Re: [Sondage] Top 10 des commandes utilisées

2015-06-30 Thread moi-meme
Le Tue, 30 Jun 2015 15:50:02 +0200, steve a écrit : Pour se détendre 2 minutes, que donne ceci chez vous ? history | awk '{print $5} ; ' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -10 je travaille que sous X. et en console sous screen. Donc les programmes appelés sont inconnus ...

Re: [Sondage] Top 10 des commandes utilisées

2015-06-30 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 03:47:23PM +0200, steve a écrit : Salut, Pour se détendre 2 minutes, que donne ceci chez vous ? history | awk '{print $5} ; ' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -10 Et hop, un mail de plus dans des miliers de boîtes. On aurait peut-être pu attendre vendredi

Re: [Sondage] Top 10 des commandes utilisées

2015-06-30 Thread Fabrice Regnier
FR-PORT:/home/fabricer# history | awk '{print $2}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -10 ^ | Hum… tu bosses sous root ? ouais... j'suis viré ? ;) attends, je vais répondre à la question qui te brûle les lèvres:

Action, inaction, and over-the-top

2014-10-06 Thread Steve Litt
prompt (if he can figure a way to authenticate). Systemd made forking one or two orders of magnitude more difficult. Stop infringing the rules of this mailing list (because, I really doubt that insulting people is allowed)? Agreed. Too nasty and over the top. In my opinion systemd leaves enough

OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread C. L. Martinez
Buenas, Hoy ando espesísimo ... Recuerdo que hace un tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir: CPU 0 proceso 1

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread fernando sainz
El día 26 de febrero de 2014, 14:50, C. L. Martinez carlopm...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, Hoy ando espesísimo ... Recuerdo que hace un tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread C. L. Martinez
ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir: CPU 0 proceso 1 - proceso 2 CPU 1 -- proceso 3 --- proceso 4 Ideas? Gracias. No se si te refieres a la opción de pulsar A estando

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread fernando sainz
tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir: CPU 0 proceso 1 - proceso 2 CPU 1 -- proceso 3

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread fernando sainz
. Martinez carlopm...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, Hoy ando espesísimo ... Recuerdo que hace un tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:50:18 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: Hoy ando espesísimo ... Recuerdo que hace un tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread fernando sainz
El día 26 de febrero de 2014, 14:50, C. L. Martinez carlopm...@gmail.com escribió: Buenas, Hoy ando espesísimo ... Recuerdo que hace un tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014-02-26 14:47 GMT+00:00 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com: El Wed, 26 Feb 2014 13:50:18 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: Hoy ando espesísimo ... Recuerdo que hace un tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread Camaleón
todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir: (...) Pulsas f, luego bajas hasta seleccionar P, conmutas su estado con d y pulsas q para salir. No comprendo cómo pudiste olvidarlo ;-P Lo he respondido en

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread C. L. Martinez
ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir: CPU 0 proceso 1 - proceso 2 CPU 1 -- proceso 3 --- proceso 4 Ideas? Gracias. Ya lo tengo: f para seleccionar el campo

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread fernando sainz
comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir: CPU 0 proceso 1 - proceso 2 CPU 1 -- proceso 3 --- proceso 4 Ideas? Gracias. No se si te

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
El 26/02/14 15:55, C. L. Martinez escribió: Ay, ay, ay ... Que estoy peor de lo que creo. A ver, pulsando f, yo tengo esto: Esos años...esos años... (...) ¿Te vale esto?: P = Last Used Cpu De lo de pulsar P, nos olvidamos porque a mí no me da ni la opción ... Si me muevo a CPU Usage

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread C. L. Martinez
espesísimo ... Recuerdo que hace un tiempo tuve que asociar una cpu a un proceso via comando. Hasta ahí todo ok. Pero ahora mismo no recuerdo como hacer que el top me muestre los procesos por cpu (y eso que en su dia lo hice), es decir: CPU 0 proceso 1 - proceso 2 CPU 1

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread Santiago José López Borrazás
El 26/02/14 16:04, C. L. Martinez escribió: Leches! ... Tiene usted toda la razón :)) Solucionado. Muchas gracias a todos por las respuestas. También tienes otras opciones que están 'deseleccionadas', pero puedes activar a tu gusto. -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás.

