Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-30 Thread Seeker5528
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 20:29:55 +0200 Adrian von Bidder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: XFree86 has created licensing issues, which is the reason why xorg was started at all. I remember things a bit differently. X.org was started as a result of difficulties of developers to gain admittance to the

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-28 Thread Edward Kamau
Hi I have been running Sid for a while now. Today I decided to do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' (after doing an update). Two problems have arisen from this. 1. apt-get has been unable to reach Debian mirrors for 'non-us' i.e apt fails with a 404 error. I basically got around this by commenting out

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-28 Thread Kent West
Edward Kamau wrote: Hi I have been running Sid for a while now. Today I decided to do a 'apt-get dist-upgrade' (after doing an update). Two problems have arisen from this. 1. apt-get has been unable to reach Debian mirrors for 'non-us' i.e apt fails with a 404 error. I basically got around this

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-27 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 24 August 2005 00.06, Paul E Condon wrote: 2. There is a system for controlling which (stable,testing,unstable) is the dominant distribution in your apt-get system. It is called 'apt preferences'. If you really want to complicate your life with a mixed distribution installation,

Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread A. Lanza
Hi list, i've been running Fedora linux for about 3 years now but... i wanted to explore Debian as well. Recently, i had to set up a mail system and i installed Debian Sarge on an old Pentium 3 machine with 128 MB of RAM. The new(?) Sarge installer is quite good and i had no problems to set my

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Robert Waldner
On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 09:11:07 BST, Martynas Brijunas writes: * kernel 2.4.27 was installed in my box. It's been a suprise since in Fedora i'm running kernels 2.6.x. Why this 2.4 kernel? Does Debian consider 2.6 kernels unstable? I'd like to upgrade my kernel; how can i do it using apt-get? at

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Martynas Brijunas
* kernel 2.4.27 was installed in my box. It's been a suprise since in Fedora i'm running kernels 2.6.x. Why this 2.4 kernel? Does Debian consider 2.6 kernels unstable? I'd like to upgrade my kernel; how can i do it using apt-get? at the CD boot prompt type in linux26 to install the kernel 2.6

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Graham Smith
* kernel 2.4.27 was installed in my box. It's been a suprise since in Fedora i'm running kernels 2.6.x. Why this 2.4 kernel? Does Debian consider 2.6 kernels unstable? I'd like to upgrade my kernel; how can i do it using apt-get? I've wondered why a 2.4 kernel is installed by default as well

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
A. Lanza wrote: * I have found Debian not very different from Fedora in the basics. I would like to know what are the very differences among both distros. 1. Philosophy. Debian is focused on Free (as in Freedom) software. If it ain't Free, it doesn't get into Debian. Things like Java, Flash,

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Daniel Ramaley
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 03:06 am, A. Lanza wrote: i've been running Fedora linux for about 3 years now but... i wanted to explore Debian as well. Recently, i had to set up a mail system and i installed Debian Sarge on an old Pentium 3 machine with 128 MB of RAM. The new(?) Sarge installer is

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Daniel Ramaley wrote: When Xorg came out, Sarge was almost ready to become the stable release. Sarge is what i'm running, but i've not had any problems with my older hardware. If you want Xorg, try switching to the testing distribution. To do that, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and every time you

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Graham Smith
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 14:36, Daniel Ramaley wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 03:06 am, A. Lanza wrote: i've been running Fedora linux for about 3 years now but... i wanted to explore Debian as well. Recently, i had to set up a mail system and i installed Debian Sarge on an old Pentium 3

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:43:23AM -0500, Kent West wrote: Daniel Ramaley wrote: When Xorg came out, Sarge was almost ready to become the stable release. Sarge is what i'm running, but i've not had any problems with my older hardware. If you want Xorg, try switching to the testing

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:43:23AM -0500, Kent West wrote: I would recommend duplicating the Stable lines, rather than replacing them. Then replace the stable or sarge in the first (top) set with your release of choice. This way, the system can fall back to packages in

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:36:24AM -0500, Daniel Ramaley wrote: When Xorg came out, Sarge was almost ready to become the stable release. Sarge is what i'm running, but i've not had any problems with my older hardware. If you want Xorg, try switching to the testing distribution. To do

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/23/05, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 08:43:23AM -0500, Kent West wrote: I would recommend duplicating the Stable lines, rather than replacing them. Then replace the stable or sarge in the first (top) set with your release of choice.

