Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance)

2017-12-27 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/26/2017 11:28 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:35:16 PM Ric Moore wrote: If you used it to any etent it was. I racked up several bills in the hundreds, doing what we take for granted nowadays. Luckily I had a moderator friend! Ric Thanks! I guess then I'm

Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance)

2017-12-26 Thread rhkramer
On Tuesday, December 26, 2017 12:35:16 PM Ric Moore wrote: > On 12/23/2017 03:50 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 03:31:31 PM Ric Moore wrote: > >> Bob's your uncle. BTW, Google is no where as obnoxious as AOL during the > >> old days when you could be paying hundred

Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance)

2017-12-26 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/23/2017 03:50 PM, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, December 23, 2017 03:31:31 PM Ric Moore wrote: Bob's your uncle. BTW, Google is no where as obnoxious as AOL during the old days when you could be paying hundreds a month for access to the web and email. I'll take Google any day and

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/23/2017 08:31 PM, Celejar wrote: On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 15:10:27 -0600 Kent West wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: ... I've never used youtube before. I received a link to a youtube video which played fine. I d

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Celejar
On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 15:10:27 -0600 Kent West wrote: > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: ... > > I've never used youtube before. > > I received a link to a youtube video > ?v=82_bPWyrPFc> which played fine. > > > > I did not have time to wat

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread The Wanderer
On 2017-12-23 at 20:47, Jude DaShiell wrote: > Correction on that software package, it's called cclive and it > downloads youtube videos and is a command line app for those that can > handle the command line. (Why did you post that _after_ the '-- ' signature-delimiter line? That makes it unneces

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, songbird wrote: Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 08:48:53 From: songbird To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Youtube - newbie guidance Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 14:06:55 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-user@lists.debian.org Carl Fink wrote: On 12/22/2017 05:57 PM

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Charlie Gibbs
On 23/12/17 02:02 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/22/2017 04:06 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Richard Owlett writes: I've never used youtube before. One thing to note explicitly: YouTube is deliberately designed to thwart downloading videos. YouTube's owner (Google, Alphabet, whatever they call

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread davidson
On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, Brian wrote: On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 05:21:33 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/23/2017 04:55 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 04:10:00 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/22/2017 09:00 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: cliget or youtube-viewer or youtube-dl can do that, bu

Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance)

2017-12-23 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/23/17, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 03:50:34PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >>This is OT, but I remember AOL as being expensive, but I didn't think it >> was >>hundreds per month. > > It really depended on how much self control you had--in the early 90s it > was like $6

Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance)

2017-12-23 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 12/23/17, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: > On Saturday, December 23, 2017 03:31:31 PM Ric Moore wrote: >> Bob's your uncle. BTW, Google is no where as obnoxious as AOL during the >> old days when you could be paying hundreds a month for access to the web >> and email. I'll take Google any day and th

Re: OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance)

2017-12-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 03:50:34PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: This is OT, but I remember AOL as being expensive, but I didn't think it was hundreds per month. It really depended on how much self control you had--in the early 90s it was like $6/hr.

OT: AOL fees (Re: Youtube - newbie guidance)

2017-12-23 Thread rhkramer
On Saturday, December 23, 2017 03:31:31 PM Ric Moore wrote: > Bob's your uncle. BTW, Google is no where as obnoxious as AOL during the > old days when you could be paying hundreds a month for access to the web > and email. I'll take Google any day and thank them for the huge > freebies. Ric This i

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Ric Moore
On 12/23/2017 05:02 AM, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/22/2017 04:06 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Richard Owlett writes: I've never used youtube before. One thing to note explicitly: YouTube is deliberately designed to thwart downloading videos. YouTube's owner (Google, Alphabet, whatever they call

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Curt
On 2017-12-23, Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> ... why I'd *never* *ever* be "logged into" any of the YT or Google >> accounts. It's enough to make trackability easier for them whithin >> a session, but across sessions? Disgusting. >> >> > on another device and navigate to that video [...] >> >> And the

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Carl Fink
On 12/23/2017 08:48 AM, songbird wrote: Carl Fink wrote: On 12/22/2017 05:57 PM, songbird wrote: ... there is a pause button, just don't close the tab. :) This is incorrect. Google/Alphabet is not stupid. If you pause a video you can then close the tab, the browser, turn off the computer

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 23 December 2017 05:19:48 to...@tuxteam.de wrote: > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 07:40:56PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: > > [...] > > > This is incorrect. Google/Alphabet is not stupid [...] > > That's *exactly* the reason... > > > [...] If you were logged into your YouTube (Google) account [..