Re: OT: Pregunta tonta de top

2014-02-26 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 26 Feb 2014 15:04:21 +, C. L. Martinez escribió: (...) Leches! ... Tiene usted toda la razón :)) Solucionado. Muchas gracias a todos por las respuestas. De nada ;-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a

Re: [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje

2014-01-24 Thread C. L. Martinez
2014/1/24 William Romero wromer...@hotmail.com: From: unefistano...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:38:43 -0430 Subject: [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Acá una info de un tema que me llamó la

Re: [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje

2014-01-24 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:38:43 -0430 Miguel Matos unefistano...@gmail.com wrote: Puppy-es OS Se vendió en México en PC Desktop. Dualboot con windows. http://puppyes.com.ar -- Servicios:. http://mamalibre.com.ar/servicios.php MamaLibre, Casa en Lincoln, Ituzaingo 1085 CP6070,

Re: [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje

2014-01-24 Thread Haylem Candelario Bauzá del INOR
Creo que lo mejor es usar distros que no dependan de una sola empresa como Debian. Si le sucede algo a una empresa que le suceder ´a a su hija la distro?, se queda huerfana y eso no pasa con distros mantenidas por una comunidad. -- Si dominas los Bits, dominas el mundo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: [OT] [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje

2014-01-24 Thread Gerardo Diez García
El 24/01/14 14:24, Haylem Candelario Bauzá del INOR escribió: Creo que lo mejor es usar distros que no dependan de una sola empresa como Debian. Si le sucede algo a una empresa que le suceder ´a a su hija la distro?, se queda huerfana y eso no pasa con distros mantenidas por una comunidad.

[OT] Re: [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje

2014-01-24 Thread Camaleón
me llamó mucho la atención. El enlace es este: http://www.todostartups.com/bloggers/top-de-las-10-distribuciones-linux-mas-vendidas-de-2013-por-hoswedaje; (...) Creo que el autor del artículo no tiene mucha idea lo que escribe y tampoco le veo mucho sentido al texto (¿qué pinta una empresa de

[LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje

2014-01-23 Thread Miguel Matos
/bloggers/top-de-las-10-distribuciones-linux-mas-vendidas-de-2013-por-hoswedaje; pero les doy un aperitivo para que se animen a entrar: La que más destaca sería Linux Mint (situado en la versión Mint 15) una herramienta basada en la distribución Ubuntu (ver más abajo), capaz de mantener un inventario

RE: [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje

2014-01-23 Thread William Romero
From: unefistano...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2014 20:38:43 -0430 Subject: [LINK]Top de las 10 distribuciones Linux más vendidas de 2013 por @Hoswedaje To: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org Acá una info de un tema que me llamó la atención al ver las noticias de mi cuenta de Twitter

Re: top posting

2013-11-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/d-community-offtopic/2013-November/000303.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: top posting

2013-11-21 Thread Joe
On Thu, 21 Nov 2013 11:08:41 +1100 David bouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: On 21 November 2013 10:31, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. When you're curious about anything, use a search engine, like I used to find

Re: top posting

2013-11-21 Thread Jonathan Dowland
Kelly, On a related note, something is wrong with your MUA and quoting. Here's a section of the quoting from your last message, with an additional layer of quoting applied, and trimmed to 20 characters (to avoid further wrapping issues): I'm just curious so upset about top p mind

Re: Google other web mail (was Re: top posting)

2013-11-21 Thread Chris Davies
David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: GMail Yahoo Mail both support encrypted POP3 IMAP [...] I don't have to look at their ads since I'm not using their web interface [...] How long do you think it's going to be before they start inserting ads into the message body then? (And/or offering a

top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Brad Alexander
I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through messages that they have already read. I know that I don't. If they are commenting inline, that is fine, but I think

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Patrick Wiseman
The usual objection to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). But I agree with you, and for years read my email in reverse chronological order precisely so that I could save time

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: The usual objection to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). But I agree with you, and for years

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread David Guntner
Brad Alexander grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through messages that they have already read. I know that I don't

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Ash Narayanan
to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). But I agree with you, and for years read my email in reverse chronological order precisely so that I could save time getting

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread David
On 21 November 2013 10:31, Brad Alexander stor...@gmail.com wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. When you're curious about anything, use a search engine, like I used to find this for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style Especially

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Patrick Wiseman pwise...@gmail.com wrote: The usual objection to top posting is that it destroys the logical flow of the conversation (and no doubt someone will post a conversation in reverse order to illustrate the point). ​snip​ On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Doug
On 11/20/2013 06:31 PM, Brad Alexander wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through messages that they have already read. I know that I don't

