On Mon, 26 Sep 2011 01:41:10 -
Cam Hutchison c...@xdna.net wrote:
David Witbrodt dawit...@sbcglobal.net writes:
(My goal was to
produce a kernel that boots without an initrd; most people will not
share that goal.)
I would have thought that most people would share that goal, since
Cam Hutchison:
(My goal was to
produce a kernel that boots without an initrd; most people will not
share that goal.)
I would have thought that most people would share that goal, since
building an initrd is useful for only two reasons I can think of:
I regularly built custom kernels for a
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:22:33 +, Camaleón wrote:
Okay, let's get the numbers.
I followed Sven and Stephen's advice so I:
- Used make localmodconfig to generate the .config file
- Appended CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 to
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote:
On 9/25/2011 11:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:18:53 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
Simply go through all the hardware and deselect anything that's not
inside that netbook. Of all the network interface
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 7:26 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
I will continue to use and recommend kernel-package. But I'm not going
to argue with those who wish to use make deb-pkg.
It's all a question of habit. If I need to have a package, I use
make-dpkg on Debian distribs and
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:13:58 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 9/25/2011 11:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
Simply go through all the hardware and deselect anything that's not
inside that netbook. Of all the network interface cards you'll only
need one (or two depending on whether that netbook
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 9:41 PM, Cam Hutchison c...@xdna.net wrote:
David Witbrodt dawit...@sbcglobal.net writes:
(My goal was to
produce a kernel that boots without an initrd; most people will not
share that goal.)
I would have thought that most people would share that goal, since
building
* Stephen Powell [110924 14:13 -0400]:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:18:47 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
What do you mean by kernel-package? Debian's vanilla kernel?
kernel-package is the name of a Debian package, as in
aptitude install kernel-package
Isn't [1] the proper way to build
On 9/24/2011 6:55 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
5 hours? Did you say 5 hours?
I have a 10 year old dual Mendocino 550 machine with only 384MB of PC100
that takes about 30 minutes to compile my custom kernels using make -j2.
I'd
On 9/25/2011 2:42 AM, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
* Stephen Powell [110924 14:13 -0400]:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:18:47 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
What do you mean by kernel-package? Debian's vanilla kernel?
kernel-package is the name of a Debian package, as in
aptitude install
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:56:35 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote:
CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=$(getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN)
although getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN on an atom's probably 1; but
you never know...
You can also pass
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:13:57 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:18:47 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
What do you mean by kernel-package? Debian's vanilla kernel?
kernel-package is the name of a Debian package, as in
aptitude install kernel-package
It is not a
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 03:42:24 -0400 (EDT), Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
Isn't [1] the proper way to build Debian kernels?
[1] http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html
That depends on your definition of proper. The kernel handbook,
not surprisingly, is maintained by the
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
In fact, I already have a set of tools installed (along with fakeroot,
that kernel-package) because I'm following Debian Installation Guide
instructions:
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch08s06.html
There's also
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:53:59 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
If you decide to try kernel-package, make sure that you apply the patch
file listed in the web page. It won't work properly with a version 3
kernel unless you do.
Hum... you mean the one for EDID? I've compiled
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:30:36 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:53:59 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
Stephen Powell wrote:
If you decide to try kernel-package, make sure that you apply the
patch file listed in the web page. It won't work properly with a
version 3 kernel
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:25:19 -0400, Tom H wrote:
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
In fact, I already have a set of tools installed (along with
fakeroot, that kernel-package) because I'm following Debian
Installation Guide instructions:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 16:15:51 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 9/24/2011 9:22 AM, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
I don't need nothing special, just to be able to boot the system, test
the staging drivers and then remove/compile a new kernel again so
wasting the less time in the process would be great
On Sun 25 Sep 2011 at 08:21:17 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
[Snipped: Some advantages of using kernel-package]
But, to each his own. Whatever floats your boat, man.
Indeed, but the deck is stacked against kernel-package when it is
associated with 'deprecated' in the minds of users. It may not
From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
Sent: Sun, September 25, 2011 10:30:30 AM
Subject: Re: Reducing kernel compilation time
I'd guess you're including the kitchen sink. Don't build the hundreds
of driver modules your machines won't ever use. That is the key to
reducing build time
On 9/25/2011 9:30 AM, Camaleón wrote:
Fair enough, but I wonder what to include in the recipe. If I put too
much salt or leave the oven for many hours at the maximun temperature
I'll get a pastiche nobody will be able to eat...
Have you used make-menuconfig? Simply go through all the
On 9/25/2011 10:16 AM, David Witbrodt wrote:
If that option had existed when I
was learning about this, it would have saved me many, many hours!
But then you wouldn't have learned as much. Easier is not always
better, even though it often seems so.
--
Stan
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On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 08:16:53 -0700, David Witbrodt wrote:
From: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
Sent: Sun, September 25, 2011 10:30:30 AM Subject: Re: Reducing kernel
compilation time
I'd guess you're including the kitchen sink. Don't build the
hundreds of driver modules your machines
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:18:53 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 9/25/2011 9:30 AM, Camaleón wrote:
Fair enough, but I wonder what to include in the recipe. If I put too
much salt or leave the oven for many hours at the maximun temperature
I'll get a pastiche nobody will be able to eat...
