RE: List Ettiquette

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 14:51 -0700, Kevin Ross wrote: > If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To > header to be the list? As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually > edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. > Reply All goes

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-09-01 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, 2009-08-29 at 13:50 -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Is it customary here to CC both respondents and the list, or just the > list? In BSD-land we CC every individual in a discussion plus the list. No, it's not. http://lists.debian.org/ has the explaination; I must say that the BSD folks a

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-09-01 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <4a9cd879.8040...@cox.net>, Ron Johnson wrote: >On 2009-09-01 03:01, Steve Lamb wrote: >> After a quick check with the all knowing oracle, >> Google, > >When did Larry Ellison buy Google?? Case is important. Larry Ellison is associated with Oracle; Google is a bit of an oracle. -- Boyd Steph

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:01:51 -0700 Steve Lamb wrote: Hello Steve, > Er, you do know there's little correlation between the to and cc > headers with what goes on at SMTP time? Those headers exist for the Yes, I know that. The "something" I was referring to would have been local. Beyond th

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-09-01 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-09-01 03:01, Steve Lamb wrote: [snip] As for the client side I don't recall if 2822 states there can only be one of those headers. After a quick check with the all knowing oracle, Google, When did Larry Ellison buy Google?? looks like to and cc can have a minimum of 0 and a max

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-09-01 Thread Steve Lamb
Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:36:39 -0700 > Marc Shapiro wrote: > Hello Marc, >> As Brad said, it does not appear to be included in the outgoing mail, > If it were, I would hope something somewhere would complain about the > empty header, rather than just silently ignore it, even

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-09-01 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:36:39 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: Hello Marc, > As Brad said, it does not appear to be included in the outgoing mail, If it were, I would hope something somewhere would complain about the empty header, rather than just silently ignore it, even though a valid header exists.

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-31 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Monday 31 August 2009 15:35:57 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-31 12:39, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Sunday 30 August 2009 09:24:26 Jason C. Wells wrote: > >> Gosh you would think that I said micro-kernels are a waste of time or > > No, micro-kernels are the only way to move forward int

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon,31.Aug.09, 13:51:09, Chris Jones wrote: > On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 03:19:43AM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > [..] > > > Maybe you should 'set ignore_list_reply_to'? > > Perfect. > > Why the "maybe" - is there a caveat? I don't know, I never used that option ;) Regards, Andrei -- If you

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-31 12:39, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Sunday 30 August 2009 09:24:26 Jason C. Wells wrote: Gosh you would think that I said micro-kernels are a waste of time or No, micro-kernels are the only way to move forward into a pervasive cloud of computing resources. Why? No, really

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-31 Thread Chris Jones
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 03:19:43AM EDT, Andrei Popescu wrote: [..] > Maybe you should 'set ignore_list_reply_to'? Perfect. Why the "maybe" - is there a caveat? CJ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@l

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-31 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Sunday 30 August 2009 09:24:26 Jason C. Wells wrote: > Gosh you would think that I said micro-kernels are a waste of time or No, micro-kernels are the only way to move forward into a pervasive cloud of computing resources. > that vi is the one true editor. Well, at least you got that one rig

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-31 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 23:12, Mihira Fernando wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:11:28 -0600 ghe wrote: On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-30 19:07, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: ...and vi *is* the 1TE. I wrote" Which is why those of us who want something more than a me

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,30.Aug.09, 10:41:10, Ken Heard wrote: > What is needed to get it to work? I have Lenny and Icedove 2.0.0.22 > (20090726). I downloaded from http://alumnit.ca replytolist-0.3.0.xpi; > put it in directory /usr/lib/icedove/extensions; changed owner:group to > root:root; and changed permissi

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-31 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sun,30.Aug.09, 06:46:26, Chris Jones wrote: > > Careful as I am, I did manage to send "OFF-LIST" replies to a mailing > list by mistake on a couple of occasions.. with no serious damage, it > was just innocuous stuff that I felt was a bit too OT for the list.. > > But all the same it's not a

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 08:07:24PM EDT, John Hasler wrote: > Ron Johnson writes: > > ...and vi *is* the 1TE. > > I wrote" > > Which is why those of us who want something more than a mere editor use > > Emacs. > > Ron Johnson writes: > > That's what Linux is for... > > Linux is just a kernel. Yo

