Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-18 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 01:58:45AM -0600, Noah Duffy wrote: > > Sam, I went with Stable. I picked it mostly because I'm newer to Debian > specifically. I also like the idea of not having to think about > upgrading to a new release every 6 months. If I feel I need the latest > and greatest of so

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-16 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Wed, 2011-02-16 at 11:38 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Wednesday 16 February 2011 11:18:47 Sam Leon wrote: > > I honestly don't know how in the world my sound even works. I don't have > > pulseaudio or jack or any other daemons installed: > > ALSA is sufficient in many desktop situa

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-16 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Wednesday 16 February 2011 11:18:47 Sam Leon wrote: > I honestly don't know how in the world my sound even works. I don't have > pulseaudio or jack or any other daemons installed: ALSA is sufficient in many desktop situations. PulsaAudio has some nice stuff for sound over a network. Jack is

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-16 Thread Sam Leon
On 02/16/2011 01:58 AM, Noah Duffy wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 23:55 -0600, Sam Leon wrote: >> >> I think it just depends on what you are wanting to accomplish. I left MS >> because their OS just tries too hard to do everything for me (and tries >> too hard to take my money). I left ubuntu be

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-16 Thread Michael Tsang
; that they will go to some cockamamie GUI just because Ubuntu did. They > seem to be a bit saner over there. I think Ubuntu is going to lose a lot > of its regular users because of the way they are going and plan to go. > Just my 2¢. I've switched from Ubuntu to Debian last year f

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-16 Thread Ron Johnson
On 02/16/2011 01:58 AM, Noah Duffy wrote: [snip] Well, I got one problem solved. Got the nVidia drivers installed with no problem at all! Using the nvidia-glx appropriate to your card? :) Excellent... My next experiment will have to be with Pulse

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-15 Thread Noah Duffy
On Tue, 2011-02-15 at 23:55 -0600, Sam Leon wrote: > On 02/15/2011 09:36 PM, Noah Duffy wrote: > > Hello, all. I've been an Ubuntu user for quite awhile. Linux has > > been my only OS for over a year now (and I've been using it on and off > > longer than that). I've recently gotten the itch to s

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-15 Thread Sam Leon
On 02/15/2011 09:36 PM, Noah Duffy wrote: Hello, all. I've been an Ubuntu user for quite awhile. Linux has been my only OS for over a year now (and I've been using it on and off longer than that). I've recently gotten the itch to switch to Debian. Ubuntu has worked quite well for me, but wit

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-15 Thread David Christensen
On 02/15/2011 07:36 PM, Noah Duffy wrote: Secondly, I'm going to have to figure out exactly how to install the nVidia drivers for my video card. I've seen that I can do it manually or with the non-free repository. I haven't tried the first method, but installing nvidia-glx just seemed to cause

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-15 Thread Noah Duffy
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:47 PM, Doug wrote: > On 02/15/2011 10:36 PM, Noah Duffy wrote: >> >> Hello, all. ?I've been an Ubuntu user for quite awhile. ?Linux has >> been my only OS for over a year now (and I've been using it on and off >> longer than that). ?I've recently gotten the itch to switch

Re: Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-15 Thread Doug
On 02/15/2011 10:36 PM, Noah Duffy wrote: Hello, all. I've been an Ubuntu user for quite awhile. Linux has been my only OS for over a year now (and I've been using it on and off longer than that). I've recently gotten the itch to switch to Debian. Ubuntu has worked quite well for me, but wit

Trying to Switch from Ubuntu to Debian

2011-02-15 Thread Noah Duffy
Hello, all.  I've been an Ubuntu user for quite awhile.  Linux has been my only OS for over a year now (and I've been using it on and off longer than that). I've recently gotten the itch to switch to Debian. Ubuntu has worked quite well for me, but with everything that is going on with Unity and

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-04 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 02:07:13PM +0200, Joe Hart wrote: > On Thursday 30 August 2007 20:19:06 Britton Kerin wrote: > > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-04 Thread Joe Hart
On Thursday 30 August 2007 20:19:06 Britton Kerin wrote: > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone > could point me to? > > (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which > pa

