Please, continue at d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org only!
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 04:49 +, Dirk wrote:
> http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png
> https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623
First of all, I forwarded this to a list, where one of those persons is
subscribed.
This is the OP: Dir
* On 2013 08 Apr 03:24 -0500, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Please, continue at d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org only!
Why? This list does not have an iron fisted moderator.
Some of the assertions in the picture are true, at least as to the
behavior of software and personalities, and this af
This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized
and not taken from banana republics.
Everybody, also a coder has got the right to be an assholes and to be
mistaken.
I don't try to defend the victims as individuals, I try to defend the
principle that defamation is wrong and
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 05:44:59AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2013 08 Apr 03:24 -0500, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > Please, continue at d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org only!
>
> Why? This list does not have an iron fisted moderator.
>
> Some of the assertions in the picture are t
On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2013 08 Apr 03:24 -0500, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> Please, continue at d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org only!
>
> Why? This list does not have an iron fisted moderator.
>
This is for Debian user support. This is not a forum for
On 08/04/13 14:01, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 3:44 AM, Nate Bargmann wrote:
>> * On 2013 08 Apr 03:24 -0500, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>>> Please, continue at d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org only!
>>
>> Why? This list does not have an iron fisted moderator.
>
Just killfi
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 00:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Btw. IMO this belongs to
> > > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic
> > > if we should continue without witch-hunting.
> >
> > IMO discussion belongs right here for reasons I stated above. Besi
Le 08.04.2013 12:44, Nate Bargmann a écrit :
* On 2013 08 Apr 03:24 -0500, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Please, continue at d-community-offto...@lists.alioth.debian.org
only!
Why? This list does not have an iron fisted moderator.
Some of the assertions in the picture are true, at least as to the
beha
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From: Ralf Mardorf [mailto:ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net]
Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 9:17 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: MICROSOFT HIRED THESE PEOPLE TO SABOTAGE OPEN SOURCE
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 00:28 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> > > Btw. IMO this b
On 04/08/2013 07:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized
and not taken from banana republics.
Everybody, also a coder has got the right to be an assholes and to be
mistaken.
I don't try to defend the victims as individuals, I try to def
On 08/04/13 06:26 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
But!!
Because there is a but!
Who made this image? Did this person contributed *any* line of code?
How could MS introduce enough people in core dev teams to have the
possibility to make the majority of votes about integrating stuff or
On Mon, April 8, 2013 12:29 pm, agroconsultor0 wrote:
> On 08/04/13 06:26 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>>
>> But!!
>> Because there is a but!
>> Who made this image? Did this person contributed *any* line of code?
>> How could MS introduce enough people in core dev teams to have the
>>
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 13:35 -0700, Weaver wrote:
> So!
> Are we saying that the policy by which devs are included into core
> function needs looking at, from a Q.A. viewpoint?
> Do we even have one?
> If not, this may very well be a good place to start.
I'm against Quality Assurance, IMO Linux nee
Le 08.04.2013 23:18, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 13:35 -0700, Weaver wrote:
So!
Are we saying that the policy by which devs are included into core
function needs looking at, from a Q.A. viewpoint?
Do we even have one?
If not, this may very well be a good place to start.
I'm
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 01:30:48AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> users to open the window to reach and eat an apple, when they were
> warned that it was the devil's fruit of hidden stuff!
>
> This is why we must only teach Python, Bash and C programming, and
> forgot all other curs
Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized
and not taken from banana republics.
I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be civilized
in this international mailing list I have to ask what are the standar
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 04:49:40AM +, Dirk wrote:
> http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png
> https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623
I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus,
with which I was minimally acquainted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus
D-Bus has replaced Bonobo (originated
On 04/08/2013 10:07 PM, Joel Roth wrote:
On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 04:49:40AM +, Dirk wrote:
http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png
https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623
I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus,
with which I was minimally acquainted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus
On Mon, April 8, 2013 2:18 pm, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 13:35 -0700, Weaver wrote:
>> So!
>> Are we saying that the policy by which devs are included into core
>> function needs looking at, from a Q.A. viewpoint?
>> Do we even have one?
>> If not, this may very well be a good pl
On Mon, April 8, 2013 6:56 pm, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
>> This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized
>> and not taken from banana republics.
>
> I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be civiliz
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
> > This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized
> > and not taken from banana republics.
>
> I don't like offtopic subjects, but since I am supposed to be c
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 17:07 -1000, Joel Roth wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 08, 2013 at 04:49:40AM +, Dirk wrote:
> > http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png
> > https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623
>
> I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus,
> with which I was minimally acquainted.
>
> https:/
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:27 -0500, Yaro Kasear wrote:
> 1. Complaining about a minor inconvenient feature change (Moving most of
> the save functionality into "export" mode. Annoying, but hardly a
> dealbreaking move.). Never mind that I find GIMP's new interfact
> introduced in 2.8 is a vast im
On Tue, 9 Apr 2013 04:26:59 -0700
"Weaver" wrote:
>
> On Mon, April 8, 2013 6:56 pm, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> > Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
> >> This is an international mailing list and the rules should be
> >> civilized and not taken from banana republics.
> >
> > I d
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:07 -0400, Carroll Grigsby wrote:
> Bzzzt. Wrong. Check out the Wikipedia article on banana
> republics.
That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I use
it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people
won't call Islamic nation
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I use
> it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people
> won't call Islamic nations that kill their own and other people "banana
> republic". Wh
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:28 -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I use
> > it for other countries with similar issues too. In Germany most people
> > won't call Islamic nations
Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
This is an international mailing list and the rules should be civilized
and not taken from banana republics.
