After Sarge->Etch update: Computer doesn't boot. Wife unhappy.

Hello, After I did a sarge->etch update on the weekend the machine frequenty hangs during bootup with the message: waiting for root filesystem. All I can do is type "reboot" at the (initramfs) prompt, then it reboots and usually gets beyond that point. But of course now I'm in

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

"Kevin Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The upgrade from sarge to etch is NOT seamless. Sarge > installs 2.4 kernel. 2.4 support is dropped in etch, > so you should upgrade to a 2.6 kernel, which means > all the new userspace tools for 2.6 kernel (module-init-tool

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:44, Oliver Twist wrote: In any case, with a new major release (etch - 4.0) coming out soon, I am wondering which release to use right now... the testing release of 4.0 or the stable release of 3.1 ? I would say start with 3.1. I

RE: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

> I would say start with 3.1. If all is well, stick with it. > Once Etch becomes > stable, you can upgrade from 3.1 to 4.0. Unlike other > distros, upgrading > across stable releases is really easy! I disagree, and here's why: The upgrade from sarge to etch is NOT seaml

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

On Sunday 28 January 2007 22:44, Oliver Twist wrote: > In any case, with a new major release (etch - 4.0) coming out soon, I am > wondering which release to use right now... the testing release of 4.0 or > the stable release of 3.1 ? > I would say start with 3.1. If all is well, stick with it. On

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

ported for that long after sarge was released. Etch will be supported for 1 year or untill the release of etch+1: "Lenny", whichever comes first. (Wither way, it should be around a year) 2) If I do choose 3.1 for now, will I soon find it necessary to move to 4.0? Once the securi

Re: stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

out soon, I am > wondering which release to use right now... the testing release of 4.0 or > the stable release of 3.1 ? > > A few concerns: > > 1) How long will security updates be maintained for 3.1 once 4.0 becomes > "stable"? Around 1 year, woody was supported for t

stable 3.1 (sarge) or testing 4.0 (etch) for a new user?

I am a soon-to-be new user of Debian. I have been using other (particularly live) distros for a while to learn linux, but I very much want to move to Debian. In any case, with a new major release (etch - 4.0) coming out soon, I am wondering which release to use right now... the testing relea

Re: amavis-new on sarge instable? (solved)

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh schrieb: On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Moritz Haslhofer wrote: i have a strange problem with our mailserver (Debian Linux 3.1 Sarge). The amavis-new daemon gives up on us at least once every day, without leaving any trace in mail.log, mail.err, syslog or /var/log/messages

Re: amavis-new on sarge instable?

On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Moritz Haslhofer wrote: > i have a strange problem with our mailserver (Debian Linux 3.1 Sarge). > The amavis-new daemon gives up on us at least once every day, without > leaving any trace in mail.log, mail.err, syslog or /var/log/messages. > > enviroment: >

amavis-new on sarge instable?

Hi everyone, i have a strange problem with our mailserver (Debian Linux 3.1 Sarge). The amavis-new daemon gives up on us at least once every day, without leaving any trace in mail.log, mail.err, syslog or /var/log/messages. enviroment: The Server has an Intel Pentium 4 3.20 GHz Processor with 2

Re: Debian Sarge install onto raid 5

On Wednesday, 17.01.2007 at 13:09 -0800, Tom Brown wrote: > On Tuesday 16 January 2007 06:49, Craig Schneider wrote: > > Hi Guys > > > > Is it a good idea to install debian sarge onto soaftware raid 5? > > > > Any thoughts welcome. > > Well, I tried on a

Re: Debian Sarge install onto raid 5

On Tuesday 16 January 2007 06:49, Craig Schneider wrote: > Hi Guys > > Is it a good idea to install debian sarge onto soaftware raid 5? > > Any thoughts welcome. Well, I tried on a Dell PowerEdge 4400 with a RAID 5. The install went ok. However, the darn thing wouldn't load

Re: Debian Sarge install onto raid 5

On 16-jan-2007, at 15:49, Craig Schneider wrote: Is it a good idea to install debian sarge onto soaftware raid 5? Well, yes. Raid 5 is a good general choice for a general setup and software raid works just fine. Just don't know if your system is to be 'general' or

