Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-20 Thread Heinrich Rebehn
David Wright wrote: Several posters have pointed out that I can get DHCP to assign IPs based on MAC, which goes a long way toward solving my problem. I guess if I share hosts using ldap, I can still give each machine a unique name, too. Now the only problem I can think of with sharing /usr and

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
David Wright said: I have also thought of trying to make the workstations diskless and using DHCP -- but then how can I give each machine a fixed name and IP address? i can't give a good answer for the rest but this one is easy. on my home network i tell dhcp to assign static ips via MAC

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Dave Sherohman
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:17:29PM -0800, David Wright wrote: (Whatever happened to the very intelligent policy of configuring programs in /bin in /etc, configuring programs in /usr/bin in /usr/etc, and configuring programs in /usr/local/bin in /usr/local/etc?!) Wouldn't really help any, given

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:31:27PM -0800, nate wrote: im not sure if fixed-address will take an IP or not, the examples i saw all took hostnames so you may have to have DNS setup .. it works though. assigns the same ip every time. i take the machine to the office and i have my dhcp server

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Petro
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:17:29PM -0800, David Wright wrote: I manage a cluster used for computational neuroscience at a University. The number of machines is starting to get to a point where it is difficult to maintain software synchronization across machines. Any tips?

RE: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Kelley, Tim \(CBS-New Orleans\)
I would say if you're gonna go ahead and share /usr you may as well go diskless. OR: run a centrally managed group of apps over X remotely (this could get messy tho) this way they all run on the same machine However what is the problem you're having with the machines having their own /usr?

RE: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread David Wright
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kelley, Tim (CBS-New Orleans) wrote: I would say if you're gonna go ahead and share /usr you may as well go diskless. I think you are probably right about this. OR: run a centrally managed group of apps over X remotely (this could get messy tho) this way they all run on

RE: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Kelley, Tim \(CBS-New Orleans\)
Mounting just /usr over nfs is going to have non trivial reprocussions with dpkg I would think. That is usually what /opt is for and probably why debian does not use it. I don't understand this, but I certainly want to! Why would dpkg care or even know if the directory it is writing

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Stephen Gran
Thus spake Petro: On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 01:17:29PM -0800, David Wright wrote: I manage a cluster used for computational neuroscience at a University. The number of machines is starting to get to a point where it is difficult to maintain software synchronization across machines. Any

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread hanasaki
Is there some way to have: - Machine is assigned a DHCP random IP - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into Bind with the hostname? nate wrote: David Wright said: I have also thought of trying to make the workstations diskless and using DHCP -- but then how

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Robert Waldner
On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:35:21 CST, hanasaki writes: Is there some way to have: - Machine is assigned a DHCP random IP - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into Bind with the hostname? uargh, you're thinking of something like MSs Active DNS (or whatever it's called

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Rich Puhek
How about setting up a custom /etc/ for each client... doing something like: On NFS server: == export/etc/ client1/ client2/ client3/ ... On clients: === mount server:export/etc/clientn /etc/ (where n is the client number...) /etc isn't huge, so having

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Richard Hector
David Wright wrote: Now the only problem I can think of with sharing /usr and /etc is that my file server's /etc will contain stuff like /etc/exports, which will end up telling every machine to be a file server. H. The server doesn't have to export its _own_ /etc - you could have a

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Petro
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:38:56PM -0800, Robert Waldner wrote: On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 16:35:21 CST, hanasaki writes: Is there some way to have: - Machine is assigned a DHCP random IP - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into Bind with the hostname? uargh,

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
David Wright said: Several posters have pointed out that I can get DHCP to assign IPs based on MAC, which goes a long way toward solving my problem. I guess if I share hosts using ldap, I can still give each machine a unique name, too. Now the only problem I can think of with sharing /usr

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
hanasaki said: Is there some way to have: - Machine is assigned a DHCP random IP - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into Bind with the hostname? i don't know how you'd use the MAC to map to a hostname. you can use it to map to an ip ..but how would you

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread Petro
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0800, nate wrote: hanasaki said: Is there some way to have: - Machine is assigned a DHCP random IP - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into Bind with the hostname? i don't know how you'd use the MAC to map to a

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread nate
Petro said: On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 03:49:05PM -0800, nate wrote: hanasaki said: Is there some way to have: - Machine is assigned a DHCP random IP - Use the MAC to map to a hostname and then push the assigned IP into Bind with the hostname? i don't know how you'd use the MAC to map

Re: managing multiple machines

2001-11-19 Thread dman
On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:15:11PM -0800, David Wright wrote: | On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Kelley, Tim (CBS-New Orleans) wrote: | | I would say if you're gonna go ahead and share /usr you may as well go | diskless. You can specify a directory on the server to serve as the root for the client(s).