Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-13 Thread Sam Kuper
2009/4/11 Mark Allums m...@allums.com As has been mentioned in another thread, RAID 1 pairs with LVM is pretty safe and flexible. The disadvantage is when adding more capacity, you have to add drives in pairs. With RAID 5, you don't have to add in pairs: just add a drive when you want to.

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-13 Thread Mark Allums
Sam Kuper wrote: 2009/4/11 Mark Allums m...@allums.com mailto:m...@allums.com As has been mentioned in another thread, RAID 1 pairs with LVM is pretty safe and flexible. The disadvantage is when adding more capacity, you have to add drives in pairs. With RAID 5, you don't have to

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-12 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 08:54:56AM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:20:38PM +1000, Alex Samad (a...@samad.com.au) wrote: i think you have just proven my point, its not a simple process Of course. As I wrote earlier: recovery of a partially lost lv is

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-12 Thread Stefan Monnier
If someone has actual experience about dealing with lost disk in WHS, please tell us. Actually, I'd rather you don't tell us: just tell him. This is a mailing list dedicated to Debian, so Windows discussions are off-topic. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

GlusterFS (was Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent)

2009-04-12 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 04:08:30PM -0400, Stefan Monnier (monn...@iro.umontreal.ca) wrote: If someone has actual experience about dealing with lost disk in WHS, please tell us. Actually, I'd rather you don't tell us: just tell him. This is a mailing list dedicated to Debian, so Windows

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-12 Thread Amit Uttamchandani
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 23:13:36 -0700 (PDT) Phillipus Gunawan mr_philli...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi There, My friend told me about Home Server, and when I have a read about it, wow The only feature that interest me is Drive Extender (taken from Windows Home Server Technical Brief - Drive

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:13:57PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Stefan Monnier wrote: [snip] As a general rule, you're better off relying on backups or RAID to handle such situations anyway. Or seen from another point of view: if it's OK with you to lose an arbitrarily chosen 1/3 or 1/2 of

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 09:11:27AM +1000, Alex Samad (a...@samad.com.au) wrote: but the marketing brief seems to suggest that if you lose a drive you only lose the files that were on there. I would take that with a big grain of salt. Marketing briefs suggesting things without explicitly

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Alex Samad wrote: availability - mainly done by looking at raid levels manageablility - lvm / mdm backups - only way to do this is backuping up info, raid doesn't help with rm -fr / Not just answering your post in particular, but I thought I would jump into this

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:28:35AM +0100, Alan Chandler (a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk) wrote: Somewhile ago after looking at all the options, I came to the conclusion that raid1 + lvm + daily cron driven backups to another machine was my best solution for keeping. That's what I do, too.

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Alan Chandler
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:28:35AM +0100, Alan Chandler (a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk) wrote: I am currently planning my next upgrades - my desktop machine has run out of disk space, my server is getting old and has also almost run out of

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 12:43:07PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 09:11:27AM +1000, Alex Samad (a...@samad.com.au) wrote: but the marketing brief seems to suggest that if you lose a drive you only lose the files that were on there. I would take that with a big

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:51:41AM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote: On Saturday 11 April 2009, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:28:35AM +0100, Alan Chandler (a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk) wrote: I am currently planning my next upgrades - my desktop machine has run out of disk

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 08:15:04AM +1000, Alex Samad (a...@samad.com.au) wrote: recovery of a partially lost lv is rather painful. somebody else suggested a process on how to fix a missing pv (using /dev/zero) and then fsck'ing thus giving you a mountable partition, but how do you tell

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Alex Samad
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 08:09:39AM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 08:15:04AM +1000, Alex Samad (a...@samad.com.au) wrote: recovery of a partially lost lv is rather painful. somebody else suggested a process on how to fix a missing pv (using /dev/zero) and

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-11 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Sun, Apr 12, 2009 at 03:20:38PM +1000, Alex Samad (a...@samad.com.au) wrote: i think you have just proven my point, its not a simple process Of course. As I wrote earlier: recovery of a partially lost lv is rather painful. Although if the file - pv mapping was commonly needed, it

WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Phillipus Gunawan
Hi There, My friend told me about Home Server, and when I have a read about it, wow The only feature that interest me is Drive Extender (taken from Windows Home Server Technical Brief - Drive Extender.docx) As you add more hard drives to your home server, they are treated as a single large

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In 727247.1222...@web65713.mail.ac4.yahoo.com, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: My friend told me about Home Server, and when I have a read about it, wow The only feature that interest me is Drive Extender (taken from Windows Home Server Technical Brief - Drive Extender.docx) As you add more hard

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Tapani Tarvainen
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 03:04:22AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. (b...@iguanasuicide.net) wrote: (taken from Windows Home Server Technical Brief - Drive Extender.docx) As you add more hard drives to your home server, they are treated as a single large pool of available storage space.

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread kj
On 10/4/09 07:13, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: [snip] The question is. What would be any package that can replace this Home Server in Debian' way [snip] LVM can do all of this. If you just want to plug in drives without thinking about it, get a drobo - www.drobo.com - it does exactly this.

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Tim McDonough
Phillipus Gunawan wrote: My friend told me about Home Server, and when I have a read about it, wow The only feature that interest me is Drive Extender (taken from Windows Home Server Technical Brief - Drive Extender.docx) As you add more hard drives to your home server, they are treated

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 08:19:38AM -0500, Tim McDonough wrote: Phillipus Gunawan wrote: My friend told me about Home Server, and when I have a read about it, wow The only feature that interest me is Drive Extender (taken from Windows Home Server Technical Brief - Drive Extender.docx)

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 11:13:36PM -0700, Phillipus Gunawan wrote: Hi There, My friend told me about Home Server, and when I have a read about it, wow The only feature that interest me is Drive Extender (taken from Windows Home Server Technical Brief - Drive Extender.docx) [snip]

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Stefan Monnier
but the marketing brief seems to suggest that if you lose a drive you only lose the files that were on there. with lvm you would lose any lv that has blocks on that drive Not sure what Windows really guarantees in this regard, but yes, losing a drive that is part of a larger volume is a

Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent

2009-04-10 Thread Mark Allums
Stefan Monnier wrote: but the marketing brief seems to suggest that if you lose a drive you only lose the files that were on there. with lvm you would lose any lv that has blocks on that drive Not sure what Windows really guarantees in this regard, but yes, losing a drive that is part of a