Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-18 Thread lee
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:22:08AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > Have you read the excellent aptitude manual (I think its in package > aptitude-doc)? Also, be sure to use the curses interface (rather than > the command-line apt-get replacement). Not yet, but I'll take a look at it, thanks.

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-18 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 07:24:02AM -0600, lee wrote: > On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:39:10PM +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote: > > > > Maybe I even come to like to aptitude if I can figure it out. > > > > > > > If you can't figure it out, that doesn't mean it sucks. > > That you can figure it out doesn't

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-18 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:33:39AM -0600, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:51:30PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > The "expected" workflow in aptitude is that you pick all the changes > > you want to make, then ask aptitude to show you all the changes th

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-18 Thread Bob Cox
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 06:33:39 -0600, lee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:51:30PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > But aptitude does *not* remove software without asking -- it just > > asks in a different place. > > How do you know that? Because he wrote it (aptitu

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-18 Thread lee
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:39:10PM +0200, Aioanei Rares wrote: > > Maybe I even come to like to aptitude if I can figure it out. > > > > If you can't figure it out, that doesn't mean it sucks. That you can figure it out doesn't mean that it doesn't suck. Maybe I did figure it out but found that

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-18 Thread Aioanei Rares
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:33 PM, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:51:30PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > > > The "expected" workflow in aptitude is that you pick all the changes > > you want to make, then ask aptitude to show you all the changes that > > will be made (

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-18 Thread lee
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:51:30PM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > The "expected" workflow in aptitude is that you pick all the changes > you want to make, then ask aptitude to show you all the changes that > will be made (including ones that were required by your past changes). > If you like it,

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
I think I understand. The "expected" workflow in aptitude is that you pick all the changes you want to make, then ask aptitude to show you all the changes that will be made (including ones that were required by your past changes). If you like it, you confirm that it's OK and aptitude applies t

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-17 Thread S.D.Allen
On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 11:09:12 -0600, lee in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:18:43PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > >> Yes, and it is different from dselect's own "cdrom" method. The latter >> will not work with multiple discs, you have to install the dpkg-multicd >> packag

Re: using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-17 Thread Florian Kulzer
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 11:05:48 -0600, lee wrote: [...] > Why shouldn't using dselect be recommended? Let's ask fortune: $ fortune debian -m "Andrew Morton" (/usr/share/games/fortunes/debian) % I was attacked by dselect as a small child and have since avoided debian. -- Andrew

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-17 Thread lee
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 05:18:43PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > Yes, and it is different from dselect's own "cdrom" method. The latter > will not work with multiple discs, you have to install the dpkg-multicd > package for that. Hm, a long time ago I sucessfully used that method to install from

using dselect (was: Re: debian installation help)

2008-11-17 Thread lee
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 07:00:31AM -0800, Daniel Burrows wrote: > On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:28:20AM -0600, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard > to say: > > It was yast on Suse after 6.2 that made me switch to Debian because > > yast kept doing things I didn't want it to do, and it finally managed

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-17 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-11-17 10:28 +0100, lee wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:50:00PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: >> Besides, the only access method in dselect that is known to be >> non-broken is the apt access method. > > Then it should work when he updates /etc/apt/sources.list and reads > the package desc

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-17 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 03:28:20AM -0600, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > It was yast on Suse after 6.2 that made me switch to Debian because > yast kept doing things I didn't want it to do, and it finally managed > to remove qmail which I had spend a lot of work on to install it and >

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-17 Thread lee
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 11:50:00PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > Please, PLEASE don't suggest dselect to new users of Debian. They will > run away in horror and tell everyone how terrible system Debian is. Well, I did run away in horror from aptitude. I tried it, but I wasn't able to figure out h

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-16 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:25:09PM +0530, Srinivasa Ramanujam wrote: > hi, > > the following are the file names which i downloaded from the debian website. > debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-1.iso > debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-2.iso > debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-3.iso > debian-update-4.0r5-amd64-DVD-1.iso Did you read

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-16 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2008-11-16 23:20 +0100, lee wrote: > On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:25:09PM +0530, Srinivasa Ramanujam wrote: > >>i downloaded all four of them and wrote in four different dvd's using >>nero burner. i installed debian using first dvd >>(debian-update-4.0r5-amd64-DVD-1.iso). after instal

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-16 Thread lee
On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 10:25:09PM +0530, Srinivasa Ramanujam wrote: >i downloaded all four of them and wrote in four different dvd's using >nero burner. i installed debian using first dvd >(debian-update-4.0r5-amd64-DVD-1.iso). after installation, i tried to >install packages from

Re: debian installation help

2008-11-16 Thread S.D.Allen
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:25:09 +0530, Srinivasa Ramanujam in gmane.linux.debian.user wrote: > hi, > > the following are the file names which i downloaded from the debian website. > debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-1.iso > debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-2.iso > debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-3.iso > debian-update-4.0r5-amd64-DVD

debian installation help

2008-11-16 Thread Srinivasa Ramanujam
hi, the following are the file names which i downloaded from the debian website. debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-1.iso debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-2.iso debian-40r5-amd64-DVD-3.iso debian-update-4.0r5-amd64-DVD-1.iso i downloaded all four of them and wrote in four different dvd's using nero burner. i installed d