Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 13 March 2015 19:51:36 Ric Moore wrote: > On 03/13/2015 07:39 PM, Doug wrote: > > On 03/13/2015 04:49 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:35:34AM +0200, Rani Ahmed wrote: > >>> Hello mailing list! Which plotter printer would you recommend for > >>> construction

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Joe
On Fri, 13 Mar 2015 19:47:16 -0400 shawn wilson wrote: > On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Doug > wrote: > > > Another reason to buy the HP: if they are abundant, then inks > > should be abundantly available also. If you get something else, > > supplies might be difficult to come by in such an o

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/13/2015 07:39 PM, Doug wrote: On 03/13/2015 04:49 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:35:34AM +0200, Rani Ahmed wrote: Hello mailing list! Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux? Such device is usually used to pri

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread shawn wilson
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:39 PM, Doug wrote: > Another reason to buy the HP: if they are abundant, then inks should be > abundantly available also. If you get something else, supplies might be > difficult to come by in such an out-of-the-way area. Something to > check out before you commit! > He

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread shawn wilson
On Mar 13, 2015 5:41 PM, "Ric Moore" wrote: > > > You might want to go at this from another direction. I suppose you have > already chosen your software?? Ask them. They would know better than anyone > what plotter works with their software. Ric > I agree with this. But besides that, even if y

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Doug
On 03/13/2015 04:49 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:35:34AM +0200, Rani Ahmed wrote: Hello mailing list! Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux? Such device is usually used to print big large huge maps. Of course the

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/13/2015 04:49 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:35:34AM +0200, Rani Ahmed wrote: Hello mailing list! Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux? Such device is usually used to print big large huge maps. Of course the

Re: Which plotter printer would you recommend for construction engineers who will be using Linux?

2015-03-13 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 11:35:34AM +0200, Rani Ahmed wrote: > Hello mailing list! Which plotter printer would you recommend for > construction engineers who will be using Linux? > > Such device is usually used to print big large huge maps. Of course the > plotter must be compatible with Linux. >

Re: Which way do you think is the best for Debian users to bypass GFW?

2015-02-16 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:41:50PM +0800, Jack Chuge wrote: > I'm living in Mainland, China, it's not my fault. The most important thing > for ever since installing a new system for me must be finding out the way to > bypass the Great Fire Wall. It's not a joke. It's so boring remaining inside > th

Re: Which Debian category am I located?

2014-11-19 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 16/11/14 15:13, Clarence wrote: > There are tons of categories on Debian Mailing-List? > I forgot which one am I located, when I tried to search the archive. "located"??? Please explain - what area/usage of Debian are you interested in? If as a "user" of Debian (English) then you have the rig

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 09:40:48PM +0800, Trudi wrote: > Hi > I am using an ASUS Transformer Book. > Not only are there no useful manuals but also no help from Asus either online > OR by telephone, issues go unsolved. It's annoying since they are not cheap. > My issue is that the android/tablet pa

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-09 Thread David Dušanić
08.06.2014, 15:40, "Trudi" : > Hi > I am using an ASUS Transformer Book. > Not only are there no useful manuals but also no help from Asus either online > OR by telephone, issues go unsolved. It's annoying since they are not cheap. > My issue is that the android/tablet part of the Asus Transform

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-08 Thread Zhiqi Li
On 06/08/2014 09:40 PM, Trudi wrote: Hi I am using an ASUS Transformer Book. Not only are there no useful manuals but also no help from Asus either online OR by telephone, issues go unsolved. It's annoying since they are not cheap. My issue is that the android/tablet part of the Asus Transformer

Re: Which 'package' to choose for updating google chrome ?