Re: Debian Sarge install onto raid 5

On Tuesday, 16.01.2007 at 16:49 +0200, Craig Schneider wrote: > Is it a good idea to install debian sarge onto soaftware raid 5? Maybe. It's certainly not a *bad* idea, per se. It totally depends on what you're planning to use it for and what you're hardware's like. Da

Debian Sarge install onto raid 5

Hi Guys Is it a good idea to install debian sarge onto soaftware raid 5? Any thoughts welcome. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Craig

Re: Upgrade from woody to sarge - ssh strangeness

Probably more suited to debian-user, so I have Cc'd and set MFT accordingly. On Mon, Jan 15, 2007 at 02:43:09PM +0100, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: [...] > Everything works linux (woody, sarge and dapper) to linux, but from > windows (SecureCRT) to linux, I don't even get the opt

Re: php5-mysqli .deb package for Debian Sarge

Hello once again. Mathias Brodala, 15.01.2007 20:47: > Siju George, 15.01.2007 19:14: >> Could one of you share me the steps I have to take to compile a >> php5-mysqli package for sarge using the Source at dot deb? > > Go into your preferred build directory and run the foll

Re: php5-mysqli .deb package for Debian Sarge

Hello Siju. Siju George, 15.01.2007 19:14: > No where I find php5-mysqli package for debian sarge :-( I wonder if there is even one. > Could one of you share me the steps I have to take to compile a > php5-mysqli package for sarge using the Source at dot deb? Go into your prefer

php5-mysqli .deb package for Debian Sarge

Hi, No where I find php5-mysqli package for debian sarge :-( And I beleive that somebody out there has made on for himself and is using it. Or may be somebody out there knows how to make one using the PHP5 deb-src at dotdeb. Could one of you share me the steps I have to take to compile a php5

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 14:22 +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: Snip > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ch4.en.html#s4.10 Thanks for the link. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

On Fri, Jan 12, 2007 at 02:22:48PM +0100, Sven Arvidsson wrote: > On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 18:52 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > Yup. While that will thwart the most naïve of attacks, put a binary > > (not a script) in there (something like ls works) and run this: > > > > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /tm

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 18:52 -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > Yup. While that will thwart the most naïve of attacks, put a binary > (not a script) in there (something like ls works) and run this: > > /lib/ld-linux.so.2 /tmp/ls That is actually not possible if you have a recent linux kernel.

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 01:38:09PM -0500, Greg Folkert wrote: > > At one time I had an IRC-Bot on my machine. It was put in /dev/shm/ I > fixed the access issue (it was writable by anyone) > The fact that /dev/shm is world writable is not an access issue anymore than /tmp being world writable. I

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

On Wed, 2007-01-10 at 11:53 -0600, Fran wrote: > I've been told by my ISP that my sarge webserver (only port 80 open, all > software up to date) is spewing traffic they're calling IRC_nick, which > is apparantly some sort of IRC bot. > > I'm unable to locate th

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

Fran wrote: > I've been told by my ISP that my sarge webserver (only port 80 open, all > software up to date) is spewing traffic they're calling IRC_nick, which > is apparantly some sort of IRC bot. > > I'm unable to locate the file/files that are infected. A

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/10/07 11:53, Fran wrote: > I've been told by my ISP that my sarge webserver (only port 80 open, all > software up to date) is spewing traffic they're calling IRC_nick, which > is apparantly some sort of IRC bot. "IRC_n

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:01:46AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:53:42AM -0600, Fran wrote: > > > I've been told by my ISP that my sarge webserver (only port 80 open, all > > > s

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 10:01:46AM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:53:42AM -0600, Fran wrote: > > I've been told by my ISP that my sarge webserver (only port 80 open, all > > software up to date

Re: My sarge box has an IRC bot

On Wed, Jan 10, 2007 at 11:53:42AM -0600, Fran wrote: > I've been told by my ISP that my sarge webserver (only port 80 open, all > software up to date) is spewing traffic they're calling IRC_nick, which > is apparantly some sort of IRC bot. > > I'm unable to

My sarge box has an IRC bot

I've been told by my ISP that my sarge webserver (only port 80 open, all software up to date) is spewing traffic they're calling IRC_nick, which is apparantly some sort of IRC bot. I'm unable to locate the file/files that are infected. Additionally, I can't see the process/p

