Re: Why Debian packaging structure is so difficult

On 09/01/2023 13:20, Sadhu Santh wrote: If not, why the upstream structure is not made simpler? If I remember correctly, current repository layout minimizes traffic at the moment of new release. .deb packages are already synced as a part of testing suite. Almost certainly it is explained on

Re: Why Debian packaging structure is so difficult

On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 01:59:50PM +0530, Sadhu Santh wrote: > > > > I am hosting a local Debian mirror for my LAN. This helps in low internet > > > bandwidth use. > > > > > > I keep only the required distributions (past five years and testing > > > release). > > > > > > Compared to other distri

Re: Why Debian packaging structure is so difficult

On 09/01/23 17:48, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 11:50:23AM +0530, Sadhu Santh wrote: Hi, I am hosting a local Debian mirror for my LAN. This helps in low internet bandwidth use. I keep only the required distributions (past five years and testing release). Compared to oth

Re: Why Debian packaging structure is so difficult

On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 07:35:18 -0700 Charles Curley wrote: > On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 07:18:53 -0500 > Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > > > The best solution, IMHO, is to mirror using a tool that is aware of > > the specific structure of apt repositories. Personally, I have had > > excellent success with ap

Re: Why Debian packaging structure is so difficult

On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 07:18:53 -0500 Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: > The best solution, IMHO, is to mirror using a tool that is aware of > the specific structure of apt repositories. Personally, I have had > excellent success with apt-cacher-ng, which functions much like a > squid proxy. You configure

Re: Why Debian packaging structure is so difficult

On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 11:50:23AM +0530, Sadhu Santh wrote: > Hi, > > I am hosting a local Debian mirror for my LAN. This helps in low internet > bandwidth use. > > I keep only the required distributions (past five years and testing > release). > > Compared to other distributions such ArchLinux

Re: why Debian?

No, I didn't take the kernel development. I am just a data scientist, using python, R, spark, hadoop to do the application jobs. Thanks. On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 1:33 PM SAIFI wrote: > On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, Piper H wrote: > > > For debian and ubuntu, which one should I choose as my personal > devel

Re: why Debian?

On Thu, 2 Dec 2021, Piper H wrote: For debian and ubuntu, which one should I choose as my personal development system? @Piper, if intend to do 'development' work in modern C++ on your system, suggest you download 'bookworm'. This gets you glibc-2.32-4 and hence gcc 11.2.0-2 Here is the li

Re: why Debian?

Thanks for the info you provided @Karthik . That would be very helpful Regards Piper On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 7:03 AM Karthik wrote: > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 1:37 AM Piper H wrote: > > > > @Karthik glad to see the info you providesd. > > You're welcome,feel free to ask questions,Im happy to

Re: why Debian?

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 1:37 AM Piper H wrote: > > @Karthik glad to see the info you providesd. You're welcome,feel free to ask questions,Im happy to help > Especially for cudnn running on ubuntu 18.04 and above. It's just 18.04 and not above as other versions only have partial support LTS versio

Re: why Debian?

@Karthik glad to see the info you providesd. Especially for cudnn running on ubuntu 18.04 and above. Does debian have good support for DNN stuff? Thanks. Piper On Thursday, December 2, 2021, Karthik wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 5:27 PM Piper H wrote: > >> For debian and ubuntu, which

Re: why Debian?

I am a data engineer. Most time works around Hadoop, Spark, Streaming, MQ, R and Python stuff. I have my personal Mac, but want to learn more on Linux dev and ops. Thanks. Piper On Friday, December 3, 2021, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 07:56:31PM +0800, Piper H wrote: > >

Re: why Debian?

On Thu, Dec 02, 2021 at 07:56:31PM +0800, Piper H wrote: > For debian and ubuntu, which one should I choose as my personal > development system? > Thanks. > What are you developing _in_ ? Debian stable is pretty much unconditionally stable and includes huge amounts of software. On the other hand

Re: why Debian?

