Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-20 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Saturday 02 Oct 2004 12:50:25 +0200, Osamu Aoki wrote: Who said Debian has moved completely to UTF-8 ? man, aptitude I thought these are not UTF ready. See BTS. I wish these were. So if you do, you need multiple locales. I suggest creating custom meny for xterm

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-09-30 10:18:45 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 16:39:20 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: It may be a problem with your terminal. I've attached a small file containing characters in UTF-8. Could you save it and cat it in your terminal to see if there are

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-10-01 22:52:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: I note some differences with your output...just not sure how to interpret them. :( It seems to be OK. You have the ASCII hyphen, and the correct UTF-8 sequence for the copyright symbol. If you do man cat and look at the COPYRIGHT

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Martin Dickopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: I note some differences with your output...just not sure how to interpret them. :( They are likely not to be significant; you just seem to have a different version of the man page. If you type PAGER=cat man cat do you see a coypright

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Sep 30, 2004 at 12:03:49AM -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Greetings, Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render very well in Mozilla Firefox. I can start an xterm thusly: ... Since

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Saturday 02 Oct 2004 12:43:08 +0200, Martin Dickopp wrote: If you type PAGER=cat man cat do you see a coypright symbol in the Copyright (C) 2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc. line (i.e., in the place where I have written (C) here)? If you type printf \\302\\251\\n do

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Saturday 02 Oct 2004 10:52:28 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2004-10-01 22:52:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: I note some differences with your output...just not sure how to interpret them. :( It seems to be OK. You have the ASCII hyphen, and the correct UTF-8 sequence for

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-02 Thread Martin Dickopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: As a final minor issue, not critical for me by any means, when I use a working pager like less to view the UTF-8-demon.txt file, the only text that gives a problem (boxes) is Amharic Ethiopian. Same here. It seems the X11 fonts do not (yet?)

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-01 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Friday 01 Oct 2004 01:52:13 +0200, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Martin Dickopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.01.0135 +0200]: On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Greetings, Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales),

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-10-01 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Friday 01 Oct 2004 01:54:19 +0200, Martin Dickopp wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: Context: Debian unstable. [...] Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), I think dpkg-reconfigure locales takes of that, but just to be sure, could

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Andrea Vettorello
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:03:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render very well in Mozilla Firefox. I can start an xterm thusly:

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 08:43:40 +0200, Andrea Vettorello wrote: On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 00:03:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render very

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Arne Gtje ()
On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Greetings, Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man page I get strange chars, e.g.: AFAIK, 'man' does not support UTF-8. Bad luck. :) Take

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 15:06:56 +0800, Arne G?tje (?) wrote: AFAIK, 'man' does not support UTF-8. Bad luck. :) Take a look here when the page is online again. http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/stestu Thanks Arne, I'll save the url. Ironic, given the intent of unicode, that man pages of

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-09-30 00:03:49 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man page I get strange chars, e.g.: man procmailrc (PAGER=/usr/bin/most) yields: delivering and [EMAIL

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 09:39:50 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: In an UTF-8 sequence, you shouldn't have a ^P; this is strange. Now, Debian doesn't use the non-ASCII hyphen to make searching in man pages easier (see /etc/groff/man.local). So, this seems to be a bug in the procmailrc page (or

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2004-09-30 08:54:01 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Another solution which someone was kind enough to send me was to set LC_ALL to C before every invocation of man, which works, but seems kludgy. This just deactivates non-ASCII characters, which should be replaced by ASCII characters.

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
On Thursday 30 Sep 2004 16:39:20 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2004-09-30 08:54:01 -0500, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Another solution which someone was kind enough to send me was to set LC_ALL to C before every invocation of man, which works, but seems kludgy. This just

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Martin Dickopp
Arne Gtje [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Greetings, Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man page I get strange chars, e.g.: AFAIK, 'man' does

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Dickopp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2004.10.01.0135 +0200]: On Thursday 30 September 2004 13:03, Frederick B. Henry Jr. wrote: Greetings, Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), whenever I use any pager (more, less, most) to read a man page I get

Re: UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-30 Thread Martin Dickopp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Frederick B. Henry Jr.) writes: Context: Debian unstable. [...] Since switching my locale to en_US.UTF-8 (dpkg-reconfigure locales), I think dpkg-reconfigure locales takes of that, but just to be sure, could you verify that /etc/locale.gen contains a line en_US.UTF-8

UTF-8 locale, strange chars in X terminal pager(s), specifically man pages

2004-09-29 Thread Frederick B. Henry Jr.
Greetings, Context: Debian unstable. I have the ucs fonts package installed, as well as several classical polytonic Greek fonts, which render very well in Mozilla Firefox. I can start an xterm thusly: xterm -u8 -fn \ '-misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--13-120-75-75-c-60-iso10646-1' It