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:06:10AM +0200, A. Lanza wrote: Hi list, * I noticed too that Debian runs XF86 instead of Xorg, as Fedora does. Why this? What are the differences between them? Is video hw support better in Xorg? Are there any licensing issues with Xorg? It's the other way around

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Bryan Donlan wrote: On 8/23/05, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my understanding that because of their high-priority nature, security updates go into Stable even before they sometimes make it into Testing (or perhaps, Unstable?). So a Testing system with the stable security line is

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Rick Friedman
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 09:22 am, Kent West wrote: X.org wasn't ready in time for Sarge's release. It is migrating into Unstable. Many desktop users (myself included) run Unstable rather than Stable (whereas we tend to keep Stable on the servers). That way we get the newer toys/support,

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Rick Friedman wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 09:22 am, Kent West wrote: X.org wasn't ready in time for Sarge's release. It is migrating into Unstable. Many desktop users (myself included) run Unstable rather than Stable (whereas we tend to keep Stable on the servers). That way we get the

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Rick Friedman
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11:32 am, Kent West wrote: Rick Friedman wrote: X is broken in Unstable? How so? I run Unstable and have no problems with X (X.org) at all. At least, no problems that I have been able to perceive. What are the problems to which you refer? Oops; I mis-spoke. KDE is

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Alan Ianson
On Tue August 23 2005 01:06 am, A. Lanza wrote: * kernel 2.4.27 was installed in my box. It's been a suprise since in Fedora i'm running kernels 2.6.x. Why this 2.4 kernel? Does Debian consider 2.6 kernels unstable? I'd like to upgrade my kernel; how can i do it using apt-get? Use the

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 11.31, Graham Smith wrote: * I noticed too that Debian runs XF86 instead of Xorg, as Fedora does. Why this? What are the differences between them? Is video hw support better in Xorg? Are there any licensing issues with Xorg? Try running testing or unstable on your

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Tuesday 23 August 2005 15.22, Kent West wrote: (such as X being broken right now in Unstable). How so? running xorg right now, have not noticed any problems. (Installed ca. 4 days ago) cheers -- vbi -- Could this mail be a fake? (Answer: No! - http://fortytwo.ch/gpg/intro)

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Adrian von Bidder wrote: On Tuesday 23 August 2005 15.22, Kent West wrote: (such as X being broken right now in Unstable). How so? running xorg right now, have not noticed any problems. (Installed ca. 4 days ago) (See previous branch of thread_ I mis-spoke; I meant KDE, not X.

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Bryan Donlan
On 8/23/05, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bryan Donlan wrote: On 8/23/05, Kent West [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's my understanding that because of their high-priority nature, security updates go into Stable even before they sometimes make it into Testing (or perhaps, Unstable?). So

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:31:59AM +0100, Graham Smith wrote: * kernel 2.4.27 was installed in my box. It's been a suprise since in Fedora i'm running kernels 2.6.x. Why this 2.4 kernel? Does Debian consider 2.6 kernels unstable? I'd like to upgrade my kernel; how can i do it using

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Paul E Condon
On Tue, Aug 23, 2005 at 10:06:10AM +0200, A. Lanza wrote: Hi list, i've been running Fedora linux for about 3 years now but... i wanted to explore Debian as well. Recently, i had to set up a mail system and i installed Debian Sarge on an old Pentium 3 machine with 128 MB of RAM. The new(?)

Re: Switching to Debian (from Fedora)

2005-08-23 Thread Kent West
Bryan Donlan wrote: Testing's newer version means the security fix is considered an older version, so it won't auto-upgrade. If the version in testing is vulnerable, you either have to manually downgrade to stable-security, or manually upgrade to unstable. Ah; hadn't thought that point