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-09-02 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > But what if you've been using Ubuntu for seven months now, you have > all your applications install, with all the libraries with version > numbers like "2-3.2-ubuntu-1"? Sure, it's not really a big deal. Those usually don't seem to be any more incompat

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-31 Thread Michael Pobega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Aug 31, 2007 at 11:55:52AM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to > > Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossi

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-31 Thread Kelly Clowers
On 8/30/07, Miles Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to > > Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible and unsupported by the > > Debian com

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-31 Thread 应富鸣
> > My idea is that the problem isn't on the package itself, but on the > dependencies (because I think some packages have different names, so it > could create some conflicts). > > Or does that only apply to more "high-level" files and wouldn't work > with

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-31 Thread Rolando Pereira
应富鸣 wrote: On 8/31/07, Britton Kerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone could point me to? (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which pac

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Charlie wrote: > On Friday 31 August 2007 12:47, Miles Bader shared this with us all: > >--} > >--} -- > >--} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose --Janis > > Joplin > > I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song? And performed it as well. I have a

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Miles Bader
Charlie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >>--} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose --Janis Joplin > > I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song? Yes, he did. Janis sang it. -Miles -- "Nah, there's no bigger atheist than me. Well, I take that back. I'm a cancer screening away

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Britton Kerin wrote: > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone > could point me to? While this is not a "standard" method I think 'debtakeover' is quite a clever method and should work. Here is

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Charlie
On Friday 31 August 2007 12:47, Miles Bader shared this with us all: >--} >--} -- >--} Freedom's just another word, for nothing left to lose --Janis Joplin I thought Kris Kristofferson wrote that song? -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 +++ The temple bell stops

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Miles Bader
Michael Pobega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to > Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible and unsupported by the > Debian community (If you did try it, we probably wouldn't be able to > help yo

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Miles Bader
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Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread cls
[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.] In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: > [snip] >> >> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, >> there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, 应富鸣 wrote: ... > If you want to use GNOME, Ubuntu is also a good choice. It's very > stable. But if you want to use KDE, as far as my experience, KUbuntu > is less stable than both GNOME of Ubuntu and KDE of Debian. I've found Kubuntu quite stable. The only difference

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread 应富鸣
n are not compatible. Once someone wanted to use the source of Debian to install packages in Ubuntu, but finally his Ubuntu crashed. Many people have done this and got the same result. So if you want to transfer Ubuntu to Debian, I suggest you to format your / partition and reinstall Debian. Debia

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Ron Johnson wrote: > Hal Vaughan wrote: > > While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, > > there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a > > root account on any Debian release. The only difference is it doesn't > > have a password on setup. > >

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote: > Celejar wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400 > > > > Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: > >>> [snip] > >>> > While it's just a

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Cassiano Bertol Leal
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Celejar wrote: > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400 > Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: >>> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: >>> [snip] >>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/30/07 15:15, Sarunas Burdulis wrote: > Ron Johnson wrote: >> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] > >>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just >>> semantics, there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be >>> used t

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: > [snip] > >> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, >> there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a >> root account on any Debian relea

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400 Hal Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: > > [snip] > > > > > While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, > > > there is a true root account on Ubuntu

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: > [snip] > > > While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, > > there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as > > a root account on any Debian release. The only diffe

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote: [snip] > > While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just semantics, > there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be used the same as a > root account on any Debian release. The only difference

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Sarunas Burdulis
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Britton Kerin wrote: > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch > it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone > could point me to? There is no standard way. Fresh reinstall is perhaps the closest

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Hal Vaughan
one could point me to? > > > > (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which > > package a program is in looks pretty cute and helpful :) > > > > Thanks, > > Britton > > Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to &

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Michael Pobega
gt; (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which > package a program is in looks pretty cute and helpful :) > > Thanks, > Britton > > Unless you REALLY know what you're doing, upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian (And vice-versa) is nearly impossible an

