Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2020-07-10 Thread deloptes
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Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
I for one want to get my money out of my hardware. If you don't want a 64-bit system, then why did you pay for it? +1 Very few people pay for 64bit and most of those who pay are the same who used to pay for GHz rather than for performance (read: Pentium 4). Stefan -- To

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
The 64-bit vs 32-bit argument is multi-faceted. It gets much deeper than just addressing more than 3GB of RAM: * twice the transfer width on the bus Nope, no difference on the bus. Most accesses will be cache-line-sized anyway at that level. You're kidding, right? Not at all. You can

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-14 Thread Stefan Monnier
If you have other i386 machines around, it may be convenient for you to keep the same architecture so you can share the download bandwidth of Debian updates, and things like that. On the other hand, now might be a good time to begin the migration to the future. 32-bits will be around for a

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-13 Thread deloptes
Aaron Toponce wrote: To each their own. I for one want to get my money out of my hardware. If you don't want a 64-bit system, then why did you pay for it? I can witness exactly what you've written after migrating to 64bit kernel and os. It's faster and safer on the same machine with 2GB RAM.

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
What would it be the recommended architecture/versioin to choose for download an install? I'd go with an i386 install unless you have more than 3GB of RAM, in which case I'd go with an amd64 install (or an i386 with a 686-bigmem kernel). If you have other i386 machines around, it may be

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/12/2010 03:53 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: What would it be the recommended architecture/versioin to choose for download an install? I'd go with an i386 install unless you have more than 3GB of RAM, in which case I'd go with an amd64 install (or an i386 with a 686-bigmem kernel). Or i386

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 5/12/2010 2:53 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I'd go with an i386 install unless you have more than 3GB of RAM, in which case I'd go with an amd64 install (or an i386 with a 686-bigmem kernel). The 64-bit vs 32-bit argument is multi-faceted. It gets much deeper than just addressing more than 3GB

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 05/13/2010 12:31 AM, Aaron Toponce wrote: On 5/12/2010 2:53 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: I'd go with an i386 install unless you have more than 3GB of RAM, in which case I'd go with an amd64 install (or an i386 with a 686-bigmem kernel). The 64-bit vs 32-bit argument is multi-faceted.

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread deloptes
Aaron Toponce wrote: If you have the hardware, you should definitely be running a 64-bit operating system, even if you don't have 4GB+ of RAM. +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
The 64-bit vs 32-bit argument is multi-faceted. It gets much deeper than just addressing more than 3GB of RAM: * twice the transfer width on the bus Nope, no difference on the bus. Most accesses will be cache-line-sized anyway at that level. * no memory split issues For =3GB systems,

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Aaron Toponce
On 05/12/2010 07:03 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: The 64-bit vs 32-bit argument is multi-faceted. It gets much deeper than just addressing more than 3GB of RAM: * twice the transfer width on the bus Nope, no difference on the bus. Most accesses will be cache-line-sized anyway at that level.

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Mark Allums
On 5/12/2010 10:41 PM, Aaron Toponce wrote: I for one want to get my money out of my hardware. If you don't want a 64-bit system, then why did you pay for it? +1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-12 Thread Mark Allums
If you have other i386 machines around, it may be convenient for you to keep the same architecture so you can share the download bandwidth of Debian updates, and things like that. On the other hand, now might be a good time to begin the migration to the future. 32-bits will be around for a

What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Oscar Corte
Hi: I would like to test Debian on a new PC. It's a DELL XPS Inspiron 8100 with a Core i5 64 bits processor. What would it be the recommended architecture/versioin to choose for download an install? Could Intel IA-64 work right? Regards

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 05/11/2010 04:40 PM, Oscar Corte wrote: Hi: I would like to test Debian on a new PC. It's a DELL XPS Inspiron 8100 with a Core i5 64 bits processor. What would it be the recommended architecture/versioin to choose for download an install? Could Intel IA-64 work right? Regards

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Oscar Corte oect_1...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi: I would like to test Debian on a new PC. It's a DELL XPS Inspiron 8100 with a Core i5 64 bits processor. What would it be the recommended architecture/versioin to choose for download an install? Could Intel

64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 May 2010 09:56:49 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: (...) There are still minor issues with 64bit desktops. For example, Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. First time I hear such statement. Can you please provide a sample of

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 09:56:49 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: (...) There are still minor issues with 64bit desktops. For example, Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will.

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread deloptes
Jordan Metzmeier wrote: -- Camaleón http://hulu.com is an example. AFAIK its only available to people with U.S. IPs. I'm in europe and it's working fine, though it said that it can not show video because of 64bit limitation on linux. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Anand Sivaram
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 19:26, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Oscar Corte oect_1...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi: I would like to test Debian on a new PC. It's a DELL XPS Inspiron 8100 with a Core i5 64 bits processor. What would it be the

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:06:46 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 09:56:49 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: (...) There are still minor issues with 64bit desktops. For example, Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 10:06:46 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 09:56:49 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: (...) There are still minor issues with 64bit

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 May 2010 11:27:14 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:05 AM, Camaleón wrote: Any other failing site that can be tested by the mere non-US mortals? :-) Not that I know of. Doing a google search, it looks like hulu may be the only issue. I had problems

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
Users having problems with flash plugin on their 64 bits OS can install a 32 bits browser and run the 32 bits plugin, which is annoying but it should work. Does this work natively or does it require a chroot? -- Jordan Metzmeier -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
Users having problems with flash plugin on their 64 bits OS can install a 32 bits browser and run the 32 bits plugin, which is annoying but it should work. Does this work natively or does it require a chroot? Sorry if this is a duplicate, I got a bounce back from the first time I attempted

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 May 2010 12:26:21 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: Users having problems with flash plugin on their 64 bits OS can install a 32 bits browser and run the 32 bits plugin, which is annoying but it should work. Does this work natively or does it require a chroot? Natively... AFAIK, I

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
1/ Firefox can be downloaded from Mozilla site (and Mozilla does not provide a 64-bit version for their browser, only 32-bit binaries). Once downloaded, no need to install anything, just click and run. Then, you can download the flash plugin (32 bits) and store it under Firefox plugins

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. [citation needed] Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. [citation needed] Cheers, Kelly Clowers

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 05/11/2010 09:02 PM, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeiertitan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. [citation needed] Cheers, Kelly Clowers I call bulls**t. -- To

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Mark
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the sites that the 32bit plugin will. [citation needed] Cheers, Kelly Clowers

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:07, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: Adobe's 64bit flash player does not function on all the

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:15, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:07, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:02 PM, Kelly Clowers kelly.clow...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 06:56, Jordan Metzmeier

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:48, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 12:26:21 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: Users having problems with flash plugin on their 64 bits OS can install a 32 bits browser and run the 32 bits plugin, which is annoying but it should work. Does

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Jordan Metzmeier
I am curious, did you all receive duplicates of my last reply? -- Jordan Metzmeier

Re: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?

2010-05-11 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:32, Jordan Metzmeier titan8...@gmail.com wrote: I am curious, did you all receive duplicates of my last reply? Yep -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: 64 bit-flash failing sites (was: What to choose for Core i5 64 bits?)

2010-05-11 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 11 May 2010 11:28:00 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 09:48, Camaleón wrote: On Tue, 11 May 2010 12:26:21 -0400, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: Users having problems with flash plugin on their 64 bits OS can install a 32 bits browser and run the 32 bits plugin, which is