Re: top posting

2013-11-20 Thread Brad Alexander
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 6:59 PM, David Guntner da...@guntner.com wrote: Brad Alexander grabbed a keyboard and wrote: I'm just curious why so many people get so upset about top posting. To my mind, as threads get longer, those keeping up with the thread would not want to scroll through

Google other web mail (was Re: top posting)

2013-11-20 Thread David Guntner
are responding to hidden by a ... icon. Thus, if you are not paying attention or are trying to respond quickly, it is easily overlooked. I posted in a thread earlier, and was surprised when someone started their response with don't top post. I didn't even realize I had, thanks again to google. In case

lvm2 on top of dm-crypt - how to add new hard disk

2013-08-21 Thread Luther Blissett
Hello folks, So I might better ask before attempting something stupid. I need to add a new hard drive to an encrypted debian box. The encryption scheme was set using debian installer defaults which resulted in just /dev/sda1 - /boot outside block device encryption. Everything else is encrypted

lvm2 on top of dm-crypt - how to add new hard disk

2013-08-21 Thread Luther Blissett
Hello folks, So I might better ask before attempting something stupid. I need to add a new hard drive to an encrypted debian box. The encryption scheme was set using debian installer defaults which resulted in just /dev/sda1 - /boot outside block device encryption. Everything else is encrypted

Re: lvm2 on top of dm-crypt - how to add new hard disk

2013-08-21 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 12:19:40PM -0300, Luther Blissett wrote: My initial guess was that it should be possible to extend this encryption scheme to the new hard disk using standard lvm tools and the unencrypted open disk as physical volume to the already existing volume group. However, after

top menu and icon bar gets glued to mouse ponter in xfce..

2013-08-16 Thread Hendrik Boom
I'm using xfce on jessie. It's convenient that I can get the top icon bar to minimize until the mouse pointer reached it; I have a small screen. It's occasionally convenient to be able to left-click on the little handle at the left and move it elsewhere by moving the pointer while holding

Re: ffmpeg/avconv doesn't recognize -strict experimental (reposted as top-level thread)

2013-03-15 Thread Jochen Spieker
Joel Roth: Dear List, ffmpeg/avconv aborts even with -strict experimental when input file audio is encoded with AAC. Does the audio *have* to be decoded? I was thinking there might be some kind of pass-through option. Yes, you can try '-acodec copy'. J. -- All participation is a myth.

Re: ffmpeg/avconv doesn't recognize -strict experimental (reposted as top-level thread)

2013-03-15 Thread Joel Roth
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 08:55:16AM +0100, Jochen Spieker wrote: Joel Roth: Dear List, ffmpeg/avconv aborts even with -strict experimental when input file audio is encoded with AAC. Does the audio *have* to be decoded? I was thinking there might be some kind of pass-through option.

ffmpeg/avconv doesn't recognize -strict experimental (reposted as top-level thread)

2013-03-14 Thread Joel Roth
Dear List, ffmpeg/avconv aborts even with -strict experimental when input file audio is encoded with AAC. Does the audio *have* to be decoded? I was thinking there might be some kind of pass-through option. The behavior of ffmpeg and avconv appears to be identical. $ avconv -acodec aac -strict

BSD more secure? was: Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-03 Thread Morel Bérenger
Le Sam 2 mars 2013 4:44, Miles Fidelman a écrit : Yaro Kasear wrote: I don't know if Debian's the most SECURE distribution. It doesn't really have a hardened profile or anything like what Gentoo offers. (Gentoo isn't a prime example of a secure Linux system, I more point to the concept of

Re: BSD more secure? was: Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-03 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013, Morel B?renger wrote: Le Sam 2 mars 2013 4:44, Miles Fidelman a ?crit : Yaro Kasear wrote: I don't know if Debian's the most SECURE distribution. It doesn't really have a hardened profile or anything like what Gentoo offers. (Gentoo isn't a prime example of a secure

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-03 Thread Brad Alexander
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:44 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Good point. And when you start talking security to the point of serious testing and configuration control, I believe there are very few distributions that are on the DoD approved product list. I've tried to stay

Re: BSD more secure? was: Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-03 Thread Miles Fidelman
Morel Bérenger wrote: Le Sam 2 mars 2013 4:44, Miles Fidelman a écrit : Yaro Kasear wrote: I don't know if Debian's the most SECURE distribution. It doesn't really have a hardened profile or anything like what Gentoo offers. (Gentoo isn't a prime example of a secure Linux system, I more point

