On Lu, 17 mar 14, 08:46:08, Richard Owlett wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 15 mar 14, 09:08:52, Richard Owlett wrote:
Sequence was:
Do full install install of Squeeze to sda1. Only non-default was
size of install partition.
Well, setting a root password is quite a weak
On Lu, 17 mar 14, 08:43:24, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 17/03/14 04:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 mar 14, 01:24:03, Scott Ferguson wrote:
In the spirit of investigation I tried testing a few methods of
disabling root login (there are likely other methods)
AFAIK the installer
On Sunday 16 March 2014 22:42:17 Brian wrote:
On Sun 16 Mar 2014 at 18:50:22 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 16 March 2014 17:52:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
When you boot in Recovery mode you get a
root shell without supplying any password.
Is Recovery mode not the same as single
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 15 mar 14, 09:08:52, Richard Owlett wrote:
Sequence was:
Do full install install of Squeeze to sda1. Only non-default was
size of install partition.
Well, setting a root password is quite a weak default. If you just
press enter (leaving the password
On Du, 16 mar 14, 01:24:03, Scott Ferguson wrote:
In the spirit of investigation I tried testing a few methods of
disabling root login (there are likely other methods)
AFAIK the installer uses 'passswd -l'.
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Sb, 15 mar 14, 09:08:52, Richard Owlett wrote:
Sequence was:
Do full install install of Squeeze to sda1. Only non-default was
size of install partition.
Well, setting a root password is quite a weak default. If you just
press enter (leaving the password blank) you get the sudo
On Sb, 15 mar 14, 09:34:22, Richard Owlett wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 15 mar 14, 05:45:14, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is there
some way I could have gained access as root?
- Debian installer rescue mode
I was
On Sunday 16 March 2014 17:52:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
When you boot in Recovery mode you get a
root shell without supplying any password.
Is Recovery mode not the same as single user? I have always been
asked for the root password to log in to single user in Debian.
I have just rebooted
On 17/03/14 04:44, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Du, 16 mar 14, 01:24:03, Scott Ferguson wrote:
In the spirit of investigation I tried testing a few methods of
disabling root login (there are likely other methods)
AFAIK the installer uses 'passswd -l'.
Kind regards, Andrei
Thanks for the
On Sun 16 Mar 2014 at 18:50:22 +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Sunday 16 March 2014 17:52:02 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
When you boot in Recovery mode you get a
root shell without supplying any password.
Is Recovery mode not the same as single user?
It is.
I'm running a series of experiments installing multiple versions
of Squeeze on a dedicated machine. The machine is dedicated to
experimentation and the lifetime of any install may intentionally
be only hours or days.
The complete hard drive is wiped at least once a month. I
consistently use
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 05:45:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password,
is there some way I could have gained access as root?
The classic approach to this problem is to pass 'init=/bin/sh' to the
kernel. The method for doing so depends
On 15/03/14 21:45, Richard Owlett wrote:
I'm running a series of experiments installing multiple versions of
Squeeze on a dedicated machine. The machine is dedicated to
experimentation and the lifetime of any install may intentionally be
only hours or days.
The complete hard drive is wiped
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way I could have gained access as root?
If you don't remember the root's password you need to chroot or
systemd-nspawn -D. A hint that very often is
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
passwd `grep 1000 /etc/passwd | cut -d : -f1`
Likely that it's 1000, but it could be another uid ;p.
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On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:09:33PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 21:45, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is
there some way I could have gained access as root?
# passwd `grep 1000 /etc/passwd | cut -d : -f1`
That doesn't
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way I could have gained access as root?
If you remember the root password, than I don't
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:29 +, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:09:33PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 21:45, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is
there some way I could have gained access as root?
#
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:33 +, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way I could have gained access as
On Saturday 15 March 2014 11:33:50 Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way I could have gained access as
On 15/03/14 22:29, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:09 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
passwd `grep 1000 /etc/passwd | cut -d : -f1`
Likely that it's 1000, but it could be another uid ;p.
Could be, but very unlikely - it's the default first UID, and will be
Richard's user
On 15/03/14 22:29, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:09:33PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 21:45, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way I could have gained access as
root?
# passwd `grep 1000
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 12:38 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 11:33 +, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
On 15/03/14 22:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 15 March 2014 11:33:50 Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way
On 15/03/14 22:33, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way I could have gained access as
root?