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Mihira Fernando
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:11:28 -0600 ghe wrote: > > On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > > > On 2009-08-30 19:07, John Hasler wrote: > >> Ron Johnson writes: > >>> ...and vi *is* the 1TE. > >> I wrote" > >>> Which is why those of us who want something more than a mere > >>> editor

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread ghe
On Aug 30, 2009, at 6:39 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-30 19:07, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: ...and vi *is* the 1TE. I wrote" Which is why those of us who want something more than a mere editor use Emacs. Ron Johnson writes: That's what Linux is for... Linux is just a ker

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 19:07, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: ...and vi *is* the 1TE. I wrote" Which is why those of us who want something more than a mere editor use Emacs. Ron Johnson writes: That's what Linux is for... Linux is just a kernel. You don't have an OS until you install Emac

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > ...and vi *is* the 1TE. I wrote" > Which is why those of us who want something more than a mere editor use > Emacs. Ron Johnson writes: > That's what Linux is for... Linux is just a kernel. You don't have an OS until you install Emacs. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 16:43, John Hasler wrote: Ron Johnson writes: ...and vi *is* the 1TE. Which is why those of us who want something more than a mere editor use Emacs. That's what Linux is for... -- Brawndo's got what plants crave. It's got electrolytes! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-use

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
Ken Heard wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: Ken Heard wrote: Am I doing something wrong? Overthinking it? I just downloaded, went to TBird, Tools -> Addons -> Install and chose the file from my download directory. That's exactly what I did, but it d

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Marc Shapiro
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: Brad Rogers wrote: If T'Bird is anything like Claws-Mail, the appearance of a second, empty, To: field is only an aesthetic inconvenience. It's there to allow you to send to multiple recipients, (B)Cc:, etc. In fact, the CM editor always comes up with two To: fields

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread John Hasler
Ron Johnson writes: > ...and vi *is* the 1TE. Which is why those of us who want something more than a mere editor use Emacs. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> Gosh you would think that I said micro-kernels are a waste of time or that >> vi is the one true editor. > But... MKs *are* a waste of time, Fair enough. > and vi *is* the 1TE. Woa there!! Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 09:24, Jason C. Wells wrote: Gosh you would think that I said micro-kernels are a waste of time or that vi is the one true editor. But... MKs *are* a waste of time, and vi *is* the 1TE. -- Obsession with "preserving cultural heritage" is a racist impediment to moral, physical and

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 07:14, Neal Hogan wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-29 23:34, Neal Hogan wrote: I forget when we made this agreement :) Well before you started using the internet on a regular basis. Well, it must have been against my will. In High School Ci

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > Ken Heard wrote: >> Am I doing something wrong? > > Overthinking it? I just downloaded, went to TBird, Tools -> Addons -> > Install and chose the file from my download directory. That's exactly what I did, but it did not inst

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Ken Heard wrote: > Am I doing something wrong? Overthinking it? I just downloaded, went to TBird, Tools -> Addons -> Install and chose the file from my download directory. -- Steve C. Lamb | But who decides what they dream? PGP Key: 8B6E99C5 | And dream I do.

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Ken Heard wrote: >> What is needed to get it to work? I have Lenny and Icedove 2.0.0.22 >> (20090726). I downloaded from http://alumnit.ca replytolist-0.3.0.xpi; >> put it in directory /usr/lib/icedove/extensions; change

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Ken Heard wrote: > What is needed to get it to work? I have Lenny and Icedove 2.0.0.22 > (20090726). I downloaded from http://alumnit.ca replytolist-0.3.0.xpi; > put it in directory /usr/lib/icedove/extensions; changed owner:group to > root:root; and changed permissions to -rwxr-xr-x; and told Ic

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Ken Heard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve Lamb wrote: > ... You know, every time this topic came up you would mention > replytolist and I would point out it never worked for me. I think we've had > that exchange publicly at least 2-3 times and privately at least once. Except >