10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Dick Thomas
Hello, Me and my lug have a weekly radio show and I thought I would do a debian myths piece it only has to be 4 or 5 min long but i'd need 5 or 10 myths abou debian *with links to why they are myth* I'm new to debian but not a new Linux user, so I don't know what is a myth or not things like

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 01 March 2013 22:33:37 Dick Thomas wrote: Me and my lug have a weekly radio show \o/ Where? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 01 March 2013 22:33:37 Dick Thomas wrote: that packages outside of the main Repo aren't tested as well as the main so are prone to failure or bugs The first of these propositions is true, the second false. Several of the repos are very well tested indeed and rock solid (e.g. main

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Friday 01 March 2013 22:33:37 Dick Thomas wrote: Debian is always out of date and even the stable is unsecure as its backported fixes rather than updates Sorry to answer piecemeal. Debian stable starts to go out of date as soon as it is released, or even before, while it was still

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread John Hasler
Lisi writes: I have had a problem with chromium, but that has its own repository. Filename: pool/main/c/chromium-browser/chromium_25.0.1364.97-1_amd64.deb -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Yaro Kasear
On 03/01/2013 05:19 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Friday 01 March 2013 22:33:37 Dick Thomas wrote: Debian is always out of date and even the stable is unsecure as its backported fixes rather than updates Sorry to answer piecemeal. Debian stable starts to go out of date as soon as it is released,

Re: 10 top myths of debian

2013-03-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Yaro Kasear wrote: I don't know if Debian's the most SECURE distribution. It doesn't really have a hardened profile or anything like what Gentoo offers. (Gentoo isn't a prime example of a secure Linux system, I more point to the concept of having a hardened base available, whihc Debian

Top and bottom posting - again!! was: Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 30 December 2012 19:49:14 Dick Thomas wrote: okay will bottom post, (like it matters) Yes, it does. Top posting makes the thread really difficult, if not impossible, to follow. when gmail mobile client hides the post making a bottom / threaded post impossible there is no need

Re: Top and bottom posting - again!! was: Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread David Guntner
Lisi Reisz grabbed a keyboard and wrote: On Sunday 30 December 2012 19:49:14 Dick Thomas wrote: okay will bottom post, (like it matters) Yes, it does. Top posting makes the thread really difficult, if not impossible, to follow. Yup, that was the point I was trying to make. when gmail

Top of the Biggest PITA on the internet - Was: Re: OT: Captchas?

2012-12-19 Thread Ralf Mardorf
. Chambers that sue completely clueless users 6. Completely clueless users [1] To of the Biggest PITA on the internet - Was: Re: OT: Captchas? should be Top of the Biggest PITA on the internet - Was: Re: OT: Captchas? and this additionally is OT on a technical support mailing list

[Fwd: [D-community-offtopic] Outrageous sexism - dump questions - carbon copy - ignoring hidden ids - HTML - top posting - brainstorming - etc.]

2012-11-22 Thread Ralf Mardorf
-community-offtopic] Outrageous sexism - dump questions - carbon copy - ignoring hidden ids - HTML - top posting - brainstorming - etc. Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2012 12:06:26 +0100 Is there anything people are else allowed on Debian user mailing list, besides dissing people for harmless jokes, breaking

Re: [Fwd: [D-community-offtopic] Outrageous sexism - dump questions - carbon copy - ignoring hidden ids - HTML - top posting - brainstorming - etc.]

2012-11-22 Thread Mike McClain
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 12:14:19PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote: snip All off-topic is caused by people who feel offended by harmless jokes, breaking threads, asking the wrong questions, carbon copy, brainstorming etc., not by the people who make harmless jokes, are breaking threads, asking the

Weather in top panel

2012-10-24 Thread Mark Panen
Hi, My weather report has never worked in the top panel in Gnome, 6.06 amd64, is there any thing like YAWP for Gnome? -- Cheers Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http

Debian Governance [was: Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom]

2012-04-02 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 01 apr 12, 16:49:34, Miles Fidelman wrote: Right... but in this case, the Debian project is a pretty big one, with some formal governance, and the rules are written to govern a whole bunch of lists. So I kind of wonder if there's any formality somewhere along the chain, like there is

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-02 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 16:49:34 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Camaleón wrote: El 2012-04-01 a las 09:44 -0400, Miles Fidelman escribió: (sending back to the list) Camaleón wrote: Those rules (I prefer to see them as tips for good guidance) are written by all of us, people like you or me, that