2014-06-08 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 08 iun 14, 21:40:48, Trudi wrote: > > My issue is that the android/tablet part of the Asus Transformer keeps > saying google chrome needs updating. If your tablet is running Android then you have to update it using its usual mechanisms (whichever those might be, I'm not familiar with A

Re: Which file to initialize X? (was Re: Sawfish and Openbox: was fastest linux distro)

2014-06-06 Thread Filip
Joel Roth writes: > > I would be interested in having a summary. > > For my purposes, I use startx, and 'man startx' tells me to > put my initializations in .xinitrc, and does not refer > to any other init files. > > I used to have an .xsession file, which eventually stopped > working. > > 'man

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-27 Thread Brian
On Thu 27 Mar 2014 at 19:00:07 -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > I was surprised to find I could not get a jessie ISO. Ric We'd be amazed if you couldn't: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe".

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 03/27/2014 04:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 26 mar 14, 21:52:30, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:46:42AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2014/01/msg00063.html Thanks for this - I was unaware of it. I stand by what I said, t

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-27 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 26 mar 14, 21:52:30, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:46:42AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2014/01/msg00063.html > > > > Thanks for this - I was unaware of it. I stand by what I said, though I > do understand the issu

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-27 Thread Joe
On Wed, 26 Mar 2014 21:52:30 + "Andrew M.A. Cater" wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:46:42AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Du, 23 mar 14, 18:31:39, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 03:17:36PM +0100, Hans wrote: > > > > > > > Maybe I should suggest to use at leas

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-26 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 08:46:42AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 23 mar 14, 18:31:39, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 03:17:36PM +0100, Hans wrote: > > > > > Maybe I should suggest to use at least a newer kernel for installer CD's > > > to > > > the installer team? >

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 23 mar 14, 18:31:39, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: > On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 03:17:36PM +0100, Hans wrote: > > > Maybe I should suggest to use at least a newer kernel for installer CD's to > > the installer team? > > Please don't. The whole point of debian-stable is to remain stable through >

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-23 Thread Hans
> Please _don't_ suggest using Testing as someone's first experience with > Debian. Unless the hardware is less than six months old, it's unlikely that > any given Debian stable release won't work with it fairly well. The > exception is cuttiing edge CPU chipsets and packages which absolutely > re

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 03:17:36PM +0100, Hans wrote: > > You might need to use testing images before stable images, as stable might be > too old for your computer. > Please _don't_ suggest using Testing as someone's first experience with Debian. Unless the hardware is less than six months old

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-23 Thread Hans
> > If you have good (relatively fast) internet access, you can install using > the smaller netinst .iso - but that relies on network access to do > everything thereafter. > > lxde CD1 will install a fairly basic system with an LXDE desktop > environment. > > [The other CDs would allow you to a

Re: Which ISO image to download ?

2014-03-23 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sun, Mar 23, 2014 at 02:25:51PM +0530, Mohan Sai wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam: > I am new to debian and wish to try the lightweight LXDE version of > debian stable. Going through the website, I've found that there are > several CD iso images like > [ ] debian-7.4.0-i386-CD-1.iso2014-02-08

Re: which is the best lan messanger

2014-03-18 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Debian Admin wrote: > I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out > internet. ejabberd (XMPP) My 2¢, HTH Cheers, Nuno -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: which is the best lan messanger

2014-03-18 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 02:54:59PM +0530, Debian Admin wrote: >I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out >internet. >My requirement is  >        it should have centralized console to manage client users and >their chat logs like messenger server an

Re: which is the best lan messanger

2014-03-18 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 18/03/14 20:24, Debian Admin wrote: > I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out > internet. > My requirement is > > it should have centralized console to manage client users and > their chat logs like messenger server and client > chat log should

Re: which is the best lan messanger

2014-03-18 Thread Dmitrii Kashin
Debian Admin writes: > I would like to know which is the best and stable internal chat with out > internet. > My requirement is > > it should have centralized console to manage client users and their > chat logs like messenger server and client > chat log should be save in the ser

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2014-01-07 Thread Long Wind
On 1/7/14, Darac Marjal wrote: > > It's times like this that I really wish more people knew about the > multi-arch (i386/amd64) CD image. > > http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.3.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/ > > I assume there's a technical reason why there's not a multi-arch netinst > image, though. >