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Jason C. Wells
Gosh you would think that I said micro-kernels are a waste of time or that vi is the one true editor. Cheers, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread JoeHill
Patrick Wiseman wrote: > [Yikes! I just sent this to the poster instead of the list, because > gmail defaults that way. Oh, the irony (at my own expense)!] > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Rakotomandimby > Mihamina wrote: > > 08/30/2009 07:28 AM, Neal Hogan: > >> > >> As with all subject

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread JoeHill
Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: > > We keepers of the in-line posting flame are a shrinking minority, > > now dominant only on Very Geeky lists. > > > > I have to agree. It's sad, but it's true. > > But this is not only Gmail's fault. Long before it existed The Proper > W

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
[Yikes! I just sent this to the poster instead of the list, because gmail defaults that way. Oh, the irony (at my own expense)!] On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 4:42 AM, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: > 08/30/2009 07:28 AM, Neal Hogan: >> >> As with all subject changing threads, stuff gets confusing . .

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-29 23:34, Neal Hogan wrote: I forget when we made this agreement :) >>> >>> Well before you started using the internet on a regular basis. >> >> Well, it must have been against my will. > > In High School Civics class, that

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Ron Johnson wrote: > We keepers of the in-line posting flame are a shrinking minority, > now dominant only on Very Geeky lists. > I have to agree. It's sad, but it's true. But this is not only Gmail's fault. Long before it existed The Proper Way of replying was dying. Outlook and Hotmail (whi

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Brad Rogers wrote: > If T'Bird is anything like Claws-Mail, the appearance of a second, > empty, To: field is only an aesthetic inconvenience. It's there to > allow you to send to multiple recipients, (B)Cc:, etc. In fact, the CM > editor always comes up with two To: fields for this very reason.

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Chris Jones wrote: > You're in mutt, you hit "r" for reply to poster instead of "L" for reply > to list and this annoying "Reply-To: list" causes the "To:" header that > is automatically created to point to the list instead of the poster's > private address. Oh, doesn't even need to be in mutt

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Chris Jones
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 06:24:55AM EDT, Cameron Hutchison wrote: > Chris Jones writes: [..] > >Thanks for the idea. > > >I will take a look at my .procmailrc and see how I can conversely > >eliminate these noxious Reply-to headers before they cause further > >damage. > > I feed all my mailing

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Chris Jones writes: >On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 06:53:41PM EDT, ghe wrote: >> >> :0Hfhw >> * ^Return-Path: >> | $FORMAIL -i "Reply-To: " >Thanks for the idea. >I will take a look at my .procmailrc and see how I can conversely >eliminate these noxious Reply-to headers before they cause further >da

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 04:03, Andrei Popescu wrote: [snip] As Windows is not the cause for people using their computers logged in as administrators. It's just that they (Windows and Gmail) make it quite hard to do it the right way and many people just choose the easy way. Many (most?) apps (including

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Brad Rogers
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 23:32:41 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: Hello Marc, > additional blank "To:" line is added. Is there a setting to avoid > this additional "To:" line? If T'Bird is anything like Claws-Mail, the appearance of a second, empty, To: field is only an aesthetic inconvenience. It's the

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat,29.Aug.09, 23:14:54, Neal Hogan wrote: > > Standards are the reason we're all here. Standards are the reason we use > > things > > like Debian. Standards are the reason that Debian works. > > It does . . . no disagreement here. But, to expect users to use the > standards that are not clea

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
08/30/2009 07:28 AM, Neal Hogan: As with all subject changing threads, stuff gets confusing . . . mailing list etiquette 101? We should add somewhere in another etiquette "dont post from Gmail" ;-) -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & D

Re: Tbird 3.0 (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > Besides features already enabled via Addons? Shredder (Tbird 3.0) has it built directly into the client now. No need for Mnenhy + replytolist. They finally, fi-nal-ly, hashed out some what to present the options to reply-to-list. While for people who found replytoli

Re: Tbird 3.0 (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 02:18, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: 08/30/2009 10:07 AM, Ron Johnson: What benefits does it have over the paned format that Tbird has had since it was Netscape 1.0? The reply to list feature? :-) Besides features already enabled via Addons? -- Obsession with "preserving cu

Re: Tbird 3.0 (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
08/30/2009 10:07 AM, Ron Johnson: What benefits does it have over the paned format that Tbird has had since it was Netscape 1.0? The reply to list feature? :-) -- Architecte Informatique chez Blueline/Gulfsat: Administration Systeme, Recherche & Developpement

Tbird 3.0 (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 01:44, Rakotomandimby Mihamina wrote: 08/30/2009 12:51 AM, Kevin Ross: If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To header to be the list? As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the ori

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-30 00:25, Steve Lamb wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: These are the two which I need: mnenhy replytolist "Reply To List" will still be greyed out, though, until within Mnenhy you enable "Extended Normal View". And don't forget that you can customize the toolbar to add the RTL icon.