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

On Tuesday 09 January 2007 22:50, Paul Johnson wrote: > a wrote: > > I change motherboard, sarge refuse to boot, it says BIOS check fails > > I used debian before (woody, potato...) there's no such problem > > Do I have to re-install sarge? > > I would make sur

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

a wrote: > I change motherboard, sarge refuse to boot, it says BIOS check fails > I used debian before (woody, potato...) there's no such problem > Do I have to re-install sarge? I would make sure you have a stock Debian kernel installed and working properly before you cha

Re: Cannot boot after sarge->etch upgrade

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Douglas, Yes, by "combined" mode I mean BIOS parameters for SATA, but as far as I understand in this mode sata drives should appear as sd* and pata as hd* (at least this was true for sarge). Strangely enough I was able to

Re: Cannot boot after sarge->etch upgrade

ree > > and of course it could not mount root and boot. > > When I have SATA in PATA mode only I could boot, but of course could not > access the second (SATA) hard drive. > > Are there any workarounds available? Hi Vladimir, Please pardon my ignorance. I don't understan

Cannot boot after sarge->etch upgrade

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I know it sounds strange (I've already did this on four servers without problems) but on the last I've got a problem - it does not boot after upgrade. This computer has SATA in combined mode (I do have both SATA and PATA disks). When SATA is in

Re: sarge iptables

ears that you are either using a backports kernel or rolling your > own? Have you updated iptables? Are you sure that the version of > iptables in Sarge knows where the hashlimit support is? You are right, its my very private kernel :-) Doesn't this older iptables know where to look

Re: sarge iptables

rnel or rolling your own? Have you updated iptables? Are you sure that the version of iptables in Sarge knows where the hashlimit support is? Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature

sarge iptables

Hi there, my kernel (2.6.18) has hashlimit support for iptables compiled in. Now I try to insert a rule using hashlimit, then the following appears: iptables v1.2.11: Couldn't load match `hashlimit':/lib/iptables/libipt_hashlimit.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory Why i

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

On Mon, Jan 08, 2007 at 07:15:32PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > > > > > I tried camE, gqcam and camstream. The dark background thing is > widespread. No single software did ok with the cam. So weird, the camera > lights on and off when some program accesses it. But no image. > Well, the issue is op

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 07:35:12PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > > >>Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> >> >>>On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:53:23AM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: >>> >>> Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:4

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

Since the original problem appears to be a hang shortly after attempting to read the BIOS, I kinda doubt that this trick will work. The poster stated that attempting to boot Sarge, "it" says BIOS check fails. I wonder if this is the BIOS itself, and Debian isn't even in the pic

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

>>What I already did was: >>- Test the webcam in a virtual win in the same machine: test ok. >> >> >> > >what do you mean by this? > I mean, I tested the camera in a vmware windows install, in the same computer. >why don't you try one of the other tools to view it before you start >heading

Re: Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:04:34AM +0800, a wrote: > >> >> I change motherboard, sarge refuse to boot, it says BIOS check fails >> I used debian before (woody, potato...) there's no such problem >> Do I have to re-install sarge? &

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 07:35:12PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:53:23AM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > >>Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>>On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > > > compiled it with module-assistant. Ev

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:53:23AM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > > >>Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: >>> >>> >>> >[...] > > compiled it with module-assistant. Everything went ok, and

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 03:04:47AM +1100, Geoff Reidy wrote: [Please trim your quotes] > You could try booting a cd with memtest86 or knoppix or something to see > if that finds it all, or see if there's a bios update for your > motherboard that mentions some memory issues. > Other than that I'm

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:04:34AM +0800, a wrote: > > I change motherboard, sarge refuse to boot, it says BIOS check fails > I used debian before (woody, potato...) there's no such problem > Do I have to re-install sarge? If the old and new motherboards are identical there sho

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

On Sun, 7 Jan 2007 14:07:12 -0600 Gnu_Raiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I must say don't ever try that under Windows, most people I know who > try it have quirky problems, I would never try it unless it was the > same motherboard and chipset as the board before. I wouldn't. There can still be ch

