Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-25 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Daniel! On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 09:14:10PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 03:00:52PM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:54:55PM -0700, Daniel Burrows > wrote: > > > > In the real world, nobody I know has got any

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-23 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 03:00:52PM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:54:55PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > In the real world, nobody I know has got any sort of GNU/Linux > > > installed and working in a few days. Most have tried and giv

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-23 Thread Mark Grieveson
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 16:16:00 + (UTC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Anyhow, I've got my aptitude working again, and I'm profoundly > grateful for the help you and others gave me. The essential problem > was having "stable" instead of "sarge" in my sources.list. Sometime > or other, I will be upg

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-23 Thread Damon L. Chesser
On Monday 23 June 2008 11:00:52 am Alan Mackenzie wrote: > Hi, Daniel! > > On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:54:55PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > [ ] > > > Just to be a little more clear, you can find out exactly what aptitude > > thinks by examining the status flags on the left-hand side of the

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-23 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Daniel! On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 08:54:55PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: [ ] > Just to be a little more clear, you can find out exactly what aptitude > thinks by examining the status flags on the left-hand side of the > package list. Normally packages have flags like this: > pi packag

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 02:44:58PM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:57:45PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:22:24PM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL > > PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > > > > #Broken: 12 Will fr

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Eduardo! On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 01:40:55PM -0300, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote: > Alan Mackenzie escreveu: > >My /etc/apt/source.list now looks like this: > ># > >#deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib >

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-20 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
Alan Mackenzie escreveu: Hi, again! On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:48:02AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: To know what is going on with your system, we would need to see your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences files. #/etc/apt/sources.list: ###

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, again! On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:48:02AM +, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > > To know what is going on with your system, we would need to see your > > /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/preferences files. > #/etc/apt/sources.list: > #

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi, Daniel! On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:57:45PM -0700, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:22:24PM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > was heard to say: > > #Broken: 12 Will free 16.7MB of disk space DL Size: 6215kB > > . Using the aptitude command `find broken', it

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-20 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 10:48:02AM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:47:35PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > > I suspect that your attempt to upgrade python broke your system. If you > > are not an expert with Debian, it is best to stick with a sin

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-20 Thread Alan Mackenzie
Hi again, On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 08:47:35PM -0500, Mumia W.. wrote: > On 06/19/2008 02:22 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: > >Hi, debian! > >My system: Debian Sarge, with little alteration other than a kernel > >upgrade (to 2.6.8). > >I currently have aptitude 0.2.15.9 compiled at Apr 7 2005 13:32:48

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-19 Thread Mumia W..
On 06/19/2008 02:22 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote: Hi, debian! My system: Debian Sarge, with little alteration other than a kernel upgrade (to 2.6.8). I currently have aptitude 0.2.15.9 compiled at Apr 7 2005 13:32:48. I am having severe problems with it, and have become totally confused. I start

Re: Total confusion with aptitude. Help, please!

2008-06-19 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Thu, Jun 19, 2008 at 07:22:24PM +, Alan Mackenzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > #Broken: 12 Will free 16.7MB of disk space DL Size: 6215kB > > . Using the aptitude command `find broken', it reports, amongst others, > vim as being broken, giving as further details: > > *

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread David L. Craig
Bruce wrote: > Youngsters! What is this world coming to, never heard of a comm prg, > probably don't know what x/y/zmodem and kermit are either. ;) > > just for the fun of it... > I can dial in and read my mail/surf-the-web using a C64 and a comm > program, and if my ZX81 was still working I co

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread D-Man
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:36:24PM -0400, D-Man wrote: | | [ | Aside : Not to start a MUA war, but could you ditch Eudora? It | seems to work rather badly with replying to a mailing list. I | notice that all your posts break the threading displayed in mutt, | so I find it hard to

Re: [users] Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Joost Kooij (on Mon, 02 Jul 2001 09:26:39PM +0200): > On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:36:24PM -0400, D-Man wrote: > > apt-get remove --purge wvdial minicom > ^^ > dpkg --purge wvdial minicom > ^^ dpkg -P wvdial minicom > Less typing. ^^^ c