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2014-01-07 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:25:37PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 12/31/2013 12:08 PM, Long Wind wrote: > >I have just got a P4/2.9G computer > >it seems that my old 32bit(i386) software can't run on it > >it needs 64-bit software > > > >Shall I choose CD image from ia64? > >Thanks! > > Hi

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 31 December 2013 22:35:12 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Tuesday 31 December 2013 16:24:16 Long Wind wrote: > > "not enough memory to load specified image" is the exact words > > displayed on screen > > Which CD or DVD were you using? If you were trying to use the Live > DVD for your installati

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 31 December 2013 16:24:16 Long Wind wrote: > "not enough memory to load specified image" is the exact words > displayed on screen Which CD or DVD were you using? If you were trying to use the Live DVD for your installation, that might explain it, since it uses a lot of memory. Try

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Long Wind
"not enough memory to load specified image" is the exact words displayed on screen I google it, someone suggest change BIOS option: Chipset Features Setup -> Memory Hole but I can't find it on my computer maybe I shall update BIOS? It's too late and I have to go to bed Thank you! (It seems I am

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Tuesday 31 December 2013 11:53:38 Alex Moonshine wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:43:15 +0100 > > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > That's very strange. [...] > > > > No, it's not strange, the issues might be related to some > > hardware issue, e.g. a wrong graphics driver. > > > > The OP can use a sear

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 07:54 -0500, Long Wind wrote: > squeeze install CD complain that not enough memory to load specified > image At least squeeze isn't nearly 10 years old as your Suse media is. However, in general please take a pencil and a piece of paper and note exactly what messages you get,

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Long Wind
133x22.0 133 is about motherboard freq, it times 22.0, you get CPU freq Thank you! The problem seem to be memory squeeze install CD complain that not enough memory to load specified image but this is quite impossible 1 G memory (512M x 2) is shown during power on test and it can run Windows XP

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 07:13 -0500, Long Wind wrote: > 133x22.0 is about CPU freq > > it's shown during power on test screen On what test screen? Could you take a photo or screen shot, post it somewhere and send a link to the list? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.o

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 06:58 -0500, Long Wind wrote: > the disk with wheezy also has memtest > I run it, it finish very quickly ( about 1 second) > the PC has 1G memory > usually memtest take more than ten minutes I don't understand. Memtest86+ never finishes, the user has to stop it. FWIW only use

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Long Wind
133x22.0 is about CPU freq it's shown during power on test screen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAB-gxZBszONG4D2np4ishOHUQBQg0eq=eb8yvlwwjsnhwq5...

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 06:50 -0500, Long Wind wrote: > I have checked it again > it's P4/2.93 (133x22.0) And since Alex isn't mistaken, the Wiki isn't mistaken, the Debian port info isn't mistaken, nobody else is mistaken, the processor version isn't the cause for the issues you experienced. Wha

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Long Wind
the disk with wheezy also has memtest I run it, it finish very quickly ( about 1 second) the PC has 1G memory usually memtest take more than ten minutes On 12/31/13, Long Wind wrote: > I have checked it again > it's P4/2.93 (133x22.0) > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Alex Moonshine
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:43:15 +0100 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > That's very strange. [...] > > No, it's not strange, the issues might be related to some hardware > issue, e.g. a wrong graphics driver. > > The OP can use a search engine and learn how to provide more info, so > that the list is abl

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Long Wind
I have checked it again it's P4/2.93 (133x22.0) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAB-gxZAoh4j0iqCp=f4_duayce80eycyg2eprdoqe1da75q...@mail.gmail.com

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 13:29 +0200, Alex Moonshine wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 05:40:19 -0500 > Long Wind wrote: > > > I have run a squeeze i386 CD > > After selecting the first menu item "Install" the screen turn blank There could be different reasons for this. > > I have run a suse 9.3 instal

