Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 01:54:26PM -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote: Google Talk can to connect to transports (for yahoo, msn, ect) on other severs. http://blogoscoped.com/archive/2006-05-02-n79.html It still needs a third server, but apparently you don't need to subscribe. Can anyone

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 09:24:49AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Ones that support open standards are best. My suggestions: * Any IM server supporting the XMPP instant messaging standard (such as Google Talk, LiveJournal Talk, jabber.org, etc.). There's really no reason

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-21 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 09:24:49AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: Ones that support open standards are best. My suggestions: * Any IM server supporting the XMPP instant messaging standard (such as Google

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use it. :) As well it should. Why are you running as root? I disagree. I agree that in 99% of cases running normal UL applications as root is a bad idea,

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 04:04:10PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use it. :) As well it should. Why are you running as root? I disagree. I agree

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Rich Healey
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 04:04:10PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use it. :) As well it

RE: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Star Liu
Thanks for recommending the gaim, i finally found the right IM software which support chinese input on etch! I'd like to make a report on my thoughts 1. my favorite IM softwares: gaim,amsn on etch, pidgin,amsn,emesene on lenny, for I use MSN most 2. for blog, i decide to make my own machine a

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/16/08 07:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] A certain version of SuSE would set the desktop background to red if you logged in as root. As did Mandrake, when I left it for Debian. I always thought it was a good idea. - -- Ron Johnson, Jr.

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 09:32 +0800, Star Liu wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a windows user for a so long time. Two weeks before, I installed

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sat, 2008-06-14 at 20:52 -0700, Lee Glidewell wrote: On Saturday 14 June 2008 06:32:59 pm Star Liu wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a

RE: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sun, 2008-06-15 at 18:46 +0800, Star Liu wrote: I have tried emesene, it's excellent! except that it refuses root to use it. :) This is a feature, not a bug. You should never, ever log in as root. Just use your normal user account and only use root when root permissions are actually

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 16:04 +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use it. :) As well it should. Why are you running as root? I disagree. I agree that in 99% of cases running normal UL applications as root

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 10:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 07:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] A certain version of SuSE would set the desktop background to red if you logged in as root. As did Mandrake, when I left it for Debian. I always thought it was a good idea. Seems

RE: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
Please demonstrate that you made it through school having learned that most languages flow in logical order from the top down, not in random order. The best way to do so is to stop top posting. http://learn.to/quote On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 20:35 +0800, Star Liu wrote: Thanks for recommending the

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 16 June 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 10:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 07:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] A certain version of SuSE would set the desktop background to red if you logged in as root. As did Mandrake, when I left it for Debian.

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/16/08 11:52, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Monday 16 June 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 10:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 07:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] A certain version of SuSE would set the desktop background to

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Hal Vaughan
On Monday 16 June 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 11:52, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Monday 16 June 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 10:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 07:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] A certain version of SuSE would set the desktop background

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 12:52 -0400, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Monday 16 June 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 10:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 07:09, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: [snip] A certain version of SuSE would set the desktop background to red if you logged

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/16/08 13:00, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Monday 16 June 2008, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 11:52, Hal Vaughan wrote: On Monday 16 June 2008, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 10:17 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/16/08 07:09, Tzafrir

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 09:35:40AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 20:35 +0800, Star Liu wrote: Thanks for recommending the gaim, i finally found the right IM software which support chinese input on etch! I'd like to make a report on my thoughts 1. my favorite IM

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 18:41 +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 09:35:40AM -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, 2008-06-16 at 20:35 +0800, Star Liu wrote: Thanks for recommending the gaim, i finally found the right IM software which support chinese input on etch! I'd

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-16 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 10:18:06PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: Tzafrir Cohen wrote: On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 04:04:10PM +1000, Rich Healey wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Johnson wrote: On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use

RE: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread Star Liu
I use the default installation of etch and lenny, yes, in fact they work quite fine, so maybe i should keep them. :) Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:47:10 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Which IM, blog and email

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/08 04:54, Star Liu wrote: I use the default installation of etch and lenny, yes, in fact they work quite fine, so maybe i should keep them. :) I guess that's GNOME? What's the they that work fine? Iceweasel/Firefox, Epiphany, Evolution,

RE: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread Star Liu
I have tried emesene, it's excellent! except that it refuses root to use it. :) I'm also happy to know the jabber and wordpress. thanks! **Buddha Debian GNU/Linux MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/15/08 05:46, Star Liu wrote: snip except that it refuses root to use it. :) As well it should. Why are you running as root? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Kittens give Morbo gas. In lighter news, the city of New New York is

RE: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread Star Liu
I'm happy to know the gnome-blog and gtalk, but it seems by default gtalk doesn't with in lenny, after i installed, i found nothing in my internet menu, and the bash doesn't know gtalk. **Buddha Debian GNU/Linux MSN:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread pascalv
On Jun 15, 3:40 am, Star Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a windows user for a so long time. Two weeks before, I

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sun, Jun 15, 2008 at 4:43 AM, Star Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm happy to know the gnome-blog and gtalk, but it seems by default gtalk doesn't with in lenny, after i installed, i found nothing in my internet menu, and the bash doesn't know gtalk. Are you trying to use the gtalk client?

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-15 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Star Liu wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a windows user for a so long time. Two weeks before, I installed debian etch and lenny, and i

Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-14 Thread Star Liu
Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a windows user for a so long time. Two weeks before, I installed debian etch and lenny, and i like it very much.

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-14 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/14/08 20:32, Star Liu wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a windows user for a so long

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-14 Thread Lee Glidewell
On Saturday 14 June 2008 06:32:59 pm Star Liu wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a windows user for a so long time. Two weeks before, I

Re: Which IM, blog and email service are best for debian users?

2008-06-14 Thread Ignacio Mondino
Star Liu wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm sorry to ask this silly question here. I'm now using the microsoft live messenger, live spaces and hotmail as my IM, blog and email service provider, because i'm a windows user for a so long time. Two weeks before, I installed debian etch and lenny, and i like