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread D-Man
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:19:25PM -0600, Bruce Sass wrote: | On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, D-Man wrote: | > | > As Wayne mentioned, minicom and wvdial aren't supposed to authenticate | > or maintain a ppp connection, that is pppd's job :-). minicom is an | > _interactive_ dialer. | | Minicom is a "termin

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread Joost Kooij
On Mon, Jul 02, 2001 at 01:36:24PM -0400, D-Man wrote: > apt-get remove --purge wvdial minicom ^^ dpkg --purge wvdial minicom ^^ Less typing. Cheers, Joost

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread Bruce Sass
On Mon, 2 Jul 2001, D-Man wrote: > On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > | For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks > | ago, here is a statement of the problem and solution. > > | After following all suggestions offered here and consulting with a

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread D-Man
[ Aside : Not to start a MUA war, but could you ditch Eudora? It seems to work rather badly with replying to a mailing list. I notice that all your posts break the threading displayed in mutt, so I find it hard to follow the discussion because it is broken up with lots of mes

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-02 Thread D-Man
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: | For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks | ago, here is a statement of the problem and solution. | After following all suggestions offered here and consulting with a | computer technician, the conclusion was

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread John Hasler
Wayne Topa writes: > ...I would suggest that you download pppconfig,... He already has it. It is in base. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Wayne Topa
Subject: Re. Total Confusion Date: Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700 In reply to:Sidney Brooks Quoting Sidney Brooks([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks ago, here > is a statement of the problem and solution. >

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
On 1 Jul 2001, John Hasler wrote: > Sidney Brooks writes: > > Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack > > that tries to avoid making you set up pon. Actually, 'twas I who wrote that. > > This is not true. Wvdial includes some rather sophisticated > autoconfigurat

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
[some extra quoting added, because your mailer doesn't and it would be confusing as to what were your words and what were others' words.] On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 08:21:07AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: >> 2.) It's been a long time since I used minicom, but am I totally wrong in >> thinking it's a

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread John Hasler
Sidney Brooks writes: > Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack > that tries to avoid making you set up pon. This is not true. Wvdial includes some rather sophisticated autoconfiguration code and does a much better job of finding the modem and creating init strings

Re: [users] Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Martin F. Krafft
also sprach Sidney Brooks (on Sun, 01 Jul 2001 08:21:07AM -0700): >Minicom has a dial function. It is not a terminal emulator. it's still a terminal emulator. the dial function was added because one primary use of terminal emulators was BBS. >I have already answered this question

Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
Answers to questions posed. 1.) Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack that tries to avoid making you set up pon. It may be a personal peculiarity, but I like everything to work. 2.) It's been a long time since I used minicom, but am I totally wrong in think

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Andrew Perrin
1.) Why would you want to use wvdial when pon works? wvdial is just a hack that tries to avoid making you set up pon. 2.) It's been a long time since I used minicom, but am I totally wrong in thinking it's a terminal emulator? I don't think it's supposed to do ppp of any sort to begin with. What a

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread John Hasler
Sidney Brooks writes: > pppconfig will not solve my minicom and wvdial problem. pppconfig enables > pon to work and get me on line now. If you feel you must use wvdial, look at /etc/chatscripts/provider and /etc/ppp/peers/provider to see how pppconfig has configured the connection. That may give

Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
The lilo problem is solved . I unintentionally typed something into password that I intended for another line. pppconfig will not solve my minicom and wvdial problem. pppconfig enables pon to work and get me on line now.

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 08:05:33AM -0500, ktb wrote: > Have you tried running pppconfig to set up your modem? On the redhat > side look in /etc/lilo.conf for a line starting with password= > I if is there, comment it out or delete it if you don't want password > protection. Strange that it asks f

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread ktb
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks ago, here > is a statement of the problem and solution. > I have Windows98, Redhat linux, and Debian linux on my hard disk. Until > last summer, I could get online wi

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Joost Kooij
On Sun, Jul 01, 2001 at 02:49:43AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > I still have two minor problems that I may be able to work out myself. In > order to get on line with Debian, I must use ppp. Minicom and wvdial Did you try it with pppconfig, debian's ppp "wizard", yet? > connect but fail to auth

Re. Total Confusion

2001-07-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
For those of you who tried to help with my problem, several weeks ago, here is a statement of the problem and solution. I have Windows98, Redhat linux, and Debian linux on my hard disk. Until last summer, I could get online with all three. During the summer something happened and only Windows co