Re: Debian Governance [was: Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom]

2012-04-02 Thread Miles Fidelman
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 01 apr 12, 16:49:34, Miles Fidelman wrote: Right... but in this case, the Debian project is a pretty big one, with some formal governance, and the rules are written to govern a whole bunch of lists. So I kind of wonder if there's any formality somewhere along the

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:55:31 +0200 Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: ... Before you started posting here, the polite thing to do would have been to read the list guidelines, and apply them. Seeing as you appear too

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread PMA
Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:55:31 +0200 Tony van der Hofft...@vanderhoff.org wrote: ... Before you started posting here, the polite thing to do would have been to read the list guidelines, and apply them. Seeing as you appear

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Camaleón
and post (this is an open list, no need for subscription). Anyway, it's normal for mailing list newcomers to be unaware of these conventions, that's why I usually politely note that html formatted messages need to be avoided and also top-posting when I see a bad formatted post. Worth

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Camaleón
El 2012-04-01 a las 09:44 -0400, Miles Fidelman escribió: (sending back to the list) Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:55:31 +0200 Tony van der Hofft...@vanderhoff.org wrote: ... Before you started posting here, the polite thing

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread PMA
formatted messages need to be avoided and also top-posting when I see a bad formatted post. Worth to remember that common sense is the best of the rules. Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: Nobody has been insulted :-? Granted, no-one has screamed.   I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote, so don't know whose it was. In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than reacting to an out of context quote. We have

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread PMA
Fair enough -- mea culpa. Lisi wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: Nobody has been insulted :-? Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote, so don't know whose it was. In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote: Fair enough -- mea culpa. Lisi wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: ... Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote: Fair enough -- mea culpa. Lisi wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: ... Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? To be more precise, it started because

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Mika Suomalainen
thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was that ;-) Greetings, And after that I was taught to bottom post and so on... - -- Mika Suomalainen gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Camaleón
this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was that ;-) And after that I was taught to bottom post and so on... That's what happens when someone opens Pandora's Box, you never know how we'll gonna end

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Brian
On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? It has continued to its present length of nearly fifty posts after you said: Could someone explain me, what are top- and bottom posting styles? If Debian

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Mika Suomalainen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 19:55, Brian wrote: On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? It has continued to its present length of nearly fifty posts after you said

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Doug
On 04/01/2012 12:21 PM, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: Nobody has been insulted :-? Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote, so don't know whose it was. In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than reacting to

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-04-01 Thread Miles Fidelman
Camaleón wrote: El 2012-04-01 a las 09:44 -0400, Miles Fidelman escribió: (sending back to the list) Camaleón wrote: Those rules (I prefer to see them as tips for good guidance) are written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who participate in the mailing lists. The

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-03-31 Thread PMA
I've seen passionate debate on this issue, based mainly on disrupted expectation (as the Bottom guy opens the Top guy's email). Seems to me the important thing is for a given list to adopt one or the other style as standard *for the list*. Take a vote, asking, Which is more important: seeing

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-03-31 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Peter, PMA peterarmstr...@aya.yale.edu wrote: Take a vote, That vote already happened many years ago. asking, Which is more important: seeing the current message immediately (Top), or keeping the flow in one-direction (Bottom)? Neither. Interleaved style is the way to go. Best

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-03-31 Thread Tony van der Hoff
On 31/03/12 16:40, PMA wrote: Seems to me the important thing is for a given list to adopt one or the other style as standard *for the list*. Take a vote, asking, Which is more important: seeing the current message immediately (Top), or keeping the flow in one-direction (Bottom)? Who needs

Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom

2012-03-31 Thread Celejar
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:55:31 +0200 Tony van der Hoff t...@vanderhoff.org wrote: ... Before you started posting here, the polite thing to do would have been to read the list guidelines, and apply them. Seeing as you appear too intellectually challenged to find them for yourself, here is the

Re: Re(3): TOP {LEFT,RIGHT} HALF BRACKETs

2012-03-01 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 29 Feb 2012 13:53:00 -0800, Peter Easthope wrote: I don't see any way to give Icedove the References and In-reply-to fields for the header but they are here. ? Icedove can cope with that automatically. All fonts in the system where Iceweasel displays the upper half brackets are

Re(3): TOP {LEFT,RIGHT} HALF BRACKETs

2012-02-29 Thread Peter Easthope
I don't see any way to give Icedove the References and In-reply-to fields for the header but they are here. Bcc: pe...@easthope.ca References: jifusr$288$4...@dough.gmane.org 171057435.35607.27295@cantor.invalid jigd87$288$1...@dough.gmane.org In-reply-to: jigd87$288$1...@dough.gmane.org *

TOP {LEFT,RIGHT} HALF BRACKETs; was Re (2): Box-drawing characters.

