Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-25 Thread Stefan Waidele jun.
David Crane wrote: [mozilla-firebird] I am unsure what I should be moving toward: (1) Go back to the "stable" distribution, and find backports at www.apt-get.org? I am on stable and tried to do this. Apt also tried to remove much of KDE. (Someone told me this was because firebird depends on somet

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-25 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Sun Aug 24, 2003 at 07:31:53PM -0400, David Crane wrote: > This fixed it. An "apt-get dist-upgrade" would now succeed. But it > will have to wait until next weekend, since it says it will download > 291MB of archives, which will take 21.6 hours over my modem. > > I'll try to remove bun

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-25 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 18:43, Colin Watson wrote: > On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:27:52PM -0400, David Crane wrote: > > In the other branch of this thread, I asked whether multiple rounds of > > "apt-get upgrade" would be needed to bring a 3.0rev1 "woody" distribution > > up to a current "testing" dist

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:27:52PM -0400, David Crane wrote: > In the other branch of this thread, I asked whether multiple rounds of > "apt-get upgrade" would be needed to bring a 3.0rev1 "woody" distribution > up to a current "testing" distribution. Here's the documentation of 'upgrade' from the

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread David Crane
Thomas Krennwallner wrote: I don't know if it's essential for you, but if you remove kdebase-audiolibs and (only the package) kde (the only package which depends on kdebase-audiolibs), than you could do an upgrade. This fixed it. An "apt-get dist-upgrade" would now succeed. But it will have to w

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Sun Aug 24, 2003 at 04:59:50PM -0400, David Crane wrote: > debian:~# apt-get dist-upgrade > Reading Package Lists... Done > Building Dependency Tree... Done > Calculating Upgrade... failed > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: > kde: Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread David Crane
Frank Gevaerts wrote: If you go to a different release (i.e. from woody/stable to sarge/testing), you need to run "apt-get dist-upgrade". Pay attention to what it proposes to do. You may need to put some packages on hold. Here is what I encounter when I attempt a dist-upgrade: debian:~# apt-ge

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 01:10:35PM -0400, David Crane wrote: > up-to-date. Does a debian that is significantly behind (I started with > 3.0r1 CD-ROMs) > need multiple rounds of "apt-get upgrade" to catch up? If you go to a different release (i.e. from woody/stable to sarge/testing), you need to r

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread David Crane
Ron Johnson wrote: Even though the packages have been "removed", the debs still remain in /var/cache/apt/archives. Thus, unless new revisions of the KDE s/w have been released, apt won't re-download the debs. It just gets better and better. Debian APT is brilliant, really. I knew that the *.

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread David Crane
Marc Wilson wrote: On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:38:06AM -0400, David Crane wrote: 12 packages upgraded, 20 newly installed, 65 to remove and 387 not upgraded. Well, it looks like your box is significantly behind in updates. It thinks there are 387 packages available for upgrade, but you're

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson
On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 10:38, David Crane wrote: > Thanks Thomas, > > I had read these FAQs at www.debian.org/devel/testing, and was > prepared for some level of uncertainty. The problem I am getting > doesn't seem to be described in the FAQ, however. Rather, it > doesn't look like there is a pac

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Sun Aug 24, 2003 at 11:38:06AM -0400, David Crane wrote: > doesn't look like there is a package that would replace KDE. It [...] > Is there a way to work out what the actual conflict is, and whether > I will be able to restore the KDE packages? For now you could hold the kde packages and

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread Marc Wilson
On Sun, Aug 24, 2003 at 11:38:06AM -0400, David Crane wrote: > 12 packages upgraded, 20 newly installed, 65 to remove and 387 not upgraded. Well, it looks like your box is significantly behind in updates. It thinks there are 387 packages available for upgrade, but you're not installing any of th

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread David Crane
Thanks Thomas, I had read these FAQs at www.debian.org/devel/testing, and was prepared for some level of uncertainty. The problem I am getting doesn't seem to be described in the FAQ, however. Rather, it doesn't look like there is a package that would replace KDE. It might be that something at

Re: Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread Thomas Krennwallner
Hi! On Sun Aug 24, 2003 at 09:10:18AM -0400, David Crane wrote: > Or are we in a period of an unusual amount of activity in "testing?" http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ says: "This release started as a copy of woody, and is currently in a state called ``testing''. That means that things SH

Today mozilla-firebird Wants To Remove KDE

2003-08-24 Thread David Crane
I just did an "apt-get update" and the package dependencies changed significantly. Now an install of mozilla-firebird will leave diald and pop installed, but it wants to remove most (all?) of KDE. That's unfortunate, since I was just starting to explore things, but it's livable. Is this typical f