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 10:47:32AM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered: > Using wvdial and minicom, I get connected, but then something happens and I > do not get on the internet. wvdial keeps redialing, minicom stays where it > is. ppp is apparently properly installed, judging by the relative logs, but

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Sidney Brooks
Eamon Roque asked: Nonetheless: what does your authentification process look like? Do you require the host to authenticate itself, do you agree on a protocol ( usually in /etc/ppp/options )? The following is a list of uncommented things in /etc/ppp/options: auth crtscts

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Sidney Brooks
Kent West has suggested as a help to my would be helpers, I summarize where I stand now. The printer problem in Debian has been solved, with the explanation that I gave in an earlier posting. Briefly what happened was that lilo put the Redhat kernel into the Debian startup. My internet probl

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Sidney Brooks
John Hasler wrote; This, however, is proof that you have both the kernel ppp driver and the pppd daemon installed and working. I'd guess from what you have posted that you have been configuring for CHAT authentication and your ISP wants you to use PAP. Does the line of meaningless symbols include

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Mon, Jun 04, 2001 at 03:38:25AM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered: > > I obviously do not understand file /boot/vmlinuz- because I could not > make it work. > Whoops. I should have been more clear. file /boot/vmlinuz- (here, you press tab) --

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Sidney Brooks
More answers. For Eamon Roque The last line of /etc/ppp/pap-secrets does in fact have username*password, both of which are correct. For Steve Kowalik file /boot/vmlinuz gave me: vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17 As I comparison, I did the same thing on my Redhat partition

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Eamon Roque
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 12:40:55AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > I do not have an /etc/isdn directory, which makes sense since I do not have > an isdn connection. sorry :) my bad. Nonetheless: what does your authentification process look like? Do you require the host to authenticate itself, do

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Kent West
Sidney Brooks wrote: In case it may be of help to someone in the future, this is how I got into my printer troubles. I installed Windows98, Redhat 6.2, and Debian Potato on three separate partitions of my hard drive. I dutifully made boot floppies for Redhat and Debian. However, Redhat gives

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Kent West
Sidney Brooks wrote: More answers. For Eamon Roque The last line of /etc/ppp/pap-secrets does in fact have username*password, both of which are correct. For Steve Kowalik file /boot/vmlinuz gave me: vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.2.19pre17 As I comparison, I did the same thing on my R

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Paul Wright
On Tue, 05 Jun 2001 10:47:32 PDT, Sidney wrote: > > Given that this is a problem common to all versions of linux, it does not > seem that the solution is in editing any ppp file. It almost seems that > there is a failure in some part of the hardware whose only effect is to > prevent linux from

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread Robert Ruzbacky
In your /etc/ppp/options file, try changing auth to noauth. This means you don't have to authenticate yourself to the server. Rob.. - Original Message - From: "Sidney Brooks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 4:18 AM Subject: Re. Total Conf

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-07 Thread csj
On Wednesday 06 June 2001 02:18, Sidney Brooks wrote: > Eamon Roque asked: > > Nonetheless: what does your authentification process look like? Do > you require the host to authenticate itself, do you agree on a > protocol ( usually in /etc/ppp/options )? > > The following is a list of uncommented t

Re: Total Confusion End

2001-06-07 Thread Kent West
Sidney Brooks wrote: I have tried every suggestion posted on this web site, including the latest by csj and Robert Ruzback. It seems that I have two choices: give up on linux or buy a new computer. Since my computer is less than two years old, I do not plan to buy a new computer soon. Redh

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-04 Thread John Hasler
Sidney Brooks writes: > I can only use wvdial since pon won't work even though ppp is > installed. pppconfig works which should be further proof that ppp is > installed. No it isn't. > With wvdial, I do not stay connected long enough to run any of > your tests. The relevant sequence is: >

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-04 Thread Sidney Brooks
t 03:14 PM 6/4/01 +1000, you wrote: On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:04:43AM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx uttered: > What is the output of "ls -l /vmlinuz" on your Debian root partition? > file /boot/vmlinuz- Would also be very helpful. That will tell which version of the kernel you are running. But, a fub

