Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-10-12 15:04, Weaver wrote: On 13-10-2020 07:27, mick crane wrote: I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch to PCs I personally have apf-firewall onboard, and it's hard to beat in my opinion, for ease of config as well as efficiency, but pfsense is

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-10-12 14:27, mick crane wrote: might I ask a favour for information on accepted wisdom for this stuff ? I being a home user have pfsense on old lenovo between ISP router and switch to PCs another old buster lenovo doing email another Buster PC I do bits of programming on. Windows PC I

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread Weaver
On 13-10-2020 07:27, mick crane wrote: > On 2020-10-11 19:01, Andy Smith wrote: >> Hi Mick, >> >> On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:45:45PM +0100, mick crane wrote: >>> Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes >>> to SSD for longevity. >> >> Flash write endurance has co

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread mick crane
On 2020-10-11 19:01, Andy Smith wrote: Hi Mick, On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:45:45PM +0100, mick crane wrote: Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes to SSD for longevity. Flash write endurance has come on leaps and bounds over the last decade to the point

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-12 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 11 oct 20, 19:06:12, Linux-Fan wrote: > > Another common option is using the `relatime` mount option for SSDs, but I > do not configure this explicitly on my systems. According to mount(8) 'relatime' is the default since Linux 2.6.30. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFr

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread David Christensen
On 2020-10-11 09:45, mick crane wrote: Bearing in mind I rarely do installs and when I do usually let the installer do its thing. Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes to SSD for longevity. Is it a matter of putting entries in fstab for /swap /var /home to

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 20:25 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2020-10-11 13:48 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > > "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > > > > Where do you see that? > > For a SATA SSD: > > # smartctl -l devstat $SSD >

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-10-11 13:48 -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: >> "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > > Where do you see that? For a SATA SSD: # smartctl -l devstat $SSD Cheers, Sven

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Darac Marjal
On 11/10/2020 18:48, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: >> "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > Where do you see that? If you have an NVMe device, you can run "nvme smart-log /dev/nvme" (or "nvme smart-log /dev/nvmen" if you have multiple namespaces o

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hello, On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 01:48:48PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > > "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" > > Where do you see that? Usually a SMART attribute like "233 Media Wearout Indicator" or if that isn't available devices ofte

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Andy Smith
Hi Mick, On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 05:45:45PM +0100, mick crane wrote: > Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes > to SSD for longevity. Flash write endurance has come on leaps and bounds over the last decade to the point where most people don't have to worry ab

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sun, 2020-10-11 at 19:47 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote: > "Percentage Used Endurance Indicator" Where do you see that? -Jim P.

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2020-10-11 17:45 +0100, mick crane wrote: > Bearing in mind I rarely do installs and when I do usually let the > installer do its thing. > Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid > writes to SSD for longevity. No, you are not. I put an SSD into my desktop compute

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Peter Ehlert
I don't use the automatic install, I don't like what it chooses. I use the manual method to set things up exactly as desired. to answer your question you can install on any available drive, SSD or HDD... use or create some or all of your partitions wherever you like. your new fstab will point t

Re: SSD and HDD

2020-10-11 Thread Linux-Fan
mick crane writes: Bearing in mind I rarely do installs and when I do usually let the installer do its thing. Got a PC that has SSD and a HDD. I see that you are supposed to avoid writes to SSD for longevity. Is it a matter of putting entries in fstab for /swap /var /home to suitably format