I don't like offtopic subject
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
> > On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> >> Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
> >>> This is an international mailing list and the rules should
it's getting hot.
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On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:26 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> > Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
> > > On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> > >> Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
>
On 09/04/13 15:12, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> Your response is anything but civilized. It is arrogant, not to say
> irrational. You initially used as a model of the uncivilized the "banana
> republics", that are just poor countries that are economically exploited
> and politically dominated
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 15:47 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> I killfiled Mardorf a while ago, because I was disinterested in his
> arrogant racist views.
I recommended to switch to off-topic mailing list! It's good if people
know how to filter email, but show me "racist views" (you might read it,
Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories?
42.
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Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
Em 08-04-2013 08:03, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
This is an international
Yes, sir, the topic at hand is so incredibly relevant to this list!
Yup, it's exactly the kind of thing that people who subscribed to it
because it's a LIST SPECIFICALLY ABOUT USER-TO-USER SUPPORT OF THE
*DEBIAN OPERATING SYSTEM* want to see. Yup, it's sure what those who
signed up for a list abou
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:59 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> > Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories?
>
> 42.
Perhaps some Babel fishes would help, since language barriers seem to be
not unimportant. And IIRC Deep Thou
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 12:04 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> Em 09-04-2013 11:26, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
> > On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 11:12 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assirati wrote:
> >> Em 09-04-2013 08:38, Ralf Mardorf escreveu:
> >>> On Mon, 2013-04-08 at 22:56 -0300, João Luis Meloni Assira
On 04/09/2013 06:55 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
(snip)
Why does Debian by default have the "iced" Mozillas?
Because they're the only distribution that cares about the free software
zealotry enough to comply with the Firefox trademark guideline? Just
spitballing there.
Most people consider firefo
Le 09.04.2013 17:07, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 16:59 +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org
wrote:
Le 09.04.2013 16:57, Ralf Mardorf a écrit :
> Any evidence for all those claims and conspiracy theories?
42.
Perhaps some Babel fishes would help, since language barriers seem
Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Joel Roth wrote:
> > Dirk wrote:
> > > http://i.imgur.com/6Oja0bm.png
> > > https://boards.4chan.org/g/res/32881623
> >
> > I wondered about this. Looking at one example: D-Bus,
> > with which I was minimally acquainted.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Bus
> >
> > D-B
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 04:42:59PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
.snip
>
> You now behave exactly as the OP does! My intention clearly is, that
> it's not ok to discredit folks from upstream, just because we have
> different opinions. And it's not ok when you now discredit m
On Tue, April 9, 2013 6:02 am, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-04-09 at 08:28 -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
>> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 02:23:11PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> > That's a description of the term "banana republic", but colloquial I
>> use
>> > it for other countries with similar issues
> GConf I *think* was merely a GNOME construct, so if you're not a GNOME
> user you don't have to bother with it. There wasn't really much of a
> technical issue with it except it emulates the Windows Registry in
> superficial ways.
There are technical issues such as actually more difficult
adm
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Now, I am not using a DE anymore, and also planning about creating a
> DE based on a tiling WM and minimalistic tools that you can use in
> keyboard only.
There are a lot of tiling WMs to choose from:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Comparison_of_Tilin
Le 09.04.2013 00:58, Joel Roth a écrit :
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Now, I am not using a DE anymore, and also planning about creating a
DE based on a tiling WM and minimalistic tools that you can use in
keyboard only.
There are a lot of tiling WMs to choose from:
https://wiki.ar
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Le 09.04.2013 00:58, Joel Roth a écrit :
> >berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> >>Now, I am not using a DE anymore, and also planning about creating a
> >>DE based on a tiling WM and minimalistic tools that you can use in
> >>keyboard only.
> >
> >There a
Le 09.04.2013 07:24, Joel Roth a écrit :
Sounds like you've got a Big Picture(tm) vision to create!
Yes, I know, but modern softwares globally tends to integrate features
they should not, and if no-one does a software with clear objectives to
restrict this problem, it will never change.
Some
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> Well, I know that i3 is very active (as I said, I really like this
> software, and it is, in my opinion, one of the best I have used in
> all categories: easiness of config, lightweight, features only
> related to its job...), and the commun
Le 09.04.2013 14:13, Anthony Campbell a écrit :
I like i3 too, but I find that spectrwm has similar features but is
better in some respects. I have a comparison of i3, dwm, xmonad, and
spectrwm on my blog at
http://www.acampbell.org.uk/serendipity/index.php?/archives/609-Four-tiling-window-manag
Le 09.04.2013 16:14, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org a écrit :
(I thought it was possible to hide title bars, but
while reading the doc it appears that I was wrong...
And by reading it with a search on word "title" I just remember that, I
was true so, here is the option:
"border none". But i
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>> Interesting.
> I just would like to notify you of some imprecise expressions which
> could lead to error: "But I mostly work in stacked mode" you should
> have speak about stacked layout, since the stacking mode is the one
> used by most
Not
Le 09.04.2013 17:44, Anthony Campbell a écrit :
On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
Interesting.
I just would like to notify you of some imprecise expressions which
could lead to error: "But I mostly work in stacked mode" you should
have speak about stacked layout, since the
Anthony Campbell wrote:
> Status bar: in spectrwm you can optionally have no frame at all in
> fullscreen when you turn off the status bar. An absolutely minimal
> screen.
That is the default in Stumpwm. The behavior is similiar to
and inspired by GNU screen.
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On 09 Apr 2013, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
>
> To be honest, I must admit I found them absolutely useless too in
> tiling layout. But in stacked or tabbed ones, how could I see on
> what kind of window I'll go if I can not see their titles? (I guess
> this is why they are preserved by i3
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