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread songbird
Carl Fink wrote: > On 12/22/2017 05:57 PM, songbird wrote: ... >>there is a pause button, just don't close the >> tab. :) > > This is incorrect. Google/Alphabet is not stupid. If you pause a video > you can then close the tab, the browser, turn off the computer. If > you were logged into your

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Curt
On 2017-12-23, Brian wrote: >> >> That did very nicely. The Debian package includes "mpv Media Player". > > Really? > It's a total rec. -- "An autobiography is only to be trusted when it reveals something disgraceful. A man who gives a good account of himself is probably lying, since any life

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Brian
On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 12:55:05 +0100, deloptes wrote: > Brian wrote: > > > You remarked that youtube-viewer was not in the Debian archives; this > > is correct. I provided a way for users to get and install it. > > this is bad advise - you can not do this here on the list - IMO you should > take

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread deloptes
Brian wrote: > You remarked that youtube-viewer was not in the Debian archives; this > is correct. I provided a way for users to get and install it. this is bad advise - you can not do this here on the list - IMO you should take it off next time regards

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Brian
On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 05:21:33 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/23/2017 04:55 AM, Brian wrote: > > On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 04:10:00 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > On 12/22/2017 09:00 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > cliget or youtube-viewer or youtube-dl can do that, but cliget does it

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Brian
On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 05:39:46 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/22/2017 03:10 PM, Kent West wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > > > > > I use User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 > > > Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 on a Debian Stretc

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/22/2017 03:10 PM, Kent West wrote: On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: I use User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 on a Debian Stretch machine with the MATE desktop. I've never used youtube before. I received a l

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/23/2017 04:55 AM, Brian wrote: On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 04:10:00 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: On 12/22/2017 09:00 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: cliget or youtube-viewer or youtube-dl can do that, but cliget does it with least complexity. Neither cliget nor youtube-viewer appear to be in Debia

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Brian
On Sat 23 Dec 2017 at 04:10:00 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > On 12/22/2017 09:00 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > cliget or youtube-viewer or youtube-dl can do that, but cliget does it > > with least complexity. > > > > Neither cliget nor youtube-viewer appear to be in Debian repository. youtube-v

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread tomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 07:40:56PM -0500, Carl Fink wrote: [...] > This is incorrect. Google/Alphabet is not stupid [...] That's *exactly* the reason... > [...] If you were logged into your YouTube (Google) account [...] ... why I'd *never* *ever*

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/22/2017 09:00 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote: cliget or youtube-viewer or youtube-dl can do that, but cliget does it with least complexity. Neither cliget nor youtube-viewer appear to be in Debian repository.

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-23 Thread Richard Owlett
On 12/22/2017 04:06 PM, Ben Finney wrote: Richard Owlett writes: I've never used youtube before. One thing to note explicitly: YouTube is deliberately designed to thwart downloading videos. YouTube's owner (Google, Alphabet, whatever they call themselves next year) have chosen a business mo

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
cliget or youtube-viewer or youtube-dl can do that, but cliget does it with least complexity. On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Richard Owlett wrote: Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:04:06 From: Richard Owlett To: debian-user Subject: Youtube - newbie guidance Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 21:04:33 + (UTC

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Carl Fink
On 12/22/2017 05:57 PM, songbird wrote: Ben Finney wrote: Richard asked: ... Is there some way to pause a video if I'm interrupted? This, too, works against the business model the site owners have chosen. I expect they will never implement such a feature. there is a pause button, just don

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Brian
On Fri 22 Dec 2017 at 15:04:06 -0600, Richard Owlett wrote: > I use User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 > Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 on a Debian Stretch machine with the MATE > desktop. > > I've never used youtube before. > I received a link to a youtube video >

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread songbird
Ben Finney wrote: >> Richard asked: ... >> Is there some way to pause a video if I'm interrupted? > > This, too, works against the business model the site owners have chosen. > I expect they will never implement such a feature. there is a pause button, just don't close the tab. :) the altern

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Ben Finney
Andre Majorel writes: > You occasionally have to install a new version [of ‘youtube-dl’] from > upstream, which in this case is easy : download from their site and > plop into /usr/local/bin or ~/bin so that command "youtube-dl" refers > to the new version instead of the now useless /usr/bin/yout

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Andre Majorel
On 2017-12-23 09:06 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > Just be prepared for the site owner's indifference, even > hostility, to any such tool. None of them will keep working > when YouTube is arbitrarily changed, which happens a number of > times each year. Right. You occasionally have to install a new v

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Ben Finney
Richard Owlett writes: > I've never used youtube before. One thing to note explicitly: YouTube is deliberately designed to thwart downloading videos. YouTube's owner (Google, Alphabet, whatever they call themselves next year) have chosen a business model [0] that benefits when more people keep

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Kent West wrote: > >> # apt-get install youtube-dl > # youtube-dl > # > > Example: > # youtube-dl https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDqCpfVwdP4 > # vlc Why\ making\ energy\ from\ dirt\ might\ save\ the\ world\ _\ Rusty\ > Towell\ _\ TEDxACU-jDqCpfVwdP4.mkv > > Er

Re: Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Kent West
On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > I use User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 > Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 on a Debian Stretch machine with the MATE > desktop. > > I've never used youtube before. > I received a link to a youtube video

Youtube - newbie guidance

2017-12-22 Thread Richard Owlett
I use User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48 on a Debian Stretch machine with the MATE desktop. I've never used youtube before. I received a link to a youtube video which played fine. I did n