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Alex Moonshine
On Tue, 31 Dec 2013 05:40:19 -0500 Long Wind wrote: > I have run a squeeze i386 CD > After selecting the first menu item "Install" the screen turn blank > > I have run a suse 9.3 installation CD > it says I'm running 32-bit software on 64bit computer > > I have plugged hard disk with i386 whee

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
http://myonlineusb.wordpress.com/2011/06/08/what-is-the-difference-between-i386-i486-i586-i686-i786/ "i786 - Intel Pentium 4" this includes everything lower, IOW i386 too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 05:40 -0500, Long Wind wrote: > I have run a squeeze i386 CD > After selecting the first menu item "Install" the screen turn blank > > I have run a suse 9.3 installation CD > it says I'm running 32-bit software on 64bit computer > > I have plugged hard disk with i386 wheezy

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Long Wind
I have run a squeeze i386 CD After selecting the first menu item "Install" the screen turn blank I have run a suse 9.3 installation CD it says I'm running 32-bit software on 64bit computer I have plugged hard disk with i386 wheezy the new computer can't run wheezy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Tue, 2013-12-31 at 05:08 -0500, Long Wind wrote: > I have just got a P4/2.9G computer > it seems that my old 32bit(i386) software can't run on it > it needs 64-bit software > > Shall I choose CD image from ia64? 1. https://startpage.com Search for: debian for P4 Result: http://www.debian.org

Re: which image shall I use for P4/2.9G

2013-12-31 Thread Georgi Naplatanov
On 12/31/2013 12:08 PM, Long Wind wrote: I have just got a P4/2.9G computer it seems that my old 32bit(i386) software can't run on it it needs 64-bit software Shall I choose CD image from ia64? Thanks! Hi Long Wind, IA-64 architecture is for Intel Itanium processors. Pentium 4 processor is

Re: Which browsers support zone indices

2013-12-29 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi Rob van der Putten wrote: Sorry, I meant web browsers. I actually wrote browsers. Anyway, I was trying to avoid this; - Made a list of all FOSS cross platform browsers. - Looked at which ones are available as Debian package. - Installed them. - Tested them. Conclusion; No GUI browsers

Re: Which browsers support zone indices

2013-12-29 Thread Rob van der Putten
Hi there Scott Ferguson wrote: On 29/12/13 23:43, Rob van der Putten wrote: Which Debian packages support IPV6 Zone IDs? Sorry, I meant web browsers. Iceweasel Redirects to search page nmap Konqueror (webkit, so anything telnet or ftp using webkit) Complains about improperly format

Re: Which browsers support zone indices

2013-12-29 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 29/12/13 23:43, Rob van der Putten wrote: > Hi there > > > Which browsers support zone indices / IPv6 link-local addresses? > I know Lynx works. > > > Regards, > Rob > > Which Debian packages support IPV6 Zone IDs? Iceweasel nmap Konqueror (webkit, so anything telnet or ftp using webkit)

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 02:05:23PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > May be 3 years ago now, but I tried various options back then, and > mpop was the fastest (really fast compared to fetchmail) which did not > have other problems for me, at that time. Three years is a long time for a piece of softw

Re: which file should I download

2013-10-13 Thread Marko Randjelovic
On Fri, 11 Oct 2013 01:36:56 +0530 Anjan Mitra wrote: > debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso > >2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G > > debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso >

Re: which file should I download

2013-10-12 Thread Bob Proulx
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Anjan Mitra a écrit : > >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [1] 2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G > >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso [2] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G > >debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso [3] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G > >debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [4] 2013-06-16 05:34 2.9G

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-10 Thread Jochen Spieker
Celejar: > On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:08:41 +0200 > Jochen Spieker wrote: > >> (BTW, I had assumed fetchmail was dead while getmail is alive. It is >> actually the other way round!) > > Not exactly sure what you mean here, but getmail looks alive to me - the > latest version was released less than tw