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 02:07:12PM -0600, Gnu_Raiz wrote: > > I have successfully istalled different graphics cards in the same system > without having to tweak the xorg.conf file. But this was the same brand > of card, for example I have switch from say a Nvidia fx 5600 Ultra, to > say a 6600

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

I have to agree with Robert on this one, just make sure you have a newish stock kernel installed, which will support your motherboard, or at least your cpu chipset. That way you will be able to boot, then you might need to tweak your settings, you should also be making backups of your importan

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 01:53:23AM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > > >On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > > [...] > >>compiled it with module-assistant. Everything went ok, and modprobe > >>inserts the driver with no apparent problems. The thin

Re: Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

Hello, Please reply on the list instead of off the list, unless you have a goo reason. Also, please fix your email client so that it wraps lines properly. My reply is below. On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 03:26:33PM +0800, a wrote: > > Thanks! Both are BX motherboard (slot 1). When I use old one, I

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

-/+ buffers/cache:135749 a 2Gib AMD64: total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1949 1934 15 0285 1201 -/+ buffers/cache:447 1501 Swap: 956428528 And a 48Mib 100M

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Sun 2007-01-07 02:31:48 -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Sunday 07 January 2007 02:13, David Hart wrote: > > > > Besides being memory hungry, KDE applications spit out all sorts of > > > errors both on the konsole terminal and in .xsession-errors. Wonder if > > > etch has been tested as m

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Sunday 07 January 2007 02:13, David Hart wrote: ** msg snipped ** Thanks for the explanation on memory management David. > > > Besides being memory hungry, KDE applications spit out all sorts of > > errors both on the konsole terminal and in .xsession-errors. Wonder if > > etch has been tested

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Sat 2007-01-06 23:52:22 -0500, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: > On Saturday 06 January 2007 19:52, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > > > In fact, I never figured out how they manage to consume all that memory. > > It must be they are working hard on it. :D > > I have 1Gb ram and Etch still uses swap spa

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Saturday 06 January 2007 19:52, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > In fact, I never figured out how they manage to consume all that memory. > It must be they are working hard on it. :D > I have 1Gb ram and Etch still uses swap space (for god knows what). $free -m total used

Re: Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

On Sun, Jan 07, 2007 at 10:04:34AM +0800, a wrote: > > I change motherboard, sarge refuse to boot, it says BIOS check fails > I used debian before (woody, potato...) there's no such problem > Do I have to re-install sarge? Short answer: It depends. Long answer: If you ar

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

Andrew Sackville-West wrote: >On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > > >>I'm trying to set up a 'Z-Star Microeletronics Corp.' webcam in this >>sarge machine (name provided by lsusb, together with '0ac8:305b'. The >>driv

Can I change motherboard without reinstal ling sarge

I change motherboard, sarge refuse to boot, it says BIOS check fails I used debian before (woody, potato...) there's no such problem Do I have to re-install sarge?

Re: setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 10:47:43PM -0200, Bruno Buys wrote: > I'm trying to set up a 'Z-Star Microeletronics Corp.' webcam in this > sarge machine (name provided by lsusb, together with '0ac8:305b'. The > driver's website http://mxhaard.free.fr claims th

setting a spca5xx webcam under sarge?

I'm trying to set up a 'Z-Star Microeletronics Corp.' webcam in this sarge machine (name provided by lsusb, together with '0ac8:305b'. The driver's website http://mxhaard.free.fr claims this is a supported camera). After some googling, I downloaded the spca5xx driv

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Andrew Sackville-West wrote: bah! I spit on your shiny new commodore. *my* commodore was a vic-20 with 3.5k ram. Now that taught you how to control resources. buncha new-fangled whipper-snappers. seriously though, we used to max out that little machine. like this little trick. a '?' was shorth

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 06:45:44PM -0800, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 03:09:29PM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > > > > I really understand you, I started with Commodore 128, and first started > > bah! I spit on your shiny new commodore. *my* commodore was a vic-20

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 03:09:29PM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > > > I really understand you, I started with Commodore 128, and first started bah! I spit on your shiny new commodore. *my* commodore was a vic-20 with 3.5k ram. Now that taught you how to control resources. buncha new-fangled

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge? [ RAM recognition solved ]

Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:13:38 -0600 Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: That swap space is huge. I use the kernel patches of Con Kolivas, http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ He has done a lot on swap usage, and he recommends about 256MB and says that

