dselect tool. There are
> certain components of base that are always necessary in order to provide a
> maintainable and upgradable system. These will always need to be installed
> a
On Aug 02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> On 15:18:49 "Robert D. Hilliard" wrote:
> >
> > I think this should be the main object of a smaller version of
> >debian (Please not Debian Lite!). A normal debian installation loads
> >up a single user machine with a lot of unneeded and unwanted server
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George Bonser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> The problem with that is that there are TOO MANY packages available and
> newbies end up getting into trouble by selecting additional stuff, hitting
> the conflict resolution screen and getting totally lost. A mini-De
On 3 Aug 1997, Graham Hughes wrote:
> So that means that if I use a Debian-Lite install I can't ever upgrade
> to a full installation from there?
NO! You most certainly WOULD be told about dselect and all the fine
offerings from the folks at Debian and could then launch dselect and
modify the
George Bonser writes:
> All you would do is answer a set of basic questions:
> Are you on a local network (LAN, most likely ethernet)?
> Do you have a dial up internet connection?
> Do you want a text-only system?
> etc.
> And a set of applications would be installed.
That is exactly what I had
On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Jason Ish wrote:
> Does this fit in somewhere.
>
> Jason
Would not work with what I have in mind for MY particular project since at
least a mail and small news service would be required but web service
would not be needed. I find it useful to have a POP3 server to read mail
Alec Clews wrote:
> Does anyone disagree with this? Are SPI happy to have this
> functionality
> in the Official Debian distribution? Does the SPI board have view on
> any
> of this?
In one of the first posts of this thread I suggested that it be aimed at
single user systems will low resource sof
>Does anyone disagree with this? Are SPI happy to have this functionality
>in the Official Debian distribution? Does the SPI board have view on any
>of this?
i'm only one of 200 developers. i don't have time to work in this
project myself, but mail me if i can help you with something. i'm
maintain
On Aug 1, Mario Olimpio de Menezes wrote
> > There is obviously a desire to make a small, simple Debian and so I
> > propose a project to make
> > one available.
> >
> > +To provide tools to extract the files required to create Debian-lite as
> > a subset (100Mb?) suitable for inclusion on a CD w
>
>On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Alec Clews wrote:
>
>> +To provide tools to extract the files required to create Debian-lite as
>> a subset (100Mb?) suitable for inclusion on a CD with other software
>
>I think should be better that the user installation option produces the
>Debian-Lite "installed system" i
On Fri, 1 Aug 1997, Alec Clews wrote:
> There is obviously a desire to make a small, simple Debian and so I
> propose a project to make
> one available.
>
> +To provide tools to extract the files required to create Debian-lite as
> a subset (100Mb?) suitable for inclusion on a CD with other softw
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