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-10 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 11:08:41 +0200 Jochen Spieker wrote: ... > (BTW, I had assumed fetchmail was dead while getmail is alive. It is > actually the other way round!) Not exactly sure what you mean here, but getmail looks alive to me - the latest version was released less than two months ago: htt

Re: which file should I download

2013-10-10 Thread berenger . morel
Le 10.10.2013 22:06, Anjan Mitra a écrit : debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [1] 2013-06-16 01:39 3.7G debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso [2] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G debian-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso [3] 2013-06-16 01:39 4.4G debian-update-7.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso [4] 2013-06-16 05:34 2.9G Links: -- [1] h

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On 10/9/13, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:13:27 +0200 > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > ... > >> For the fetcher, I am surprised that debian does not seems to recommend >> or suggest using one, so I will not spend time on that -for now at >> least- and will do as the article say

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Joe
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 12:14:40 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > > By relay host, you mean the server from which I am sending this mail > ( through a web interface )? If so, yes, I only want to discuss with > it, except if there is some advantage ( for me or that server ) to > directly

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Robert Holtzman
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:35:41PM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > Le 09.10.2013 11:08, Jochen Spieker a écrit : .snip. > > >This is handy if you use several different mail > >providers > > Few months ago, I had something like 4 or 5 addresses. It was a ugl

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:10:15PM +, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > On Qua, 09 Out 2013, berenger.morel wrote: > >So, I think I'll go for mutt > > No one mentioned the simplest way: mutt now supports sending via > smtp directly: > http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Sendmail#HowdoIconfigure

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread peasthope
From: berenger.mo...@neutralite.org Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:13:27 +0200 > I use a tiling window managers: it will never spawn ugly dialog in > my face for a reason or another, and for the situations when I simply > want to run a TTY without X, it will fit perfectly too. Reminiscent of the

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread green
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote at 2013-10-08 20:13 -0500: > that it needs 2 other tools: one to fetch mails from server, and > another one to send them. mutt is capable of retrieving mail via IMAP or POP3. An alternative option is getmail4. You may want to use msmtp for sending mail. sign

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-09, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > > No one mentioned the simplest way: mutt now supports sending via smtp > directly: > http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Sendmail#HowdoIconfigureMutttousearemoteSMTPservertosendmail Oh I didn't realize mutt couldn't do that like (al)pine (before

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread D.E. Bil
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 02:16:20PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:02:09PM +0300, D.E. Bil wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:13:27AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > > wrote: > > > What would you use as a MTA on a Debian system made for an end-user? > > > > m

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
On Qua, 09 Out 2013, berenger.morel wrote: So, I think I'll go for mutt No one mentioned the simplest way: mutt now supports sending via smtp directly: http://dev.mutt.org/trac/wiki/MuttFaq/Sendmail#HowdoIconfigureMutttousearemoteSMTPservertosendmail Since it also supports IMAP accounts (

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-09, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > > I still advise anyone to run a local MTA, even if only for mails from > cron etc. But that is a matter of taste. That's what I told the OP. > There are hooks which let you re-configure arbitrary configuration items > for certain events. Yes, very flexi

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
I recommend exim. I've used it for >10 years. It is heavy-weight for desktops/laptops, but the Debian packaging around it makes such configuration situations a lot simpler. (The same packaging gets in the way of running exim on a server, IMHO). In the past I've tried simple MTAs designed for deskt

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 01:02:09PM +0300, D.E. Bil wrote: > On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:13:27AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > What would you use as a MTA on a Debian system made for an end-user? > > mutt > fetchmail > procmail Not MTAs… I guess you're going one further and sugges

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
Curt: > On 2013-10-09, Jochen Spieker wrote: >> >> SMTP is still the most common way to send e-mails (even if the user >> doesn't see it). Some IMAP servers can send e-mails on their users' >> behalf when mails are save into a special folder, but not all servers do >> that. > > What? I use SMTP.