On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, 5:27 PM Piper H wrote: > For debian and ubuntu, which one should I choose as my personal > development system? > Thanks. > Depends on your use case and preference If you're experienced enough or willing to learn then either of them are equally good and you shouldn't have a

Re: why Debian?

On 12/2/21 3:56 AM, Piper H wrote: For debian and ubuntu, which one should I choose as my personal development  system? Thanks. pleas do some more research. it is Personal choice: for a Stable and Secure, with no problems, everyday computer use, use Debian for experimental plunking around y

Re: why Debian?

Piper H wrote: > For debian and ubuntu, which one should I choose as my personal > development  system? The question is almost blasphemic; The original (Debian) of course! ;-)

Re: why Debian?

For debian and ubuntu, which one should I choose as my personal development system? Thanks. On Thu, Dec 2, 2021 at 7:02 PM Anssi Saari wrote: > Thanos Katsiolis writes: > > > The reasons I chose them is that Debian is considered a stable and > reliable OS (the policy of the OS is not to > > i

Re: why Debian?

Thanos Katsiolis writes: > The reasons I chose them is that Debian is considered a stable and reliable > OS (the policy of the OS is not to > include as many and as much quickly as possible new features), and that it > has a large and dependable community. Isn't that enough? I guess I'd say th

Re: why Debian?

Thanos Katsiolis writes: > Hello, > > I am new to the Debian distribution and I would like to hear opinions > ... Well, i like GNU Emacs than Debian. And i also new to Debian. Before i used Ubuntu 18.04 LTS. Debian 11 Bullseye is not bad with GNU Emacs ^^^ Sincerely, Gnus fan Byung-Hee

Re: why Debian?

On 11/14/21 4:56 AM, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: Hello, I am new to the Debian distribution and I would like to hear opinions from experienced users on why someone should choose them as OS. The reasons I chose them is that Debian is considered a stable and reliable OS (the policy of the OS is not to

Re: why Debian?

For me Debian strikes a nice balance between convenience and staying out of my way and preserving my changes when I want to customize things. As mentioned, apt, though I like using aptitude through its TUI mostly, handles dependencies not just for installing but for removing packages as well. Whe

Re: why Debian?

Actually, this question lets me raise a deeper one. Why Linux...at all? I am often in discussions where the question comes up, mostly because on the one hand its everywhere, but on the other it seems its broader user base is limited. Intellectuals, developers, programmers, certainly, but gener

Re: why Debian?

On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 14:56:39 +0200 Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to the Debian distribution and I would like to hear opinions > from experienced users on why someone should choose them as OS. > The reasons I chose them is that Debian is considered a stable and > reliable OS Tha

Re: why Debian?

On 14/11/2021 12:56, Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to the Debian distribution and I would like to hear opinions > from experienced users on why someone should choose them as OS. > The reasons I chose them is that Debian is considered a stable and > reliable OS (the policy of the OS

Re: why Debian?

Hello, The reasons I chose them is that Debian is considered a stable and reliable OS (the policy of the OS is not to include as many and as much  quickly as possible new features), and that it has a large and dependable community.  Debian stable release(currently 11

Re: why Debian?

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 6:27 PM Thanos Katsiolis wrote: > Hello, > > I am new to the Debian distribution and I would like to hear opinions from > experienced users on why someone should choose them as OS. > The reasons I chose them is that Debian is considered a stable and > reliable OS (the policy

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

On 2017-08-09 03:11:48 +0800, spp mg wrote: > In the ~/.profile has below default setting: > > -- > # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists > if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then > PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" > fi > -- > > Why put ~/bin beginning ? Is that dangero

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

> Why put ~/bin beginning ? 2 weeks ago, i installed new Ruby. At that time it was proper to me. By the Debian rule, users can test new program. Yes i think in positive. Sincerely, -- ^고맙습니다 _布德天下_ 감사합니다_^))//

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

On Wed 09 Aug 2017 at 18:04:56 (+0200), Gian Uberto Lauri wrote: > Having ~/bin before /bin and /usr/bin (and /usr/local/bin) is of no > harm at all if your account is safe enough. > > If and only if someone can log on with your account, she can put a > malicious copy/wrapper of a system command

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

> "慕冬" == 慕 冬亮 writes: 慕冬> User's command is usually stored in "/usr/local/bin". It should 慕冬> be placed before "/bin" in the $PATH. /usr/local is a directory hierarchy for binaries typical of the local installation and being, by default, owned by root, it is not a directory for user command

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

On 08/08/2017 04:56 PM, spp mg wrote: > 2017-08-09 4:04 GMT+08:00 Michael Lange : >> Hi, >> >> On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 03:11:48 +0800 >> spp mg wrote: >> >>> Hi all >>> >>> In the ~/.profile has below default setting: >>> >>> -- >>> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exist

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 10:04:32PM +0200, Michael Lange wrote: > #!/bin/bash > GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk /usr/bin/poedit $@ > exit $? Should be: #!/bin/bash GTK_IM_MODULE=gtk exec /usr/bin/poedit "$@" You could also use #!/bin/sh, since this doesn't use any bash extensions.

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

Teemu Likonen [2017-08-09 07:42:43+03] wrote: > rm --force "$HOME/bin" Fix: rm --force --recursive "$HOME/bin" -- /// Teemu Likonen - .-.. // // PGP: 4E10 55DC 84E9 DFF6 13D7 8557 719D 69D3 2453 9450 /// signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

spp mg [2017-08-09 04:56:58+08] wrote: > For example , some guy put a "rm" but named "ls" to ~/bin . This "ls" > can be virus or ransomware , user may not know it's not which he > want("ls"). The "some guy" who does that will also modify the ~/.profile file or similar startup scripts to _ensure_

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

Hi, On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 04:56:58 +0800 spp mg wrote: (...) > For example , some guy put a "rm" but named "ls" to ~/bin . This "ls" > can be virus or ransomware , user may not know it's not which he > want("ls"). a user without administrator privilege can generally put "malware" anywhere in *his

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

2017-08-09 4:04 GMT+08:00 Michael Lange : > Hi, > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 03:11:48 +0800 > spp mg wrote: > >> Hi all >> >> In the ~/.profile has below default setting: >> >> -- >> # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists >> if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then >> PATH="$HOME/

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

Hi, On Wed, 9 Aug 2017 03:11:48 +0800 spp mg wrote: > Hi all > > In the ~/.profile has below default setting: > > -- > # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists > if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then > PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" > fi > -- > > Why put ~/bin begi

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

Le duodi 22 thermidor, an CCXXV, spp mg a écrit : > Why put ~/bin beginning ? Is that dangerous ? No. -- Nicolas George

Re: Why debian put ~/bin beginning of $PATH

On 09/08/17 05:11, spp mg wrote: > In the ~/.profile has below default setting: > > -- > # set PATH so it includes user's private bin if it exists > if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then > PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH" > fi > -- > > Why put ~/bin beginning ? So that your own stuff ha

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

cu...@free.fr wrote: >On 2015-06-15, Arno Schuring wrote: > >> It probably would but it looks like the sources are on separate DVDs >> (in the [..]/current/source directory) so they wouldn't show up when >> grepping the amd64/list-dvd/ files. Either way you can verify the >> output by removing the

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

On 2015-06-15, Arno Schuring wrote: > It probably would but it looks like the sources are on separate DVDs > (in the [..]/current/source directory) so they wouldn't show up when > grepping the amd64/list-dvd/ files. Either way you can verify the > output by removing the postprocessing by the cut|

RE: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

Hi, > From: cu...@free.fr > Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 12:39:44 + > > On 2015-06-14, Arno Schuring wrote: >> >> $ wget >> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/list-dvd/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-{1..13}.list.gz >> [..] >> $ zgrep -E '^(stumpwm|cl-ppcre|sbcl|gcl|mpd|gmpc|feh|libtheora0)_

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

On 2015-06-14, Arno Schuring wrote: > >>> You don't need the source packages nor the ones for architectures other >>> than your own. >> >> Without having researched the question, is there a simple way >> of knowing which dvds contain what (a package list or something)? > > Yes, the list-cd/ and li

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

arnuld uttre wrote: > I wanted to download all Debian 8.1 DVD images at my friend's place because > I don't have net at home. but all I see are 3 DVD ISO images available on Have you considered using apt-offline? apt-cache show apt-offline apt-offline is an Offline APT Package Manager. a

RE: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

> From: cu...@free.fr > Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2015 18:12:11 + > On 2015-06-14, John Hasler wrote: >> arnuld uttre writes: >>> Well, I need many packages which normal users don't use, like stumpwm, >>> ppcre, sbcl, clisp, gcc, mpd, gmpc, feh, theora etc. I have used >>> Debian Sarge (and in those

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

On Sun, 2015-06-14 at 18:12 +, Curt wrote: > Without having researched the question, is there a simple way of > knowing > which dvds contain what (a package list or something)? Not a list, but this is handy: http://cdimage-search.debian.org/ -- Cheers, Sven Arvidsson http://www.whiz.se PGP

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

On 2015-06-14, John Hasler wrote: > arnuld uttre writes: >> Well, I need many packages which normal users don't use, like stumpwm, >> ppcre, sbcl, clisp, gcc, mpd, gmpc, feh, theora etc. I have used >> Debian Sarge (and in those days I only had CDs) and I noticed some >> package I wanted were only

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

arnuld uttre writes: > Well, I need many packages which normal users don't use, like stumpwm, > ppcre, sbcl, clisp, gcc, mpd, gmpc, feh, theora etc. I have used > Debian Sarge (and in those days I only had CDs) and I noticed some > package I wanted were only in last few CDs You don't need the sour

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

> On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater > wrote: > You probably don't need all DVD images - the first three should be enough to > build you a fairly complete > Debian system. > > The other DVDs include all the other packages - 40,000 or so in total - that > make up Debian but you

Re: Why Debian 8.1 has no torrents beyond first 3 DVD ISO images

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 09:45:24PM +0530, arnuld uttre wrote: > Hi All, > > I wanted to download all Debian 8.1 DVD images at my friend's place because > I don't have net at home. but all I see are 3 DVD ISO images available on > torrents, where as jigdo has available 13 DVD images: > > http://cd

Re: Why Debian

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 04:55:50PM -0500, Ric Moore wrote: > Mark kept threatening to shut down the email-based User list for > some time. At least that is what the moderators kept telling us. Do you mean listmasters here? Otherwise, the last bit doesn't make sense. IOW, if there are moderators th

Re: Why Debian

On 11/19/2013 03:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: When Ubuntu was new, they called me a troll when I said something about Mark Shuttleworth, but all I said became true :). I'm satisfied ;). We shoulda had a V-8 juice! One thing is for certain, This User list is 1000% better than the Ubunutu user l

Re: Why Debian

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:47:53 + Tom H napísal: >> >> AFAIK, if a package has "ubuntu" in its version name, it's been >> changed by the Ubuntu developers. > > Are you sure, that this is mark of changes? Are you checked the > changelog? It is not

Re: Why Debian

Hi, Dňa Wed, 20 Nov 2013 10:47:53 + Tom H napísal: > AFAIK, if a package has "ubuntu" in its version name, it's been > changed by the Ubuntu developers. Are you sure, that this is mark of changes? Are you checked the changelog? It is not necessary mark of changes in package, it is only mark

Re: Why Debian

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Wednesday 20 November 2013 13:52:02 Tom H wrote: >> >> it's not the most straightforward move from a user's perspective. > > From this user's perspective, it's a very good idea. I wasn't commenting on the goodness. :) I was just commenting

Re: Why Debian

On Wednesday 20 November 2013 13:52:02 Tom H wrote: > it's not the most straightforward move from a user's perspective. From this user's perspective, it's a very good idea. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact li

Re: Why Debian

On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 12:44 PM, wrote: > Le 19.11.2013 21:26, Nemeth Gyorgy a écrit : >> >> Actually it is not a distro fork. The pool of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, >> ubuntu is the same (the sources.list is the same for all). You >> can consider the different 'distributions' as different instal

Re: Why Debian

Le 19.11.2013 21:26, Nemeth Gyorgy a écrit : 2013-11-19 14:40 keltezéssel, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org írta: Do not take me wrong, I do not say that Debian is not as good or better that Ubuntu (I think it is better, especially in terms of flexibility: there are more than one DE maintained

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Slavko wrote: > Dňa Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:55:41 + Tom H napísal: >>> >>> I'm pleasantly surprised with just how similar Debian XFCE and >>> Xubuntu are, which makes me wonder if there are any major >>> differences at all. >> >> Please bottom post. >> >> Differe

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 10:46 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 21:55 +, Tom H wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alex Naysmith >> wrote: >>> I'm pleasantly surprised with just how similar Debian XFCE and Xubuntu are, >>> which makes me wonder if there are any major dif

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 19:10 -0600, Nate Bargmann wrote: > on my Xubuntu installations the launch bar at the bottom > of the screen is always 100% of the screen width. On Debian it is as > wide as the icons and no wider. Setting the Xubuntu Xfce settings to > match those on Debian results in no ch

Re: Why Debian

* On 2013 19 Nov 16:48 -0600, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > What should be different? Just the version and perhaps how some services > are started. It's the same for my Arch install and my FreeBSD install, > just the Xfce versions differ. Xfce is Xfce is Xfce. Interestingly, on my Xubuntu installations th

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 23:46 +0100, Slavko wrote: > I sometime somewhere read, that Ubuntu is 93 % of Debian and only rest > 7 % packages are changed/added. Debian binary packages for 32-bit architecture are build to run on older computers, than packages for Ubuntu, so they are at least rebuild fro

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 21:55 +, Tom H wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alex Naysmith > wrote: > > I'm pleasantly surprised with just how similar Debian XFCE and Xubuntu are, > > which makes me wonder if there are any major differences at all. > > Differences: upstart and plymouth; th

Re: Why Debian

Hi, Dňa Tue, 19 Nov 2013 21:55:41 + Tom H napísal: > > I'm pleasantly surprised with just how similar Debian XFCE and > > Xubuntu are, which makes me wonder if there are any major > > differences at all. > > Please bottom post. > > Differences: upstart and plymouth; the rest _might_ be qui

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Alex Naysmith wrote: > On 19 November 2013 20:13, Alois Mahdal > wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:40:57 +0100 >> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >>> >>> So, I think that the problems you had with untrusted packages >>> can be: >>> 1) your fault: did you insta

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 20:54 +, Alex Naysmith wrote: > Arch [...] can cause head-aches when Pacman -Syu makes significant > changes If so, then the problem exists between keyboard and chair. Before you run pacman -Syu (an update), you should take a look at the Arch homepage, no link on the home

Re: Why Debian

I previously used Xubuntu and was very happy with it until Software Centre superseded Synaptic as the default graphical package manager. Software Centre is just horrible and slow and no good for old computers. Arch takes too long to set up and can cause head-aches when Pacman -Syu makes significan

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 21:26 +0100, Nemeth Gyorgy wrote: > The pool of Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, ubuntu is the same That is correct, but the projects contribute to the pool. Ubuntu Studio is based on Xubuntu, but Ubuntu Studio e.g. contributes a customized main menu for this pool. Yes, you can inst

Re: Why Debian

2013-11-19 14:40 keltezéssel, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org írta: > Do not take me wrong, I do not say that Debian is not as good or better > that Ubuntu (I think it is better, especially in terms of flexibility: > there are more than one DE maintained in the distribution, instead of > having a di

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, 19 Nov 2013 14:40:57 +0100 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > So, I think that the problems you had with untrusted packages > can be: > 1) your fault: did you install the key? > 2) mate developer's fault, if they did not provided one. > 3) your package management software's fault. 4)

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM, wrote: > Le 19.11.2013 03:04, Tamer Higazi a écrit : >> >> 2. As well, specially the Gnome3 system ubuntu delivers by default makes >> me puke! > > This one is not. Ubuntu uses Unity as default DE, not gnome3. There was a > lot of noise about that new DE when the

Re: Why Debian

On Ma, 19 nov 13, 14:40:57, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > You could probably change the sources, and try an "upgrade" from > Ubuntu to Debian, too. This would probably need some tinkering or > web searching, but I bet it is doable. Doable? Probably. Recommended? Definitely not! Kind r

Re: Why Debian

Le 19.11.2013 03:04, Tamer Higazi a écrit : Serious answer "Why Debian and Not Ubuntu" ?! 1. Because I don't like a commercial sponsored operating system. How knows on what kind of stupid idea they come to collect data. This one is a valid point. 2. As well, specially the Gnome3 system ubuntu

Re: Why Debian

On 19/11/13 18:03, Robert Holtzman wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:04:12AM +0100, Tamer Higazi wrote: >> Serious answer "Why Debian and Not Ubuntu" ?! >> >> >> If ever insalling ubuntu again, I'll choose "xubuntu", but that won't >> happen. Why? At the first Debian Installer screen:-

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 03:04:12AM +0100, Tamer Higazi wrote: > Serious answer "Why Debian and Not Ubuntu" ?! > > 1. Because I don't like a commercial sponsored operating system. > How knows on what kind of stupid idea they come to collect data. > > 2. As well, specially the Gnome3 system ubuntu

Re: Why Debian

On Monday, November 18, 2013 09:04:12 PM Tamer Higazi wrote: > 1. Because I don't like a commercial sponsored operating system. > How knows on what kind of stupid idea they come to collect data. To me, this is a point that is not emphasized enough. With the NSA revelations that Microsoft, A

Re: Why Debian

Serious answer "Why Debian and Not Ubuntu" ?! 1. Because I don't like a commercial sponsored operating system. How knows on what kind of stupid idea they come to collect data. 2. As well, specially the Gnome3 system ubuntu delivers by default makes me puke! 3. The installer is full of advertisin

Re: Why Debian

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 10:48:26 -0600 Conrad Nelson wrote: ... > for you what you want, unlike Canonical in Ubuntu. For a very long time > I used Arch, then Gentoo, and am still a big fan of both, since as far > as choices and flexibility go they are leagues ahead of anything Debian > could pull

Re: Why Debian

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Re: Why Debian

On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 22:41 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Fri, 2013-11-15 at 13:25 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > > checkinstall > > I can't answer your question, but I love checkinstall :). Unfortunately > checkinstall doesn't work always. PS: "Make love, not install!" - A quote from somebody

Re: Why Debian

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Re: Why Debian

Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 17:15 +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: Is there a better distro for managing source-based in installs from upstream (and I'm not talking Gentoo, where Portage is a packaging system for source code - I'm talking semi-automatic management and updates from u

Re: Why Debian

On Tue, 2013-11-12 at 23:41 -0200, André Nunes Batista wrote: > On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Nelson wrote: > > Please understand I think FOSS is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT and VERY high > > quality. I certainly appreciate it myself as a programmer. My point is > > more toward the usability

Re: Why Debian

On Sun, 2013-11-10 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Nelson wrote: > Please understand I think FOSS is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT and VERY high > quality. I certainly appreciate it myself as a programmer. My point is > more toward the usability and perception issues that often plague many > Linux distributions, d

Re: Why Debian

On Lu, 11 nov 13, 15:09:31, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > Mine have only two reply functions ( roundcube ): Really? Your User-Agents says Thuderbird :) > "reply to" which reply only to sender > "reply to all" which, for the ml, reply to the whole ml. > > It sounds like a pretty good

