Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-19 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 19 Dec 2019 12:35:06 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > ...the problem only occurs when tethering. > > I wrote: > > Which is the only time the cellular encapsulation is being done. > > Celejar writes: > > Understood. I had been responding to your point about the wifi > >

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-19 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > ...the problem only occurs when tethering. I wrote: > Which is the only time the cellular encapsulation is being done. Celejar writes: > Understood. I had been responding to your point about the wifi > encapsulation. You've eliminated that by demonstrating that the problem

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-19 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 21:46:29 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > ...the problem only occurs when tethering. > > Which is the only time the cellular encapsulation is being done. Understood. I had been responding to your point about the wifi encapsulation. Celejar

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > ...the problem only occurs when tethering. Which is the only time the cellular encapsulation is being done. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 13:58:38 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > I assume the phone first just routes them from wifi to cellular. I'm > > not familiar with how it then transmits them over the cellular link. > > It has to encapsulate them in some way for the cellular protocol. > > >

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > I assume the phone first just routes them from wifi to cellular. I'm > not familiar with how it then transmits them over the cellular link. It has to encapsulate them in some way for the cellular protocol. > Yes, but that happens with virtually all this machine's network >

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:29:08 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > I'm not that familiar with the internals, but basically, the phone > > presents a wifi access point, the computer connects to it as it would > > to any AP, and the phone apparently routes packets to and from the > >

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 07:47:18 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > It does work (and to automate it, I'll probably put it in e/n/i with a > > post-up line) - I'm just looking for the "right" way to do it (and to > > undo it on connection down, as I discussed in another message in this >

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > It does work (and to automate it, I'll probably put it in e/n/i with a > post-up line) - I'm just looking for the "right" way to do it (and to > undo it on connection down, as I discussed in another message in this > thread). I wouldn't worry about doing it the *right* way.

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > I'm not that familiar with the internals, but basically, the phone > presents a wifi access point, the computer connects to it as it would > to any AP, and the phone apparently routes packets to and from the > cellular network. Yes, I know that. However, the packets are being

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 10:59:11 - (UTC) Curt wrote: > On 2019-12-18, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > > > Another option might be to use Network Manager, I think its connections > > can set a custom MTU, but I'm not 100% sure as I've never tried it. > > I've used tethering successfully with

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 02:30:01 -0500 Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > On 12/17/19 11:39 AM, Celejar wrote: > > > > Now I just have have to figure out the best place to configure this. > > I'm using dhcp via /etc/network/interfaces, but the 'dhcp' method > > doesn't seem to support manual MTU setting. I

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-18 Thread Curt
On 2019-12-18, Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > Another option might be to use Network Manager, I think its connections > can set a custom MTU, but I'm not 100% sure as I've never tried it. I've used tethering successfully with Network Manager but never had occasion to alter the mtu settings. Why

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-17 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On 12/17/19 11:39 AM, Celejar wrote: Now I just have have to figure out the best place to configure this. I'm using dhcp via /etc/network/interfaces, but the 'dhcp' method doesn't seem to support manual MTU setting. I could use a 'supersede interface-mtu' line in dhclient.conf, but AFAICT,

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-17 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 13:38:59 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > Celejar writes: > > ...on my normal network connection, with > > the MTU left at the normal 1500, I have no problems. > > What *kind* of connection? Verizon Fios residential. But I have used my system with dozens of different internet

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-17 Thread John Hasler
Celejar writes: > ...on my normal network connection, with > the MTU left at the normal 1500, I have no problems. What *kind* of connection? > It's only while on this particular connection via cell phone tether > that I see problems. The problem I experienced had to do with pppoe overhead and

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-17 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 12:53:21 -0600 John Hasler wrote: > tomas writes: > > I don't know the error message by heart, but here, it seems > > the message size is too big for your local MTU... > > Celejar writes: > > Yes, I think this is pretty clear. The local wifi interface has the > > standard

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-17 Thread John Hasler
tomas writes: > I don't know the error message by heart, but here, it seems > the message size is too big for your local MTU... Celejar writes: > Yes, I think this is pretty clear. The local wifi interface has the > standard MTU of 1500, so it rejects packets larger than that. > With =

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-17 Thread Celejar
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 07:15:21 +0100 wrote: > On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:37:12PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I have a Debian Sid system with generally working networking. Recently, > > I experienced some strange connectivity problems with a particular > > network connection [...] > >

Re: Broken PMTUD / ICMP blackhole?

2019-12-16 Thread tomas
On Mon, Dec 16, 2019 at 10:37:12PM -0500, Celejar wrote: > Hi, > > I have a Debian Sid system with generally working networking. Recently, > I experienced some strange connectivity problems with a particular > network connection [...] > PING 1.1.1.1 (1.1.1.1) 1492(1520) bytes of data. > ping: