Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-08 Thread csj
On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 at 06:30:31 +0800, wrote: > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 at 11:17:10 +, > Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:19:45AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > > > OPTFLAGS = ... -I/usr/local/src/linux/include > > > > /usr/local/src/linux should be the linux kernel source

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-07 Thread csj
At Fri, 7 Nov 2003 11:17:10 +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:19:45AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > OPTFLAGS = ... -I/usr/local/src/linux/include > > /usr/local/src/linux should be the linux kernel source code. Apparently yes. I was doing things by trial and error and on

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-07 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 09:19:45AM +0800, csj wrote: > OPTFLAGS = ... -I/usr/local/src/linux/include /usr/local/src/linux should be the linux kernel source code. > Why > else would the mplayer developers look for their headers by > default in /usr/include/linux/? /usr/include/linux should be

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up [RESOLVED]

2003-11-06 Thread csj
On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 00:33:14 +, Colin Watson wrote: [...] > > > Applications that need kernel headers should make and use > > > sanitized private copies of the relevant interfaces in > > > kernel headers. They should never care about what happens > > > to be in /usr/include/{linux,asm}. > > >

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Marc Wilson
Ok, maybe I'm REALLY missing the signal in all the noise, but whyinhell are people having a problem with this? If an application needs kernel headers, whyinhell isn't it USING them? That, after all, is why you put a kernel source tree in place on your system. Any number of packages depend on havi

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 05, 2003 at 05:48:59AM +0800, csj wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:04 +, > Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:47:17AM +0800, csj wrote: > > > Maybe it's time to file a serious bug report against > > > linux-kernel-headers. IMHO there should at least be two header >

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:00:32PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:37:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > That hierarchy [/usr/include/{linux,asm}] is chiefly for glibc's > > internal use; applications were never supposed to use it directly. > > If these are supposed t

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 16:37:04 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:47:17AM +0800, csj wrote: > > Maybe it's time to file a serious bug report against > > linux-kernel-headers. IMHO there should at least be two header > > packages, one for 2.4 and another for 2.6. One could be

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 20:36:21 +1100, Rob Weir wrote: [...] > > Xine also fails to compile (ditto nvrec, a low overhead > > recording program). My conclusion: all video applications > > are affected. > > Eh? The only things that could possibly be affected are those > using kernel headers because

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 04:37:04PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > That hierarchy [/usr/include/{linux,asm}] is chiefly for glibc's > internal use; applications were never supposed to use it directly. If these are supposed to be private, why are they now provided in a seperate package? -- Jon Dowl

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:12:07PM +0100, wsa wrote: > Every time i start to think 'i'm getting the hang of linux' things > like this happen...lib stuff...compile stuff...at times i think i need > spiked mountain shoes to climb the learning curve ;) if you run unstable, you can get exactly what

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 09:47:17AM +0800, csj wrote: > Maybe it's time to file a serious bug report against > linux-kernel-headers. IMHO there should at least be two header > packages, one for 2.4 and another for 2.6. One could be > installed by default, but if that breaks your system you could >

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread csj
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 00:10:49 +0100, wsa wrote: > Well, I'm having serious problems with Mplayer, actually with > mencoder to be exact. I have a load of automated 'vcr' > recording scripts. These scripts have always worked and have > given out the right kind of files with the right kind of > bitr

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:30:47AM +0800, csj said > At Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:12:07 +0100, > wsa wrote: > > > > Thanks for explaining this in the other thread aswell. What i > > wanted to ask, could this package be the cause of custom 2.4.22 > > kernels not going past INIT (today's update fixed thi

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:53:35AM +0800, csj wrote: > On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:03:30 +, > Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:52:16PM +0800, csj wrote: > > > What precisely does this package do? It's listed as a dependency > > > of the latest libc6 packages (which I made the mista

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 06:30:47AM +0800, csj wrote: > At Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:12:07 +0100, > wsa wrote: > > And last question, if this new splitting stuff causes breakage > > who will solve this? is this a debian issue, a linux issue or > > should the sources of for example mplayer be changed? > >

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 10:12:07PM +0100, wsa wrote: > Thanks for explaining this in the other thread aswell. > What i wanted to ask, could this package be the cause of custom 2.4.22 > kernels not going past INIT (today's update fixed this problem) which > i and a few other people experienced over

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread wsa
Well, I'm having serious problems with Mplayer, actually with mencoder to be exact. I have a load of automated 'vcr' recording scripts. These scripts have always worked and have given out the right kind of files with the right kind of bitrate(given in the script) correct timings, correct audio...

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread csj
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 17:03:30 +, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:52:16PM +0800, csj wrote: > > What precisely does this package do? It's listed as a dependency > > of the latest libc6 packages (which I made the mistake of > > compiling then installing). > > It includes the f

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread csj
At Mon, 03 Nov 2003 22:12:07 +0100, wsa wrote: > > Thanks for explaining this in the other thread aswell. What i > wanted to ask, could this package be the cause of custom 2.4.22 > kernels not going past INIT (today's update fixed this problem) > which i and a few other people experienced over th

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread wsa
Thanks for explaining this in the other thread aswell. What i wanted to ask, could this package be the cause of custom 2.4.22 kernels not going past INIT (today's update fixed this problem) which i and a few other people experienced over the last weekend? The original poster mentioned both mplayer

Re: linux-kernel-headers foul-up

2003-11-03 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:52:16PM +0800, csj wrote: > What precisely does this package do? It's listed as a dependency > of the latest libc6 packages (which I made the mistake of > compiling then installing). It includes the files in /usr/include/linux and /usr/include/asm which used to be part