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge? [ RAM recognition solved ]

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 15:13:38 -0600 Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That swap space is huge. I use the kernel patches of Con Kolivas, > http://members.optusnet.com.au/ckolivas/kernel/ > > He has done a lot on swap usage, and he recommends about 256MB and > says that it is unrelated to

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge? [ RAM recognition solved ]

andy wrote: andy wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:45:40 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:18:27 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although the man page will identify as a bug that the info in dmidecod

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge? [ RAM recognition solved ]

andy wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:45:40 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:18:27 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although the man page will identify as a bug that the info in dmidecode can be comp

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:45:40 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:18:27 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although the man page will identify as a bug that the info in dmidecode can be completely wrong

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 11:21:19AM -0600, John Hasler wrote: > hendrik writes: > > I thought that java and javascript were completely independent -- that > > the only connexion was the first four letters of the name. > > Correct. They are completely unrelated. > -- > John Hasler Then maybe he s

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 17:45:40 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:18:27 + > > andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Although the man page will identify as a bug that the info in > dmidecode can be completely wrong (!), this d

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Andrei Popescu wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:18:27 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although the man page will identify as a bug that the info in dmidecode can be completely wrong (!), this does show that I have 1024MB of RAM - i.e. 1GB. So, somewhere betwixt BIOS and fired up Etch I ha

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

hendrik writes: > I thought that java and javascript were completely independent -- that > the only connexion was the first four letters of the name. Correct. They are completely unrelated. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 03:09:29PM +0100, Marko Randjelovic wrote: > Douglas Tutty wrote: > > > >The only thing I touch java for is javascript in the browser so I can > >use bloatpages when necessary. I thought that java and javascript were completely independent -- that the only connexion was th

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 16:18:27 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Although the man page will identify as a bug that the info in > >> dmidecode can be completely wrong (!), this does show that I have > >> 1024MB of RAM - i.e. 1GB. So, somewhere betwixt BIOS and fired up > >> Etch I have lost

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Geoff Reidy wrote: andy wrote: Geoff Reidy wrote: Marko Randjelovic wrote: andy wrote: Thanks Geoff. I had also read that during the course of my earlier research on this issue. But ... :~$ uname -r 2.6.18-3-686 Viola! 686 and still no 1GB mem recognised, onl

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

andy wrote: > Geoff Reidy wrote: >> Marko Randjelovic wrote: >> >>> andy wrote: >>> Thanks Geoff. I had also read that during the course of my earlier research on this issue. But ... :~$ uname -r 2.6.18-3-686 Viola! 686 and still no 1GB mem recognised, onl

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Geoff Reidy wrote: Marko Randjelovic wrote: andy wrote: Thanks Geoff. I had also read that during the course of my earlier research on this issue. But ... :~$ uname -r 2.6.18-3-686 Viola! 686 and still no 1GB mem recognised, only 3/4s (776400KB) of it, as seen below: :~$ free

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Marko Randjelovic wrote: > andy wrote: >> Thanks Geoff. I had also read that during the course of my earlier >> research on this issue. But ... >> >> :~$ uname -r >> 2.6.18-3-686 >> >> Viola! 686 and still no 1GB mem recognised, only 3/4s (776400KB) of >> it, as seen below: >> >> :~$ free >>

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

andy wrote: Thanks Geoff. I had also read that during the course of my earlier research on this issue. But ... :~$ uname -r 2.6.18-3-686 Viola! 686 and still no 1GB mem recognised, only 3/4s (776400KB) of it, as seen below: :~$ free total used free sharedbuf

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Geoff Reidy wrote: Douglas Tutty wrote: On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 10:42:45AM +, andy wrote: Andrei & Andrew Thanks for the suggestion(s). I am presuming that there is a Debian-way of compiling one's own kernel with the configs and bigmem image. Can someone point me in the dire

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Douglas Tutty wrote: > On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 10:42:45AM +, andy wrote: >> Andrei & Andrew >> >> Thanks for the suggestion(s). I am presuming that there is a Debian-way >> of compiling one's own kernel with the configs and bigmem image. Can >> someone point me in the direction of some decen