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-04 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 09:04:43AM -0400, Jonathan D. Proulx uttered: > What is the output of "ls -l /vmlinuz" on your Debian root partition? > file /boot/vmlinuz- Would also be very helpful. That will tell which version of the kernel you are running. But, a fubar lilo config, more than anything so

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Sidney Brooks
Andrew Perrin asked: - What's the output of lsmod? nls_cp437 lp parport_pc unix Although ppp is not here, when I type insmod ppp, the response is that I already have the newest version. - Once you connect, what's the output of: I can only use wvdial si

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Andrew Perrin
I really don't think it's a BIOS issue, particularly since you can dial up using other OSes. I"ve asked the following several times and you haven't responded; I'll ask once more, then shut up, assuming that non-response means you're not interested in following through. - What's the output of lsmo

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Sidney Brooks
In case it may be of help to someone in the future, this is how I got into my printer troubles. I installed Windows98, Redhat 6.2, and Debian Potato on three separate partitions of my hard drive. I dutifully made boot floppies for Redhat and Debian. However, Redhat gives you no choice about li

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Sidney Brooks
Answers to recent questions. After using wvdial, the contents of /var/log/messages: syslog 1.3-3# 33.1: restart Output of lsmod: ppp Size 203000 When I give command pon, I just get: /usr/sbin/pppd: proxyarp option is disabled. It is not clear to me what is meant by -am line in /etc/ppp/options

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Andrew Perrin
To repeat what others have said: - What's the output of lsmod? - Once you connect, what's the output of: ipchains -a route -n nslookup www.debian.org ping -c5 198.186.203.20 traceroute 198.186.203.20 - What are the contents of /var/log/messages with respect

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Sidney Brooks
Thanks to good advice here, I have solved my printer problem. When it became clear that lilo was loading the wrong kenel, I removed Debian and Redhat from my computer. I then cleaned out mbr. I reinstalled Debian. The kernel is now 2.2.19 pre17. I used the echo method and it printed. Hopin

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Andrew Perrin
>From the rest of the discussion, it's clear that LILO is incorrectly loading your redhat kernel when you intend debian, and that's leading to your other problems. Read man lilo.conf, edit /etc/lilo.conf, run lilo, and reboot, and report back. --

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 04:36:58AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: :Thanks to Steve Kowalik, who wrote the following, the problem if not the :solution is becoming clear. :I have Windows on partition hda1, Redhat on hda6, and Debian on hda8. :Because of what Steve wrote, I did uname -a for Redhat and

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Sidney Brooks
Thanks to Steve Kowalik, who wrote the following, the problem if not the solution is becoming clear. On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:35:35PM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered: > I ran depmod -a as root and got: > Can't open /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep for writing. > > Again the number seems to ind

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:35:35PM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered: > I ran depmod -a as root and got: > Can't open /lib/modules/2.2.14-5.0/modules.dep for writing. > > Again the number seems to indicate my kernel version is 2.2.14, which it > shouldn't be. However, I do not know enough about kerne

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 09:20:06PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > Nick wrote: > > [snip] > >I have the2.2.r3 version of Debian. The full kernel description is > >2.0.38-2.0.38-3. > Can't comment on any of your other issues at the moment, but your > kernel version *can't* be right - I'm running De

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-03 Thread Lance Simmons
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 01:11:37PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > This is a response to Lance Simmons. > > When I reinstalled Debian yesterday, I installed the modules in the order > that you give: parport, parport_pc, and lp. After each I got the message > "installation succeeded". Is there any

Re. Total confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Sidney Brooks
Steve Kowalik wrote: On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 11:06:35AM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered: > Then /sbin/modprobe -v ppp > Response: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15.0/modules.dep (No such file or directory) > Run depmod -a as root to fix that particular problem. I ran d

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Sidney Brooks
Nick wrote: [snip] >I have the2.2.r3 version of Debian. The full kernel description is >2.0.38-2.0.38-3. Can't comment on any of your other issues at the moment, but your kernel version *can't* be right - I'm running Debian 2.2r2 which came with kernel 2.2.18pre?, and which I've recently updated

