Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-10-01 Thread Fabrice BAUZAC-STEHLY
David Wright writes: > On Tue 29 Sep 2020 at 15:50:35 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: >> But how could you have some assurance that that data relates to what >> their users thought of to be? > > You can't. That's not what CRCs are for. They're not cryptographic, > so they are useless for any

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-10-01 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 29 sep 20, 16:20:10, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > I don't know of a single "secure"/"private" OS, software stack or any > such approaches being taken seriously. Do you? Tails: https://tails.boum.org/ Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser signature.asc

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Dan Ritter
David Wright wrote: > On Tue 29 Sep 2020 at 15:50:35 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > > On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > > >> >> public Windows

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread David Wright
On Tue 29 Sep 2020 at 15:50:35 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > >> >> public Windows machine? > >> > > >> > I'm not sure I

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Reco
Hi. On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 03:50:35PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > >> >> public Windows machine? > >> > > >> >

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
> If you want to defend against on-disk corruption, use ZFS. > If you want to be alerted to every change to a set of files, use > tripwire or aide. Both are packaged for Debian. > ... Really?!? Well, I would say that is only part of the story and not even the most interesting one. I am amazed

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/25/20, Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >>I can't believe the answer is as simple as visiting >>https://packages.debian.org/index >>and downloading the packages you want (in binary mode). > > Plus (possibly several) iterations of

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/24/20, Reco wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: >> >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a >> >> public Windows machine? >> > >> > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the >> > previous one. >> >>

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-29 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/26/20, Michael Stone wrote: > On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 02:11:30PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: >>On 9/25/20, Michael Stone wrote: >>> Just one would be good enough (pick the sha256sum). What you're doing is >>> a waste of time. If you want to future proof then use sha3, via the >>> rhash

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Sep 26, 2020 at 02:11:30PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: On 9/25/20, Michael Stone wrote: Just one would be good enough (pick the sha256sum). What you're doing is a waste of time. If you want to future proof then use sha3, via the rhash package. Something that I have noticed is that

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-26 Thread Dan Ritter
mick crane wrote: > > When all this internet kicked off I thought anybody could have a go but > apparently you need to be with a provider. If you have enough money, skill, and time you can be your own ISP. The nature of "ISP" is in the first word, "Internet". It requires you to be connected to

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-26 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/25/20, Michael Stone wrote: > Just one would be good enough (pick the sha256sum). What you're doing is > a waste of time. If you want to future proof then use sha3, via the > rhash package. Something that I have noticed is that texts are too close to people's hearts to expect for people to

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread David Wright
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 10:33:51 (+0100), Jonathan Dowland wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > > On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > > > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > > > >> public Windows

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread mick crane
On 2020-09-25 23:42, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 25 September 2020 18:10:42 Stefan Monnier wrote: > He may have changed it, but at the time I first started using it on > a "pc" it had to be registered before it would access the 2nd port. I don't understand what you're referring to: - What

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> I don't understand what you're referring to: >> - What is the "it" that had to be registered? > That edition of dd-wrt. Oooo! You were running DD-wrt on a pc?? Indeed, OpenWRT also supports running on a PC, but it would never have occurred to me to do that. I'd just use Debian instead:

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 18:10:42 Stefan Monnier wrote: > > He may have changed it, but at the time I first started using it on > > a "pc" it had to be registered before it would access the 2nd port. > > I don't understand what you're referring to: > - What is the "it" that had to be

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>> BTW, depending on what you expect from an "ARM board" and what you >> consider "affordable", you could go for an actual router (many of >> which are based on ARM nowadays). > It has to run Debian or a Debian derivative. I can't see any reason why you couldn't install Debian on a "Brume". The

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > BTW, depending on what you expect from an "ARM board" and what you > consider "affordable", you could go for an actual router (many of > which are based on ARM nowadays). It has to run Debian or a Debian derivative. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> He may have changed it, but at the time I first started using it on > a "pc" it had to be registered before it would access the 2nd port. I don't understand what you're referring to: - What is the "it" that had to be registered? - With whom/what did it have to be registered? - What 2nd port of

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have an Espressobin. It isn't stable due to some sort of power supply > problem (and the available schematics are incorrect). I tried three > different units: it's a design problem. I may go back to messing with > it and try clocking is down, but I don't trust it now. Too bad, because > the

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> I have an Espressobin. It isn't stable due to some sort of power supply > problem (and the available schematics are incorrect). I tried three > different units: it's a design problem. I may go back to messing with > it and try clocking is down, but I don't trust it now. Too bad, because >

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Brian
On Fri 25 Sep 2020 at 17:21:03 +0100, Tixy wrote: > On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 18:07 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > On Vi, 25 sep 20, 10:23:43, Michael Stone wrote: > > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > [...] > > > > such a setup in a router running dd-wrt.