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-09, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > I am trying to put myself into that world of local mail clients, so I > can not say if it does or not :) > There seems to be some confusion, as always. I use alpine. Alpine sends my mail through my "smart host" (smtp.free.fr). Or any oth

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.10.2013 14:05, Curt a écrit : What use do you find for an MTA if you're using IMAP? I do not know, really. I simply have read here and there that it was needed, and since I have noticed so much choice in aptitude, I asked here to understand what solution would be the best. If it is to

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-09, Jochen Spieker wrote: > > > SMTP is still the most common way to send e-mails (even if the user > doesn't see it). Some IMAP servers can send e-mails on their users' > behalf when mails are save into a special folder, but not all servers do > that. What? I use SMTP. You don't need

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
Curt: > On 2013-10-09, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org > wrote: >>> >>> - How do I plan to access mails using mutt (IMAP or local storage?) >> >> IMAP. Local storage is probably nice for some uses, but I'll be honest: >> I can not see the interest of reading all my mails without Internet >> acc

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/9/2013 5:48 AM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Le 09.10.2013 04:48, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/8/2013 9:13 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hi. I finally decided myself to install a software to manage my mails. So, I think I'll go for mutt: it appears quite often on th

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-09, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: >> >> - How do I plan to access mails using mutt (IMAP or local storage?) > > IMAP. Local storage is probably nice for some uses, but I'll be honest: > I can not see the interest of reading all my mails without Internet > access. I do not say

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: > Le 09.10.2013 11:08, Jochen Spieker a écrit : >> berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: >> >> - How do I plan to access mails using mutt (IMAP or local storage?) > > IMAP. Then the rest is really easy. Just point mutt to that IMAP server and install+configure one of the

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.10.2013 11:08, Jochen Spieker a écrit : berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: I finally decided myself to install a software to manage my mails. Good luck! My impression is that this is one of the few things that have not become considerably easier on Linux in the last ten years. Mutt is st

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: > Le 09.10.2013 04:57, Celejar a écrit : >> >> Assuming you're using a smarthost (relay host), you >> can use a relay server such as ssmpt, msmtp or nullmailer which I >> believe all meet these two conditions. > > By relay host, you mean the server from which I am s

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.10.2013 04:57, Celejar a écrit : What would you use as a MTA on a Debian system made for an end-user? I've used Exim, basically because it's (was?) the Debian default. I do not want a default software just because it is the default. Otherwise I would have be perfectly happy with wind

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread D.E. Bil
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:13:27AM +0200, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > So, here is my question: > What would you use as a MTA on a Debian system made for an end-user? mutt fetchmail procmail msmtp Check out http://www.debianuserforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=2470&sid=59292ed303dca923461

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread berenger . morel
Le 09.10.2013 04:48, Jerry Stuckle a écrit : On 10/8/2013 9:13 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hi. I finally decided myself to install a software to manage my mails. So, I think I'll go for mutt: it appears quite often on the list ( so I might ask if I have problems, before trying a

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-09 Thread Jochen Spieker
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org: > > I finally decided myself to install a software to manage my mails. Good luck! My impression is that this is one of the few things that have not become considerably easier on Linux in the last ten years. Mutt is still a good choice today if you can live with the

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-08 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 09 Oct 2013 03:13:27 +0200 berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: ... > For the fetcher, I am surprised that debian does not seems to recommend > or suggest using one, so I will not spend time on that -for now at > least- and will do as the article says, unless I discover something > int

Re: which MTA to choose for a simple client?