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Rakotomandimby Mihamina
08/30/2009 12:51 AM, Kevin Ross: If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To header to be the list? As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. Reply All goes to the poster and the list

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Marc Shapiro
Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-29 18:05, JoeHill wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: From: JoeHill [mailto:joeh...@teksavvy.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. Re

Re: Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Ron Johnson wrote: > These are the two which I need: > mnenhy > replytolist > "Reply To List" will still be greyed out, though, until within Mnenhy > you enable "Extended Normal View". And don't forget that you can > customize the toolbar to add the RTL icon. ... You know, every time this t

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Steve Lamb
Kevin Ross wrote: > It's true I'm currently using Outlook from my Windows computer. But when > I'm at a Linux computer, I use Icedove, with the same results. 3.0 it is built directly into the client... finally! > Same with SquirrelMail webmail client. Except for you you enable the addo

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 23:34, Neal Hogan wrote: I forget when we made this agreement :) Well before you started using the internet on a regular basis. Well, it must have been against my will. In High School Civics class, that was called "tacit consent of the governed". -- Obsession with "preservin

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:36 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-29 23:25, Neal Hogan wrote: > [snip] >> >> We don't have to think > > Arrrghhh!  The dumbing-down of American civilization!! > > Must... end... thread... now... before... write... mile... long... screed!!! I thought you were the

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 23:25, Neal Hogan wrote: [snip] We don't have to think Arrrghhh! The dumbing-down of American civilization!! Must... end... thread... now... before... write... mile... long... screed!!! -- Obsession with "preserving cultural heritage" is a racist impediment to moral, phys

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
>> >> I forget when we made this agreement :) > > Well before you started using the internet on a regular basis. Well, it must have been against my will. > >>> If someone comes on here and starts asking us to forgive the >>> fact that they use different letters than we do, we're gonna say 'go f >

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 23:14, Neal Hogan wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, JoeHill wrote: [snip] It's not a question of 'pure', it's a question of standards. The reason we are all able to communicate is that we all agree to a standard set of symbols to convey meaning. I forget when we made this

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-29 23:06, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ron Johnson >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2009-08-29 22:45, Neal Hogan wrote: > > [snip] Just closing the gmail message (i.e., failed joke). I guess it should

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-29 23:02, JoeHill wrote: >> >> Neal Hogan wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> get over the email format! >> >> It's called being polite, and putting other people's needs ahead of your >> own. >> It's not a bad thing, it's a human thing. >> >>>

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 11:02 PM, JoeHill wrote: > Neal Hogan wrote: > >> >> >> get over the email format! > > It's called being polite, and putting other people's needs ahead of your own. > It's not a bad thing, it's a human thing. > >> gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comf

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 23:06, Neal Hogan wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-29 22:45, Neal Hogan wrote: [snip] Just closing the gmail message (i.e., failed joke). I guess it should have been past tense. Makes it difficult (impossible?) to find the correct thread t

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 23:02, JoeHill wrote: Neal Hogan wrote: get over the email format! It's called being polite, and putting other people's needs ahead of your own. It's not a bad thing, it's a human thing. gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable using. I don't get wh

Re: Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-29 22:45, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >> On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Ron Johnson >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2009-08-29 22:31, Neal Hogan wrote: get over the email format! >>> >>> I know.  Lost that war a long time ago.

