Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Greg Vence
Martin Schulze wrote: Ken Gaugler writes: What editors come on the base install? Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? ae is on board. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) We already faught

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Martin Schulze
Greg Vence writes: ae is on board. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) We already faught the fight before - and lost. ae won. :-( There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode. This might be included in further releases.

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Greg Vence
Martin Schulze wrote: Greg Vence writes: ae is on board. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) We already faught the fight before - and lost. ae won. :-( There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode. This might be

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Martin Schulze
On Apr 11, Greg Vence wrote Me too. Apart from the fact that i cannot understand the decision I don't want to perform this fight a second time. This was the decision and now we should al live with it until we find a better solution (which could mean finding a very small vi or reducing

ae (was: What editors are in base?)

1997-04-11 Thread Paul Wade
The only shortcoming I have run into with ae as a base editor is the lack of a basic search command. +--+ + Paul Wade Greenbush Technologies Corporation + + mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Ken Gaugler
Martin Schulze wrote: Greg Vence writes: ae is on board. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) We already faught the fight before - and lost. ae won. :-( There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode. This might be

Re: ae (was: What editors are in base?)

1997-04-11 Thread Rick Hawkins
The only shortcoming I have run into with ae as a base editor is the lack of a basic search command. I've also had screen freezes using it over telnet; i don't know if the new versions of ncurses have fixed this.

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Vadim Vygonets
On Fri, 11 Apr 1997, Ken Gaugler wrote: When I was in school, my UNIX teacher had one immutable law; Thou shalt learn vi. His argument was that no matter what flavor of unix you happen to come across in your career as a unix administrator, there will always be vi on the system. I have to

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread jghasler
Martin Schulze writes: ...there's already a notice that the only installed editor is called ae. Where? John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-11 Thread Bruce Perens
From: someone... I've never seen a base-line Unix box w/o vi that was what prompted the initial mail. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Martin Schulze) Me too. Apart from the fact that i cannot understand the decision [...] It's funny how often this comes up. The reason is that the base system is the

What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Greg Vence
Hello, I need to edit my ppp scripts. What editors come on the base install? Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? Thanx -- Greg.

RE: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Rick
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Just type edit. On 10-Apr-97 Greg Vence wrote: Hello, I need to edit my ppp scripts. What editors come on the base install? Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? Thanx -- Greg. Have a good one

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Greg Vence wrote: Hello, I need to edit my ppp scripts. What editors come on the base install? The editor you are expected to use is ae, but sed is also in base if you really want to abuse yourself. Ae is configured as a modeless editor with a visible help screen, so

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Carey Evans
Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] Well, if I understand the question your command line should look like: cp /dev/console file-name [snip] If you know which Virtual Console you are on, they are accessed through the ttyN devices, so from console 1 the line would look

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread The Tick
On Wed, 9 Apr 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? Well, if I understand the question your command line should look like: cp /dev/console file-name cp /dev/tty1 file-name

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Ken Gaugler
Greg Vence wrote: Hello, I need to edit my ppp scripts. What editors come on the base install? Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? Thanx -- Greg. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) -- Ken Gaugler

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Ken Gaugler writes: What editors come on the base install? Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? ae is on board. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) We already faught the fight before - and lost. ae won

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Rick Hawkins
I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) Don't be silly. It didn't need to be mentioned; he never would have asked the question unless he'd somehow broken vi :) rick

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Thu, 10 Apr 1997, Ken Gaugler wrote: Greg Vence wrote: Hello, I need to edit my ppp scripts. What editors come on the base install? Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? Thanx -- Greg. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Andre Koopal
I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) Vi is not provided on the base disks because of its size. ed is very small :-) Dwarf Andre

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread Chad Zimmerman
scripts. What editors come on the base install? Also, what is the input device for 'cp ' that uses the console for input? Thanx -- Greg. I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there anymore? :-) Vi is not provided on the base disks because of its size

Re: What editors are in base?

1997-04-10 Thread James Troup
Andre Koopal [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Vi is not provided on the base disks because of its size. ed is very small :-) hades|00:08:36 ~ [501] $ls -l $(type -path ed) $(type -path ae) -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root23945 Jun 28 1996 /bin/ae -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root67969 Mar