If you
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:53 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 22:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 15 March 2014 11:33:50 Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 12:58 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:53 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 22:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 15 March 2014 11:33:50 Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at
On 15/03/14 22:58, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:53 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 22:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 15 March 2014 11:33:50 Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 05:45 -0500, Richard
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 23:08 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 22:58, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 22:53 +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 22:43, Lisi Reisz wrote:
On Saturday 15 March 2014 11:33:50 Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:22:10PM +0100, Ralf
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:58:59PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
Tom is smarter than we are, it's likely that his guess is correct. The
OP confused the term for
I am far from it, and Lisi and Scott have both made excellent points
that illustrate that.
no root account, but the first user has got
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 12:21 +, Tom Furie wrote:
ctrl-alt-bspace
By default it's disabled, not only for Debian :D, only dinos know this
shortcut.
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On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:21:27PM +, Tom Furie wrote:
It does seem much more likely that Scott is correct and root logins are
only disabled at the graphical login - as Scott says, that is the
default configuration - in which case Richard should be able to
ctrl-alt-Fn to a virtual
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 12:38 +, Tom Furie wrote:
Without further input from Richard we have no way of knowing for
certain what the exact situation is.
We have got ;).
You are right, Mrs. L, Mr. S and I'm mistaken. You are only mistaken to
your self-doubts.
Richard has got no root password.
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 05:45:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
The complete hard drive is wiped at least once a month. I
consistently use my name as the login on the first install of any
series. The login of any subsequent install will be a mnemonic
associated associated with the current
On Sb, 15 mar 14, 05:45:14, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is there
some way I could have gained access as root?
- Debian installer rescue mode
- boot in recovery mode[1]
Could you please clarify for us how you know the root password,
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 22:29, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:09:33PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 21:45, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way I could have gained access as
root?
#
On Sat 15 Mar 2014 at 15:01:26 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 15 mar 14, 05:45:14, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is there
some way I could have gained access as root?
- Debian installer rescue mode
- boot in recovery
On 15/03/14 23:38, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 12:21:27PM +, Tom Furie wrote:
It does seem much more likely that Scott is correct and root
logins are only disabled at the graphical login - as Scott says,
that is the default configuration - in which case Richard should
be
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
On Sb, 15 mar 14, 05:45:14, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password, is there
some way I could have gained access as root?
- Debian installer rescue mode
I was thinking of that as an instance of having another OS
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:01:15 +
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 05:45:14AM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root password,
is there some way I could have gained access as root?
The classic approach to this
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 12:38:48 +
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
Having gone back to re-read Richard's original post, he does state
that he was bringing up an install without GUI. Which poses the
question why not just log in as root to get the user name? unless
root logins are disabled,
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 09:34:22 -0500
Richard Owlett rowl...@cloud85.net wrote:
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
[1] not sure how this works with a disabled root account though, in
case you chose this during installation. Would a kind list
subscriber with such a setup please test and clarify this for
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 15:01 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
We are close to taking bets :)
Now you're mistaken, we already were taking bets.
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On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 09:08 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote:
4. Ralf was correct saying IOW the OP remembers the password
for UID 1000, but not the name for UID.
:D
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On Sat 15 Mar 2014 at 11:25:41 -0400, Steve Litt of Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:01:15 +
Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
The classic approach to this problem is to pass 'init=/bin/sh' to the
kernel. The method for doing so depends on which boot manager you
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 11:25:41AM -0400, Steve Litt of
Troubleshooters.Com wrote:
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:01:15 + Tom Furie t...@furie.org.uk wrote:
The classic approach to this problem is to pass 'init=/bin/sh' to
the kernel.
Do you think this is going to continue working when we
On Sat, 2014-03-15 at 17:28 +, Tom Furie wrote:
systemd will replace the current init system but will still
require a /sbin/init.
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ ls -hAl /sbin/init
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 Mar 6 23:22 /sbin/init - ../lib/systemd/systemd
My Debian install still does use
On 20140315_090852, Richard Owlett wrote:
Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 22:29, Tom Furie wrote:
On Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 10:09:33PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote:
On 15/03/14 21:45, Richard Owlett wrote:
If another OS had not been available but I knew the root
password, is there some way
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