From: Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com
Sent: Sun, September 25, 2011 11:27:13 AM
Subject: Re: Reducing kernel compilation time
If that option had existed when I
was learning about this, it would have saved me many, many
hours!
But then you wouldn't have learned as much
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 14:22:33 +, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
Any trick?
Yes, I got many useful tricks, a big thanks to all.
Okay, let's get the numbers.
I followed Sven and Stephen's advice so I:
- Used make localmodconfig to generate the .config file
- Appended CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2 to
On 9/25/2011 11:02 AM, Camaleón wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:18:53 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
On 9/25/2011 9:30 AM, Camaleón wrote:
Fair enough, but I wonder what to include in the recipe. If I put too
much salt or leave the oven for many hours at the maximun temperature
I'll get a
On Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:27:09 -0400 (EDT), Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote:
Indeed, but the deck is stacked against kernel-package when it is
associated with 'deprecated' in the minds of users. It may not suit the
Kernel Team for their use but I've happily and successfully compiled
kernels
David Witbrodt dawit...@sbcglobal.net writes:
(My goal was to
produce a kernel that boots without an initrd; most people will not
share that goal.)
I would have thought that most people would share that goal, since
building an initrd is useful for only two reasons I can think of:
1) You are
Hello,
I had to compile the latest upstream kernel sources to make some
debugging with my wifi drivers (from staging) and discovered that
compilation took ~5 hours.
That's much for testing purposes.
Compilation takes place in a netbook governed by Intel's Atom N455 with 2
GiB of RAM and I
I would build only the relevant kernel *module*, I want to play with
(or imported from linux-next):
http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage
HTH
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I had to compile the latest upstream kernel
time in the process would be great :-)
Any trick?
I would build only the relevant kernel *module*, I want to play with (or
imported from linux-next):
http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage
I'll give it a whirl, but reducing kernel compilation time is still
something
On 2011-09-24 16:22 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
I had to compile the latest upstream kernel sources to make some
debugging with my wifi drivers (from staging) and discovered that
compilation took ~5 hours.
That's much for testing purposes.
Compilation takes place in a netbook governed by
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:22:33 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
I had to compile the latest upstream kernel sources to make some
debugging with my wifi drivers (from staging) and discovered that
compilation took ~5 hours.
That's much for testing purposes.
Compilation takes place in a
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:18:08 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
On 2011-09-24 16:22 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
(...)
I don't need nothing special, just to be able to boot the system, test
the staging drivers and then remove/compile a new kernel again so
wasting the less time in the process would be
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:01:07 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:22:33 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
(...)
I don't need nothing special, just to be able to boot the system, test
the staging drivers and then remove/compile a new kernel again so
wasting the less time in the
On 2011-09-24 18:04 +0200, Camaleón wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:18:08 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
Plug in any hardware that you intend to use with your netbook and then
run make localmodconfig. This works from Linux 2.6.32 onwards¹.
I'll test that, it sounds very good :-)
(I guess that
On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Stephen Powell zlinux...@wowway.com wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:22:33 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
I had to compile the latest upstream kernel sources to make some
debugging with my wifi drivers (from staging) and discovered that
compilation took ~5 hours.
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 12:18:47 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
What do you mean by kernel-package? Debian's vanilla kernel?
kernel-package is the name of a Debian package, as in
aptitude install kernel-package
It is not a kernel. It is a collection of scripts, configuration
files, etc. that
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 13:56:35 -0400 (EDT), Tom H wrote:
CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=$(getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN)
although getconf _NPROCESSORS_ONLN on an atom's probably 1; but
you never know...
You can also pass INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 to make-kpkg so that the make
modules_install step strips out
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 20:20 +,
debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2
I didn't read the thread, just one mail.
For my 2.1 GHz dual-core Athlon CONCURRENCY_LEVEL does minimal reduce
compiling time. I suspect that consequently reducing unneeded stuff
would be
On 9/24/2011 9:22 AM, Camaleón wrote:
Hello,
I had to compile the latest upstream kernel sources to make some
debugging with my wifi drivers (from staging) and discovered that
compilation took ~5 hours.
That's much for testing purposes.
Compilation takes place in a netbook governed by Intel's
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 22:44 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2011-09-24 at 20:20 +,
debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org wrote:
CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=2
I didn't read the thread, just one mail.
For my 2.1 GHz dual-core Athlon CONCURRENCY_LEVEL does minimal reduce
compiling time.
On 9/24/2011 11:01 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 10:22:33 -0400 (EDT), Camaleón wrote:
Intel's Atom N455
I'm not familiar with the capabilities of your hardware, but if you have
multiple CPUs (cores)
The Atom 455 is a single core 64/32 bit CPU with HyperThreading,
On Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:15:51 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote:
5 hours? Did you say 5 hours?
I have a 10 year old dual Mendocino 550 machine with only 384MB of PC100
that takes about 30 minutes to compile my custom kernels using make -j2.
I'd guess you're including the kitchen sink.
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