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
Stefan writes: > I assume you mean tho ethernet NICs (many boards have two NICs in the > form of ethernet + wifi). Yes, of course. I don't want WiFi on a router and I want real NICs, not ones faked via USB. > I know of the BPI-R1 and BPI-R2 and the espressobin, but hopefully > there's more. I

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 12:06:07 John Hasler wrote: > I wrote: > > Same here, though I use a pc running Debian as a router. > > Gene writes: > > ...I found I didn't have to register the router... > > Don't know what you mean by that. He may have changed it, but at the time I first started

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2020-09-25 at 18:07 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Vi, 25 sep 20, 10:23:43, Michael Stone wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > > [...] > > > such a setup in a router running dd-wrt. In nearly 2 decades, no one has > > > come into my systems from

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
> Will be replaced as soon as I find an affordable ARM board with > two NICs. Ah, yes, that. I assume you mean tho ethernet NICs (many boards have two NICs in the form of ethernet + wifi). I know of the BPI-R1 and BPI-R2 and the espressobin, but hopefully there's more. FWIW, I use a Banana Pi

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
I wrote: > Same here, though I use a pc running Debian as a router. Gene writes: > ...I found I didn't have to register the router... Don't know what you mean by that. My DSL modem is in bridge mode, of course, and pppoe on the pc just works. The old Dell I use has been running for about ten

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Stefan Monnier
>>I usually give the OP credit for not clicking on the links he runs across >>that aren't on the up and up. I dunno, but the odor about them seems to >>be warning enough for me. > That's simply not true. Compromised web sites are a thing, among > other issues. Yup. The widespread existence of

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 10:56:56AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: I usually give the OP credit for not clicking on the links he runs across that aren't on the up and up. I dunno, but the odor about them seems to be warning enough for me. That's simply not true. Compromised web sites are a thing,

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 sep 20, 10:23:43, Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they are > > all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT > > routable from the internet but are

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 10:23:43 Michael Stone wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they > > are all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT > > routable from the internet

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 sep 20, 13:49:25, Albretch Mueller wrote: > > My thinking may (once again) be a bit unhinged, but I would use, > e.g., crc because it internatlly used by rsync, which I also use in my > code. Just for the archives, rsync is using MD5, and only if you specify the --checksum option.

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 09:01:26AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Your paranoia is excessive. I have 5 machines online ATM, but they are all on a local network in the 1902.168.xx.xx block, which is NOT routable from the internet but are NAT'd to my net address by having such a setup in a router

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 09:25:20 John Hasler wrote: > Gene writes: > > No you are not the only one, but you are a minority that does not > > always want to understand how to use the internet and be safe at the > > same time. It can be done, I'm doing it. And I've been doing it > > since the

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 25, 2020 at 01:49:25PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: I have losts of (not necessarily all) text files (say in the 10 of thousands) in various directories which I need to process in a batch, but before I do that I want to make sure that I get a baseline of the source files. I use:

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread John Hasler
Gene writes: > No you are not the only one, but you are a minority that does not > always want to understand how to use the internet and be safe at the > same time. It can be done, I'm doing it. And I've been doing it > since the later 90's. Same here, though I use a pc running Debian as a

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 25 September 2020 07:54:54 Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/25/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > >> On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Dan Ritter
Albretch Mueller wrote: > On 9/24/20, Sven Hartge wrote: > > > Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to achieve by > > doing this? > > I have losts of (not necessarily all) text files (say in the 10 of > thousands) in various directories which I need to process in a batch, >

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/25/20, Greg Wooledge wrote: > On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: >> On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: >> > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a >> > >> public Windows machine? > >> > Why do you think

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Albretch Mueller
On 9/24/20, Sven Hartge wrote: > Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to achieve by > doing this? I have losts of (not necessarily all) text files (say in the 10 of thousands) in various directories which I need to process in a batch, but before I do that I want to make sure

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: > On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > > >> public Windows machine? > > Why do you think you need to do this? What do you hope to

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-25 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:58:49PM -0500, David Wright wrote: I can't believe the answer is as simple as visiting https://packages.debian.org/index and downloading the packages you want (in binary mode). Plus (possibly several) iterations of downloading the dependencies, and their

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread David Wright
On Thu 24 Sep 2020 at 17:50:16 (+0200), Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > >> public Windows machine? > > > > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the > > previous one. > > How do I get the deb files in order

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Sven Hartge
Albretch Mueller wrote: >>> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a >>> public Windows machine? >> >> I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the >> previous one. > How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg > --install) the

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Reco
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > >> public Windows machine? > > > > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the > > previous one. > > How do I get the deb files in

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Thomas Pircher
Albretch Mueller wrote: > How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg > --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32 and/or CRC64 Hmm, the 'necessary utilities' might be jacksum, if it can calculate the CRCs you are after, and what Debian release you are on. How to get

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 05:50:16PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > >> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a > >> public Windows machine? > > > > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the > > previous one. > > How do I get the deb files in

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
>> How do I get all packages to be locally installed using dpkg from a >> public Windows machine? > > I'm not sure I understand this question or how it relates to the > previous one. How do I get the deb files in order to install locally (via dpkg --install) the necessary utilities to run CRC32

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Thomas Pircher
Albretch Mueller wrote: > rsync uses crc for its data integrity checks. Why is it you can't use > it like any other OS utility? The code for CRC is so small and simple that virtually all applications choose to implement it directly, rather than use a library or an external application for it.

Re: crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Greg Wooledge
On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 03:09:05PM +0200, Albretch Mueller wrote: > rsync uses crc for its data integrity checks. Why is it you can't use > it like any other OS utility? > > $ date; which crc > Thu Sep 24 07:54:55 CEST 2020 > CRC is a family of checksum algorithms. They're generally considered

crc not installed but rsync using it? ...

2020-09-24 Thread Albretch Mueller
rsync uses crc for its data integrity checks. Why is it you can't use it like any other OS utility? $ date; which crc Thu Sep 24 07:54:55 CEST 2020 $ date; which rsync Thu Sep 24 07:54:59 CEST 2020 /usr/bin/rsync $ rsync --version rsync version 3.1.2 protocol version 31 Copyright (C)