2012-02-27 Thread peasthope
From: Camaleon noela...@gmail.com Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2012 13:02:19 + (UTC) What kind of symbols do you wnat to render? I had referred to box-drawing characters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box-drawing_character This morning I see that the required characters are U+2E22 TOP LEFT HALF

Re: TOP {LEFT,RIGHT} HALF BRACKETs; was Re (2): Box-drawing characters.

2012-02-27 Thread Camaleón
not ;-) This morning I see that the required characters are U+2E22 TOP LEFT HALF BRACKET and U+2E23 TOP RIGHT HALF BRACKET which are not in box-drawing. HALF BRACKETs are visible here. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Unicode/Supplemental_Punctuation Ah, let's see... I see nothing

Re: TOP {LEFT,RIGHT} HALF BRACKETs; was Re (2): Box-drawing characters.

2012-02-27 Thread Camaleón
have tried with DejaVu Sans inside OOo Writer and it does not work, it renders a square symbol :-? Okay, it seems the DejaVu TTF font I have installed does not have the full extended unicode map included. Everson Mono renders top-left-half-bracket (u+2e22) fine, but it's shareware. You'll have

Re: New install - Laptop, dual boot with Win7, config with LVM+LUKS fails if the encryption layer is on top of LVM layer

2011-07-19 Thread Arnt Karlsen
( whatever is left) I realize that Debian default install encrypts the whole PV not the individual LVs, I tried couple of times to setup LUKS encryption on top of the LVM as mentioned above but failed miserably, it always fails at the stage where it is trying to install software. By the way I

New install - Laptop, dual boot with Win7, config with LVM+LUKS fails if the encryption layer is on top of LVM layer

2011-07-18 Thread yudi v
partition (encrypted) - leave the rest unassigned for the time being sda3 150GB NTFS ( whatever is left) I realize that Debian default install encrypts the whole PV not the individual LVs, I tried couple of times to setup LUKS encryption on top of the LVM as mentioned above but failed miserably

gnome-applet top bottom left right setting

2011-06-15 Thread Joao Ferreira Gmail
Hello all, Where can I find the gnome-applet configuration setting that defines the position (top, left, right, bottom) ? I need to change it back to the default setting (bottom, I guess)... changed it to right but the result is not so good and I can't find a way to put it back the way

Re: gnome-applet top bottom left right setting

2011-06-15 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:53:20 +0100, Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote: Where can I find the gnome-applet configuration setting that defines the position (top, left, right, bottom) ? Position of what, exactly? You mean the panel? :-? I need to change it back to the default setting (bottom, I guess

Re: gnome-applet top bottom left right setting

2011-06-15 Thread Joao Ferreira Gmail
On Wed, 2011-06-15 at 13:37 +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 13:53:20 +0100, Joao Ferreira Gmail wrote: Where can I find the gnome-applet configuration setting that defines the position (top, left, right, bottom) ? Position of what, exactly? You mean the panel? :-? :) sorry

[OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Walber Zaldivar Herrera
Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son claras al respecto: 1- Evitar el uso de HTML 2- Evitar el top-posting 3- Evitar los

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread JAP
Walber Zaldivar Herrera escribió: Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son claras al respecto: 1- Evitar el uso de HTML 2

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread Enzo Cappa
On Mar 01 Dic 2009 14:16:16 JAP escribió: Walber Zaldivar Herrera escribió: Hola Si me dieran 1 centavo por cada vez que leo lo del top-posting, los correos en html y los privados en la lista no tendría problemas financieros por el resto de mi vida :) Las normativas de la lista son

Re: [OT] Sobre el top-posting, correos html y los privados

2009-12-01 Thread JAP
Estimados nuevos (o newbies, si prefieren el inglés). Son todos bienvenidos a hacer cualquier tipo de pregunta en esta lista, siempre y cuando vuestras preguntas cumplan estos requisitos: Se note que hayan leído las “netiquettes”, o normas de convivencias. Si no lo hicieron, háganlo en

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