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread JoeHill
Neal Hogan wrote: > > > get over the email format! It's called being polite, and putting other people's needs ahead of your own. It's not a bad thing, it's a human thing. > gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable > using. I don't get where this complaining about cli

Reason #14749 to hate gmail (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 22:45, Neal Hogan wrote: On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-29 22:31, Neal Hogan wrote: get over the email format! I know. Lost that war a long time ago... gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable using. I don't get wher

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:41 PM, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-29 22:31, Neal Hogan wrote: >> >> >> >> get over the email format! > > I know.  Lost that war a long time ago... > >> gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable >> using. I don't get where this complaining a

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 22:31, Neal Hogan wrote: get over the email format! I know. Lost that war a long time ago... gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable using. I don't get where this complaining about client usage is going. If you a want more "pure" OS, then . . . umm

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Chris Jones
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 06:53:41PM EDT, ghe wrote: > >>> If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the >>> Reply-To >>> header to be the list? > > Hey, Man. It's Policy. Put something like this in /etc/procmailrc on your > mail server: > > FORMAIL=/usr/bin/formail > > :0Hfhw > *

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread JoeHill
Tim Tebbit wrote: > JoeHill wrote: > > > > > > If there _was_ an official mail client, it would be Claws ;) > > mutt Okay, Claws _or_ Mutt. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.o

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Neal Hogan
get over the email format! gmail provides a nice gui-riffic format that many feel comfortable using. I don't get where this complaining about client usage is going. If you a want more "pure" OS, then . . . u . . . go somewhere else. Ron (et al) . . . you seem to have no problem responding

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 21:21, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:51:04 -0700 "Kevin Ross" wrote: ... If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To header to be the list? As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 14:51:04 -0700 "Kevin Ross" wrote: ... > If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To > header to be the list? As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually > edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. > Reply

Tbird Reply To List (was Re: List Ettiquette)

2009-08-29 Thread Ron Johnson
On 2009-08-29 18:05, JoeHill wrote: Kevin Ross wrote: From: JoeHill [mailto:joeh...@teksavvy.com] Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. Reply All goes to t

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Tim Tebbit
JoeHill wrote: If there _was_ an official mail client, it would be Claws ;) mutt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

RE: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Kevin Ross
> From: ghe [mailto:g...@slsware.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:54 PM > > >> If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the > >> Reply-To > >> header to be the list? > > Hey, Man. It's Policy. Put something like this in /etc/procmailrc on > your mail server: > > FO

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread JoeHill
Kevin Ross wrote: > > From: JoeHill [mailto:joeh...@teksavvy.com] > > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM > > > > > As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit > > the addressee > > > list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. > > Reply All goes to the

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread ghe
If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To header to be the list? Hey, Man. It's Policy. Put something like this in /etc/procmailrc on your mail server: FORMAIL=/usr/bin/formail :0Hfhw * ^Return-Path: | $FORMAIL -i "Reply-To: " (Note that my name is in the

RE: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Kevin Ross
> From: JoeHill [mailto:joeh...@teksavvy.com] > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 3:11 PM > > > As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually edit > the addressee > > list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. > Reply All goes to the > > poster and the list. > > That's because

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread JoeHill
Kevin Ross wrote: > > From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [mailto:edua...@kalinowski.com.br] > > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:07 PM > > > > Jason C. Wells wrote: > > > Is it customary here to CC both respondents and the list, > > or just the > > > list? In BSD-land we CC every individual i

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Kevin Ross wrote: > If this is official Debian policy, then why don't they set the Reply-To > header to be the list? As it is now, every time I reply, I have to manually > edit the addressee list. Hitting Reply only goes to the original poster. > Reply All goes to the poster and the list. > T

RE: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Kevin Ross
> From: Eduardo M KALINOWSKI [mailto:edua...@kalinowski.com.br] > Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2009 2:07 PM > > Jason C. Wells wrote: > > Is it customary here to CC both respondents and the list, > or just the > > list? In BSD-land we CC every individual in a discussion > plus the list. > >

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Tim Tebbit
Jason C. Wells wrote: Is it customary here to CC both respondents and the list, or just the list? In BSD-land we CC every individual in a discussion plus the list. Regards, Jason There are also those of us who follow the list via gmane. A CC would never reach me anyways. -- To UNSUBSC

Re: List Ettiquette

2009-08-29 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Jason C. Wells wrote: > Is it customary here to CC both respondents and the list, or just the > list? In BSD-land we CC every individual in a discussion plus the list. > Just the list. (After all, the purpose of the mailing list software is to distribute e-mails to those who want them, so no