Re: Why Debian

On Sb, 09 nov 13, 23:15:52, Lisi Reisz wrote: > I rapidly realised, however, that there is a very simple solution. I > open the box, insert an old ethernet card, do my network installation, > load the drivers for the card(s) belonging to the box, remove the old > card. There's a netinstall CD

Re: Why Debian

Ralf Mardorf wrote at 2013-11-11 10:50 -0600: > Arch Linux, it has a binary package management like Debian has got and > build ports like FreeBSD has got and a so called user repository with > packagebuilds, that easily can be modified by the user. That was some interesting notes about Arch Linux,

Re: Why Debian

On Sat, 09 Nov 2013 08:09:24 + xavi wrote: > I use Debian because Debian is like an old good car. Easy to open and > see how it's mounted. Without too much customization. Without too much Just don't try to ask an exim question on upstream's list ;) Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Why Debian

On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 17:15 +, Karl E. Jorgensen wrote: > > Is there a better distro for managing > > source-based in installs from upstream (and I'm not talking Gentoo, > > where Portage is a packaging system for source code - I'm talking > > semi-automatic management and updates from upstream

Re: Why Debian

Hi On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 11:11:07AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > Mihamina RKTMB wrote: > > > >1°) > >I use Debian over Ubuntu only for servers. > >I co-manage more or less 200 servers (6 persons team) > >Keeping "supported" would be a PITA with the 6 month release schedule. > >One could always

Re: Why Debian

On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 11:11 -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: > If one is managing systems where a LOT (even most, or all) software is > built from source - is Debian still the best distribution. Is there a > better distro for managing source-based in installs from upstream (and > I'm not talking Gento

Re: Why Debian

Mihamina RKTMB wrote: 1°) I use Debian over Ubuntu only for servers. I co-manage more or less 200 servers (6 persons team) Keeping "supported" would be a PITA with the 6 month release schedule. One could always advise to stay with LTS, but that would be equivalent to Debian. 2°) I have to sel

Re: Why Debian

On 11/08/2013 08:57 PM, Alberto Salvia Novella wrote: Which are the very important reasons why do you prefer Debian over Ubuntu? 1°) I use Debian over Ubuntu only for servers. I co-manage more or less 200 servers (6 persons team) Keeping "supported" would be a PITA with the 6 month release sc

Re: Why Debian

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:40 AM, Beco wrote: > > On 8 Nov 2013 14:15, "Alberto Salvia Novella" > wrote: > > Summarizing: > > > > Which are the very important reasons why do you prefer Debian over > Ubuntu? > > > > > > Why to use a Debian based OS if you can use Debian? > > My best, > Beco. > Why

Re: Why Debian

Le 11.11.2013 14:42, Chris Bannister a écrit : On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 06:41:42PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: way: I always use reply all, and it does not seems to send mails to the sender too. Policy is to reply to list ONLY. On the other hand, if I use the normal reply, i

Re: Why Debian

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 06:41:42PM +0100, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > way: I always use reply all, and it does not seems to send mails to > the sender too. Policy is to reply to list ONLY. > On the other hand, if I use the normal reply, it only reply to the > sender. That is the exp

Re: Why Debian

Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:04:27PM +1100, David wrote: On 11 November 2013 02:17, thomas aylward wrote: how does a novice begin with debian? Tom In addition to other replies, a local linux user group can be a good source of inspiration and assistance. I'd say that in

Re: Why Debian

On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 06:26:08PM +0100, Slavko wrote: > then ask for CC is base way do get the responses. Please, do not use > the Reply to All, or use MUA, which can identify MLs and post replies ^^ That 'or' should be 'but' because it read as: " Please, do not use an

Re: Why Debian

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 01:04:27PM +1100, David wrote: > On 11 November 2013 02:17, thomas aylward wrote: > > > > how does a novice begin with debian? Tom > > In addition to other replies, a local linux user group can be a good > source of inspiration and assistance. I'd say that in order of ef

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