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Douglas Tutty wrote: The only thing I touch java for is javascript in the browser so I can use bloatpages when necessary. Why else support-by-using such a nasty, bloated, waste of processing? Then again, I only program in two languages: python for the front end and, if necessary for speed, for

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Fri, Jan 05, 2007 at 10:42:45AM +, andy wrote: > Andrei Popescu wrote: > >On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:58:53 + > >andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>??ukasz Andrzejak wrote: > >>>On 1/4/07, *Hugo Vanwoerkom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>>> wrote: > > >Install the bigmem l

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

2007/1/4, Kumar Appaiah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Dear Debian users, A couple of my friends who were using Sarge, on machines with 128 MB of RAM and 256 MB of RAM have complained that an upgrade from Sarge to Etch has slowed their machine down considerably. This is irrespective of the

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Andrei Popescu wrote: On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:58:53 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Łukasz Andrzejak wrote: On 1/4/07, *Hugo Vanwoerkom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Your kernel config is off: for 1GB: ... CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_H

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Thu, 04 Jan 2007 23:58:53 + andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Łukasz Andrzejak wrote: > > > > > > On 1/4/07, *Hugo Vanwoerkom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Your kernel config is off: for 1GB: > > > > ... > > CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y > >

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

ce I use SATA drives I couldn't use > >Sarge so don't know if Etch is slower on this box. My other box runs > >Sarge but its a 486. I would hazzard a guess that my amd64 is faster > >than my 486 :-) > > > >My top shows Mem: 1027728k total and under normal lo

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 11:58:53PM +, andy wrote: > ?ukasz Andrzejak wrote: > > > > > >On 1/4/07, *Hugo Vanwoerkom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> wrote: > > > > > > > >Your kernel config is off: for 1GB: > > > >... > >CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y > ># CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Łukasz Andrzejak wrote: On 1/4/07, *Hugo Vanwoerkom* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: Your kernel config is off: for 1GB: ... CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G is not set CON

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On 1/4/07, Marko Randjelovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Then I use all of 84k swap, wait 25%, idle 94%. Swap is encrypted. Don't bother yourself. Just use Java. ;) i think he just wanted to strain the system, not kill the box ;) top - 23:18:30 up 13:42, 5 users, load average: 0.28, 0.8

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

Douglas Tutty wrote: I run amd64 Etch on an AMD Athlon 3800+, one GB stick DDR2-800 ECC memory (I know, to really get the dual data rate I need two sticks, that's next year's upgrade). Since I use SATA drives I couldn't use Sarge so don't know if Etch is slower on this box

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 02:17:07PM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > I have an Athlon XP 2700+ with 1GB ram and 1GB swap: > > > I run the 2.6.17.14-ck1 kernel and no Gnome (fvwm2). > I *never* see swapping no matter what I do. show-off ;-P A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: the IP packet size of sarge

On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 01:39:58PM -0800, Serena Cantor wrote: > I use sarge's default kernel (386-2), 2.4 kernel > I am writing application that use UDP > So I want to my UDP fit in one IP packet > how to find out the size of IP packet of sarge? > IP packet size of Windows

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 08:47:48PM +, andy wrote: > ?ukasz Andrzejak wrote: > >Hi, > > > >On 1/4/07, *Kumar Appaiah* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote: > > > >A couple of my friends who were using Sarge, on machin

the IP packet size of sarge

I use sarge's default kernel (386-2), 2.4 kernel I am writing application that use UDP So I want to my UDP fit in one IP packet how to find out the size of IP packet of sarge? IP packet size of Windows XP? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam?

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 09:07:45PM +0100 or thereabouts, ?ukasz Andrzejak wrote: > Hi, [ ...] > To add something actually usefull - i reccomend htop (a better top) and > xrestop (checks running apps for memory footprint x-resource wise) to check > what takes the most resources. Hey, Thanks for t

Re: Etch becoming slower than Sarge?

On 1/4/07, Hugo Vanwoerkom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Your kernel config is off: for 1GB: ... CONFIG_NOHIGHMEM=y # CONFIG_HIGHMEM4G is not set # CONFIG_HIGHMEM64G is not set # CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G is not set CONFIG_VMSPLIT_3G_OPT=y # CONFIG_VMSPLIT_2G is not set # CONFIG_VMSPLIT_1G is not set ..

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