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Steve Kowalik
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 11:06:35AM -0700, Sidney Brooks uttered: > Then /sbin/modprobe -v ppp > Response: modprobe: Can't open dependencies file > /lib/modules/2.2.14-15.0/modules.dep (No such file or directory) > Run depmod -a as root to fix that particular problem. --

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 03:51:57AM +0100, Nick wrote: > On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:15:02 -0700, Sidney Brooks > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > >I have the2.2.r3 version of Debian. The full kernel description is > >2.0.38-2.0.38-3. > > Can't comment on any of your other issues at the moment,

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Nick
On Fri, 01 Jun 2001 18:15:02 -0700, Sidney Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] >I have the2.2.r3 version of Debian. The full kernel description is >2.0.38-2.0.38-3. Can't comment on any of your other issues at the moment, but your kernel version *can't* be right - I'm running Debian 2.2r2 w

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Sidney Brooks
To: Eamon Roque The logs that you want are in my 11:06 AM 6/2/01 posting. I cannot echo anything. To: Jonathan D. Pro(rest not printed in my email) Redhat problems with dialing, e.g. kppp, gnome-ppp ,are the same as with Debian. As far as I know, Redhat does not have the ppp module. The printer

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Sidney Brooks
This is a response to Lance Simmons. When I reinstalled Debian yesterday, I installed the modules in the order that you give: parport, parport_pc, and lp. After each I got the message "installation succeeded". Is there any point in going through the insmod sequence?

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Jonathan D. Proulx
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 06:15:02PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: :I know that I am connected because the log says so. Please post the log out put as others have suggested. At one point it will say connected when the modems start talking to each other, later it will give the local and remote IP add

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Lance Simmons
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 12:09:56PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > More answers. > > when I ran ismod parport, the response was "ismod command not found". Yikes! Did I say "ismod"? I meant "insmod" (to INsert a MODule). lp depends on parport_pc which depends on parport, so they have to be loaded i

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Sidney Brooks
More answers. when I ran ismod parport, the response was "ismod command not found". I ran pppconfig in the standard way, ending with the write and finish command.I then ran pon and got (it is verbose): ioctl(TIOCSETUP):Invalid argument (22) /usr/bin/ppp: This system lacks kernel support for PP

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Andrew Perrin
I'm beginning to think you've got some weird kernel running, what with your reporting of 2.0.38 under debian 2.2r3, and with this ppp issue. When you configured the system, did you include ppp (in the net section) as a module? Is it in /etc/modules? If not, try including it. Also, just to verify

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread John Hasler
Sidney Brooks writes: > After configuring PPP,... What do you mean by "configuring PPP"? _Exactly_ what did you do and _exactly_ what were the results? Don't hesitate to be verbose. > I get message "This system lacks kernel support for ppp. In response to what command? This message does not a

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Lance Simmons
On Sat, Jun 02, 2001 at 11:06:35AM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > > The printer does not work. The echo test failed. What messages do you get when you insmod parport, parport_pc, and lp?

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Sidney Brooks
Answer to questions by Kent West. The printer does not work. The echo test failed. Printer does work with Redhat, therefore is not win-printer. Possibility of damage by lightning strike. Modem works with Windows and Beos. My ISP administrator used his own modem. Minicom says" Connect

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-02 Thread John Hasler
Kent West writes: > What does plog report when you use pppconfig/pon/poff? Or even when you don't. Plog is just #!/bin/sh if [ -s /var/log/ppp.log ]; then exec tail "$@" /var/log/ppp.log else exec tail "$@" /var/log/syslog | grep ' \(pppd\|chat\)\[' fi -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dan

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Kent West
Sidney Brooks wrote: Here are answers to some of the questions that helpful people have posed. About two hours ago, I installed Debian anew. It was during this installation that I added the modules parport, etc. . The message at the time of installation was "installation successful". So doe

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Kent West
Sidney Brooks wrote: More information. I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all dial and get connected to my ISP. None get me on to the internet. So, when you use minicom, you can dial-out (assuming you have volume up, you hear dialtone, and then dialing tones

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-02 Thread Andrew Perrin
Sidney, Sorry this has been such a pain for you. I think, though, that you need to systematize your attempts to get it working. Going back to square one was a reasonable idea. But it would help to have the actual output of the commands and logs you refer to, rather than just your memory of them. F

