Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-31 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 04:22:50PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > I think this depends entirely on the Release Managers and the Security > Team if they allow new upstream versions to fix security bugs instead > of backporting the fixes to the original version in a release. > > Until now IIRC only Fir

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-31 Thread Sven Hartge
The Wanderer wrote: > On 2017-08-11 at 07:18, Sven Hartge wrote: >> Robert Menes wrote: >>> Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or >>> buster yet? >> >> Short Answer: Because of Oracle. >> >> Longer Answer: >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-31 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-08-11 at 07:18, Sven Hartge wrote: > Robert Menes wrote: > >> Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or >> buster yet? > > Short Answer: Because of Oracle. > > Longer Answer: > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466 > > Summary: Virtualbox wil

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-22 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 22-08-17, RavenLX wrote: > On 08/18/2017 10:25 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: > > On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote: > > > On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > > > > RavenLX wrote: > > > > > > > > > I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more > > > > > frequently. But I do wish t

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-22 Thread RavenLX
On 08/18/2017 10:25 AM, Dejan Jocic wrote: On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote: On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: RavenLX wrote: I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that it would be back in Debian.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-19 20:47 +0200 Gilles Mocellin wrote: >Unless you really don't wnt libvirt, you should look at virt-manager. Thanks for the suggestion. I will take a look into libvirt in the unlikely case that my current approach becomes insufficient in the future. So far it works fine. Regards. pg

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, Aug 19, 2017 at 11:02:58AM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-19 17:02 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: > >Which TUI/GUI do you use? > > I do not know what is TUI. Text User Interface / command line. > I don't use any GUI. I write Bash scripts > that call QEMU with the requir

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le samedi 19 août 2017, 17:02:23 CEST Zenaan Harkness a écrit : > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 08:23:13PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Which TUI/GUI do you use? Unless you really don't wnt libvirt, you should look at virt-manager.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-19 17:02 +1000 Zenaan Harkness wrote: >Which TUI/GUI do you use? I do not know what is TUI. I don't use any GUI. I write Bash scripts that call QEMU with the required options and I use “qemu-img” from the command line when needed. >I've been struggling to create a Host-only network. I

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-19 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 08:23:13PM -0500, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > >There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real experience > >with, just read the manuals. Never cared much for QEMU or kvm, but > >that was years ago. Maybe,

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 20:23:13 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: > >There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real > >experience with, just read the manuals. Never cared much for QEMU > >or kvm, but that was years ago. Maybe, they

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-18 17:56 -0700 Patrick Bartek wrote: >There's always VMWare or XEN neither of which I have any real experience >with, just read the manuals. Never cared much for QEMU or kvm, but >that was years ago. Maybe, they're easier to set up and use now.. QEMU has been well documented for as l

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 18:19:53 -0400 RavenLX wrote: > On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX > > wrote: > >> I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something > >> that will allow me to share a directory between host and virtua

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-18 18:19 -0400 RavenLX wrote: >On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: >> Virtualbox has shared folders (directory) as well as shared Clipboard. >> You just need to install Guest Additions in the Guest OS to enable it. >> I use both all the time. > >[elided] > >What other VM syste

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread RavenLX
On 08/18/2017 10:44 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX wrote: I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine, and to be able to go between both quickly (I don't have a

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-18 09:31 -0500 Mario Castelán Castro wrote: >I recommend QEMU. I must note that it features hardware acceleration (KVM >used to be a fork of QEMU to implement this feature but it was merged >back). Moreover, you can use SPICE to >display the guest windows

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Mario Castelán Castro
On 2017-08-18 16:25 +0200 Dejan Jocic wrote: >On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote: >> On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: >> I wonder if there's a replacement for VirtualBox? I need something that >> will allow me to share a directory between host and virtual machine, >> and to be able to go betwe

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Patrick Bartek
On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 10:02:03 -0400 RavenLX wrote: > On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > > RavenLX wrote: > > > >> I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more > >> frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so > >> that it would be back in Debian.

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Dejan Jocic
On 18-08-17, RavenLX wrote: > On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: > > RavenLX wrote: > > > > > I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more > > > frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that > > > it would be back in Debian. > > > > Highly unlik

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread RavenLX
On 08/18/2017 09:14 AM, Sven Hartge wrote: RavenLX wrote: I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that it would be back in Debian. Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software released a

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread Sven Hartge
RavenLX wrote: > I always used the Oracle repo anyway because it was updated more > frequently. But I do wish that something could be worked out so that > it would be back in Debian. Highly unlikely, as Oracle behaves like this for all software released and distributed by them. Grüße, Sven. --

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-18 Thread RavenLX
On 08/15/2017 12:37 AM, Mark Fletcher wrote: On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:18:22PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: Robert Menes wrote: Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or buster yet? Short Answer: Because of Oracle. Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugrepo

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-14 Thread Mark Fletcher
On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 01:18:22PM +0200, Sven Hartge wrote: > Robert Menes wrote: > > > Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or > > buster yet? > > Short Answer: Because of Oracle. > > Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466 > > Summar

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-11 Thread Hans
Sorry, I just forgot about Oracle policy terms. Yes, you are right and I am wrong. Best Hans > Short Answer: Because of Oracle. > > Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466 > > Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in > Testing or an

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-11 Thread Sven Hartge
Robert Menes wrote: > Is there a reason why virtualbox hasn't migrated into stretch or > buster yet? Short Answer: Because of Oracle. Longer Answer: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794466 Summary: Virtualbox will at the current state of affairs never be in Testing or any sta

Re: Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-11 Thread Hans
Am Freitag, 11. August 2017, 07:08:41 CEST schrieb Robert Menes: Did you install the virtualbox-dkms package? If yes, did it build? If yes, can you modprobe virtualbox? If everything fails, try kvm and aqemu as a substitute. Best Hans > Hi all, > > On my home desktop, I'm running Debian on th

Virtualbox for stretch and buster not in repos

2017-08-11 Thread Robert Menes
Hi all, On my home desktop, I'm running Debian on the testing channel (currently at "buster"). A recent apt-get upgrade appears to have broken or removed a few vital virtualbox packages, including virtualbox-dkms. Launching any VM in virtualbox throws this error message: [error] The VirtualBox