2013-10-08 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/8/2013 9:13 PM, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: Hi. I finally decided myself to install a software to manage my mails. So, I think I'll go for mutt: it appears quite often on the list ( so I might ask if I have problems, before trying another one when everything will be ok ) and runs

Re: which program can reduce quality of mp3

2013-09-12 Thread Long Wind
mp3 can be played on Linux, Windows and cell phones which player can play Opus? On 9/12/13, Kelly Clowers wrote: >> > Agreed. Opus will be vastly superior at such low bitrates > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contac

Re: which program can reduce quality of mp3

2013-09-12 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
Vlc has opus support since version 2 also can do decode/re-ecode from whatever. Also mp3 playback is not a given on linux nor older versions of windows Long Wind wrote: >mp3 can be played on Linux, Windows and cell phones >which player can play Opus? > > > >On 9/12/13, Kelly Clowers wrote: >>>

Re: which program can reduce quality of mp3

2013-09-12 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Joel Wirāmu Pauling wrote: > MP3 is notoriously bad for low Bitrate audio. Look at Opus and/or Speex > encoding. > > > On 12 September 2013 11:35, Long Wind wrote: > >> I use the command below: >> >> lame --mp3input --preset 30 input.mp3 output.mp3 >> >> Thank you

Re: which program can reduce quality of mp3

2013-09-11 Thread Celejar
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 16:48:41 -0400 Long Wind wrote: > the mp3 file is too big, 128kbps > I want to reduce it to 40kbps avconv (or ffmpeg) Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Ar

Re: which program can reduce quality of mp3

2013-09-11 Thread Joel Wirāmu Pauling
MP3 is notoriously bad for low Bitrate audio. Look at Opus and/or Speex encoding. On 12 September 2013 11:35, Long Wind wrote: > I use the command below: > > lame --mp3input --preset 30 input.mp3 output.mp3 > > Thank you! > > > On 9/11/13, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:4

Re: which program can reduce quality of mp3

2013-09-11 Thread Long Wind
I use the command below: lame --mp3input --preset 30 input.mp3 output.mp3 Thank you! On 9/11/13, Patrick Wiseman wrote: > On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Long Wind wrote: >> the mp3 file is too big, 128kbps >> I want to reduce it to 40kbps >> >> Thanks! > > I use lame to reduce stereo mp3 fi

Re: which program can reduce quality of mp3

2013-09-11 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 4:48 PM, Long Wind wrote: > the mp3 file is too big, 128kbps > I want to reduce it to 40kbps > > Thanks! I use lame to reduce stereo mp3 files to mono; it (as one might expect) halves the filesize. Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.or

Re: which package is involed for this bug ?

2013-07-16 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:37:28 -0500, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: >r...@libertysurf.fr, 15.07.2013: >> Hello, >> I installed wheezy, tried gnome but apparently it does not seem to >> be very well designed for 2 screens. So I am using gnome classic, >> which is very nice. I have a problem with resizing

Re: which package is involed for this bug ?

2013-07-16 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
r...@libertysurf.fr, 15.07.2013: > Hello, > I installed wheezy, tried gnome but apparently it does not seem to be very > well designed for 2 screens. So I am using gnome classic, which is very nice. > I have a problem with resizing the borders however : the border responsive > for click and dra

Re: Which imap server can I use

2013-05-02 Thread Mérof 42
Thanks you all for your response, and sorry for my late response, usually it take a lot of time to have an answers but on this mailing list it's really fast :) I dont have any specific requirements, I install this imap server only for myself. I'll start to read some tutorial about dovecot, it see

Re: Which imap server can I use

2013-04-29 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 02:44:54PM CEST, Erwan David said: > On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 02:30:04PM CEST, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI > said: > > On Seg, 29 Abr 2013, Mérof 42 wrote: > > >Hi all, > > > > > >I'm looking for install a imap server to make my own mailserver and my own > > >webmail with roundcu

Re: Which imap server can I use

2013-04-29 Thread Erwan David
On Mon, Apr 29, 2013 at 02:30:04PM CEST, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI said: > On Seg, 29 Abr 2013, Mérof 42 wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >I'm looking for install a imap server to make my own mailserver and my own > >webmail with roundcube > > > >For snmp, I want to use Postfix, because I used it some years ag

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