Re: Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread csj
On Saturday 02 June 2001 06:35, Sidney Brooks wrote: > In response to a suggestion, I installed the parport and parport_pc > modules. After that I was able to install the lp module. > Unfortunately, after going through this whole new installation of > Debian, the result was the same. The printer do

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
Here are answers to some of the questions that helpful people have posed. About two hours ago, I installed Debian anew. It was during this installation that I added the modules parport, etc. . The message at the time of installation was "installation successful". I have successfully installed

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Lance Simmons
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:35:03PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > In response to a suggestion, I installed the parport and parport_pc > modules. After that I was able to install the lp module. > Unfortunately, after going through this whole new installation of Debian, > the result was the same. Th

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread tom
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:50:43PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > As for the ping suggestion, I think that I tried it about a week ago > without success. The clue that I do not know how to use is that my ISP > administrator had no trouble connecting his computer through my line to the > internet.

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Lance Simmons
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:35:03PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > In response to a suggestion, I installed the parport and parport_pc > modules. After that I was able to install the lp module. > Unfortunately, after going through this whole new installation of Debian, > the result was the same. Th

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
Following your suggestions, I have installed the parport and lp modules and changed the BIOS to make the parallel port bidirectional. Windows recognized the printer port change. Debian still will not print. When using echo to tell it to print, it says "no such device" to both /lp0 and /lp1. As f

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
In response to a suggestion, I installed the parport and parport_pc modules. After that I was able to install the lp module. Unfortunately, after going through this whole new installation of Debian, the result was the same. The printer does not appear in dmesg and the echo system for printing di

Re: Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread megglestone
X-Mailer: AtDot 2.0.1 X-URL: http://www.atdot.org/ > For the record, my parallel port and serial port are enabled in the BIOS. > You mentioned early that you reset the BIOS back to default settings... You've checked that the parallel port is enabled... if its a newer computer... then you can se

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Brian Nelson
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 05:04:42PM -0400, D-Man wrote: > On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:41:35PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote: > | On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:15:23PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > | > More information. > | > > | > I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all > |

Re: Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread tom
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:09:12PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > I have written a couple of times about my two problems, namely that Debian > will not recognize that I have a printer connected and that I can connect > to my ISP but can't get on to the internet. Here is some more information. You

Re. Total Confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
I would like to make the following observation in response to some of the suggestions that I have read. In response to my persistence, my ISP administrator, who is not interested in linux, set up Redhat linux on his computer, doing nothing but a straightforward installation with none of the sub

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 03:41:35PM -0500, Brian Nelson wrote: | On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:15:23PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: | > More information. | > | > I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all | > dial and get connected to my ISP. None get me on to the internet

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Brian Nelson
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 01:15:23PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > More information. > > I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all > dial and get connected to my ISP. None get me on to the internet. Sounds like a configuration problem with the dialer. pppd should log

Re. Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
More information. I have tried minicom, kppp, gnome -ppp, wvdial, and pppconfig. They all dial and get connected to my ISP. None get me on to the internet. As for my printer problem, I think that the facts that the printer is absent from dmesg and the "echo" test failed, shows that higher pro

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Cameron Matheson
On 01 Jun 2001 12:52:12 -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: > In answer to some questions. > My ISP connection is dialup. What have you tried? Use pppconfig to configure your ISP once your modem works. > When I try to install the lp module in the debian install process, I get > the message "installatio

Re: Re. Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread D-Man
On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:52:12PM -0700, Sidney Brooks wrote: | In answer to some questions. | My ISP connection is dialup. Have you tried wvdial? Sometimes that works quite nicely with little configuration necessary. | When I try to install the lp module in the debian install process, I get |

Re. Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Sidney Brooks
In answer to some questions. My ISP connection is dialup. When I try to install the lp module in the debian install process, I get the message "installation failed". I think that I succeeded at one time afterward using apt-get. It still didn't work.I tried dmesg and no printer was shown. Testin

Re: Total confusion

2001-06-01 Thread Jason Majors
Do you have the necessary modules loaded to use a printer? Do you have an entry for it in /etc/printcap? How is your networking setup? Is it cable? DSL? dialup? And how is it configured? You need to provide details in order for people to help. On Fri, Jun 01, 2001 at 12:09:12PM -0700, Sidney Brook

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