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Mathias Brodala
Hi. Britton Kerin, 30.08.2007 20:19: > (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which > package a program is in looks pretty cute and helpful :) Not sure what you mean here, but that’s what apt-file is for. Regards, Mathias -- debian/rules signature.asc Description:

Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Cavan Mejias
Just get a debian cd (check architecture) and boot. When it asks what to do tell it to format the entire hard drive and install Debian. Or did you want to keep some aspects of Ubuntu? On 8/30/07, Britton Kerin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and woul

upgrading ubuntu to debian

2007-08-30 Thread Britton Kerin
I just bought a computer that came with ubuntu and would like to switch it to pure debian. Is there a standard way to do this that someone could point me to? (Though I will say that little hack where the shell tells you which package a program is in looks pretty cute and helpful :) Thanks, B

Re: Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-27 Thread Stef Daniels VK5HSX
do my intial attempt of ubuntu to debian was not the best idea. Thanks for all those comments regarding my question on the changeover. -- Regards, Stef Daniels VK5HSX (OpenPGP:0xFDE007F6) Amateur Radio Station Adelaide, South Australia E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member Wi

Re: Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-25 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 12:49:20PM +1030, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > Greetings, > > I have got several Debian installations, however, my desktop > machine has Ubuntu 6.06 installed. What I wish to know is if there is an > easy way to change installations (without actually going through the

Re: Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-25 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 01:50:55AM -0500, Angelo Bertolli wrote: > Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I have got several Debian installations, however, my desktop > > machine has Ubuntu 6.06 installed. What I wish to know is if there is an > > easy way to change installations (

Re: Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-24 Thread Angelo Bertolli
Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > Greetings, > > I have got several Debian installations, however, my desktop > machine has Ubuntu 6.06 installed. What I wish to know is if there is an > easy way to change installations (without actually going through the > install) by changing the repositories an

Re: Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-24 Thread Mike Bird
On Wednesday 24 January 2007 18:19, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > I have got several Debian installations, however, my desktop > machine has Ubuntu 6.06 installed. What I wish to know is if there is an > easy way to change installations (without actually going through the > install) by changin

Re: Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-24 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 12:49:20PM +1030, Stef Daniels VK5HSX wrote: > Greetings, > > I have got several Debian installations, however, my desktop > machine has Ubuntu 6.06 installed. What I wish to know is if there is an > easy way to change installations (without actually going through the

Ubuntu to Debian Installation

2007-01-24 Thread Stef Daniels VK5HSX
Greetings, I have got several Debian installations, however, my desktop machine has Ubuntu 6.06 installed. What I wish to know is if there is an easy way to change installations (without actually going through the install) by changing the repositories and doing #apt-get dist-upgrade as I

Re: Upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian

2006-04-14 Thread Miles Bader
Andrei Popescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 2. change your sources.list to point to debian testing and do a > dist-upgrade. GOOD LUCK!!! ... > The second method is VERY error prone. You might get into dependency > hell, config hell, ... and this (should at least) replaces all > Ubuntu packages wit

Re: Upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian

2006-04-14 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Thursday 13 April 2006 12:38 pm, Chris Dunn so eloquently stated: > I'm coming to Debian via Ubuntu. > > Ubuntu (Breezy Badger) mightily impressed me after struggling for > several years and never quite succeeding with Slackware. I recently moved back to Debian from Ubuntu as I wanted to move t

Re: Upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian

2006-04-14 Thread Jhair Tocancipa Triana
there any established method for moving from Ubuntu to Debian Testing > without doing a complete new installation of Debian? I use Ubuntu and Debian (testing) on my laptop, the Debian install was done through debootstrap. Take a look at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en

Re: Upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian

2006-04-14 Thread Larry Garfield
g with Slackware. > > I'd now like to remove the fluff, and get to the underlying Debian > basics. > > Is there any established method for moving from Ubuntu to Debian Testing > without doing a complete new installation of Debian? > > Chris Dunn -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian

2006-04-14 Thread Andrei Popescu
o remove the fluff, and get to the underlying Debian > basics. > > Is there any established method for moving from Ubuntu to Debian Testing > without doing a complete new installation of Debian? > > Chris Dunn I know of two methods: 1. debootstrap. You can do this even if you h

Upgrading from Ubuntu to Debian

2006-04-14 Thread Chris Dunn
I'm coming to Debian via Ubuntu. Ubuntu (Breezy Badger) mightily impressed me after struggling for several years and never quite succeeding with Slackware. I'd now like to remove the fluff, and get to the underlying Debian basics. Is there any established method for moving from Ubuntu

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-13 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
I did the switcheroo with an apt-get update and an apt-get dist-upgrade.  I had to kill/dispose of a few packages and reload them, but (thanks to dselect pointing out "obsolete" packages) it wasn't all that difficult.  A final cleansing using debfoster, a replacement kernel to get rid of the malfun

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 17:01:30 + Richard Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wednesday, 11 January 2006 at 10:03:34 -0600, Kent West wrote: > > Jay Zach wrote: > > >Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > [...] > > >>I recently purchased a new fancy schmancy Dell a couple of months ago, > > >>and I have b

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Clive Menzies
Kent West wrote: Jay Zach wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Greetings oh most knowledgeable list, I recently purchased a new fancy schmancy Dell a couple of months ago, and I have been delinquent in installing Linux on it. So, I recently purch

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Richard Lyons
On Wednesday, 11 January 2006 at 10:03:34 -0600, Kent West wrote: > Jay Zach wrote: > >Brooks R. Robinson wrote: [...] > >>I recently purchased a new fancy schmancy Dell a couple of months ago, > >>and I have been delinquent in installing Linux on it. So, I recently > >>purchased an additional har

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread hendrik
On Wed, Jan 11, 2006 at 10:03:34AM -0600, Kent West wrote: > Jay Zach wrote: > > > > >If you have your /home directory mounted on a separate partition (I HIGHLY > >recommend this), you can simply install debian, and mount your ubuntu > >/home as > >your /debian home. > > > > Except that he's alr

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Wackojacko
Mike Bird wrote: On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 08:03, Kent West wrote: As I understand it, Brooks, Ubuntu is close enough to Debian that a conversion is possible. Yes, edit your sources.list and do an update/dist-upgrade; you may have to uninstall some stuff along the way and then reinstall it.

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Mike Bird
On Wed, 2006-01-11 at 08:03, Kent West wrote: > > As I understand it, Brooks, Ubuntu is close enough to Debian that a > conversion is possible. Yes, edit your sources.list and do an > update/dist-upgrade; you may have to uninstall some stuff along the way > and then reinstall it. Ubuntu recomp

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Curtis Vaughan
Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Greetings oh most knowledgeable list, I recently purchased a new fancy schmancy Dell a couple of months ago, and I have been delinquent in installing Linux on it. So, I recently purchased an additional hard drive and attempted to put Debian on it (as God intended)

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Kent West
Jay Zach wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Greetings oh most knowledgeable list, I recently purchased a new fancy schmancy Dell a couple of months ago, and I have been delinquent in installing Linux on it. So, I recently purchased an additional

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Jay Zach
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Brooks R. Robinson wrote: > Greetings oh most knowledgeable list, > > I recently purchased a new fancy schmancy Dell a couple of months ago, > and I have been delinquent in installing Linux on it. So, I recently > purchased an additional hard drive

Re: Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Hodgins Family
Good morning! Brooks R. Robinson wrote: Greetings oh most knowledgeable list, Now for the question: Can I, without too much heartburn, upgrade my install the Etch or Sid? Is it as simple as changing my sources.list, doing and apt-get update and an apt-get dist-upgrade? I'm sure I'll end

Ubuntu to Debian

2006-01-11 Thread Brooks R. Robinson
Greetings oh most knowledgeable list,   I recently purchased a new fancy schmancy Dell a couple of months ago, and I have been delinquent in installing Linux on it.  So, I recently purchased an additional hard drive and attempted to put Debian on it (as God intended).  Sarge didn't want to recogniz