Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-21 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Thu, 16 Oct 2014 08:34:34 -0700 Don Armstrong d...@debian.org napísal: On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Slavko wrote: aptitude search -w 60 -F %c%a %p %v '~i?depends(libsystemd0)' [...] LANG=C dpkg -l libsystemd0 dpkg-query: no packages found matching libsystemd0 [...] aptitude search

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-16 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 22:58:49, The Wanderer wrote: IOW, I think he wasn't talking about systemd per se, but about apparent false-positive results from the aptitude reverse-dependency search. In other posts to this Slavko alluded to recompiling packages to get rid of systemd dependencies. Kind

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-16 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Thu, 16 Oct 2014 12:02:45 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: On Mi, 15 oct 14, 22:58:49, The Wanderer wrote: IOW, I think he wasn't talking about systemd per se, but about apparent false-positive results from the aptitude reverse-dependency search. In

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-16 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 16 Oct 2014, Slavko wrote: aptitude search -w 60 -F %c%a %p %v '~i?depends(libsystemd0)' [...] LANG=C dpkg -l libsystemd0 dpkg-query: no packages found matching libsystemd0 [...] aptitude search -w 60 -F %c%a %p %v 'libsystemd0' [...] Now, please, tell to us, how can any package

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 15:00:22, Andrew McGlashan wrote: At a later date, everything changes ... some things later than other things. I guess that gnome's version for 7.6 is too old to /need/ systemd. As I've already said in another post, Gnome (the Desktop Environment) doesn't need systemd, but

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Thanks to those who've provided scripts and pointers to apt- capabilities. But... both out of curiosity and practicality - to the Debian developers out there - are there any tools on the SCM or build servers that run dependency graphs across the package database? Miles Fidelman Andrew

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Slavko
Ahoj, Dňa Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:31:02 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: Using Debian package dependencies this is expressed as Depends: libpam-systemd by those packages that actually require those interfaces $ aptitude search '?depends(libpam-systemd)' Not always right

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 16/10/2014 3:22 AM, Slavko wrote: But e.g. my dbus package doesn't depends on systemd at all: LANG=en aptitude show dbus | grep Depends -A2 Depends: libaudit1 (= 1:2.2.1), libc6 (= 2.17), libcap-ng0, libdbus-1-3 (= 1.7.6),

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Mi, 15 oct 14, 18:22:28, Slavko wrote: Dňa Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:31:02 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: Using Debian package dependencies this is expressed as Depends: libpam-systemd by those packages that actually require those interfaces $ aptitude search

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:34:05AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Thanks to those who've provided scripts and pointers to apt- capabilities. But... both out of curiosity and practicality - to the Debian developers out there - are there any tools on the SCM or build servers that run dependency

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread Miles Fidelman
Chris Bannister wrote: On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 11:34:05AM -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote: Thanks to those who've provided scripts and pointers to apt- capabilities. But... both out of curiosity and practicality - to the Debian developers out there - are there any tools on the SCM or build servers

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-15 Thread The Wanderer
On 10/15/2014 at 05:29 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 15 oct 14, 18:22:28, Slavko wrote: Dňa Wed, 15 Oct 2014 10:31:02 +0300 Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com napísal: Using Debian package dependencies this is expressed as Depends: libpam-systemd by those packages that actually

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-14 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Lu, 13 oct 14, 19:38:42, Miles Fidelman wrote: Apropos all the discussion on systemd, I'm curious about how to determine all the packages that depend on it. All my systems are running squeeze (call me very conservative when it comes to upgrades - actually, I have one, very stable virtual

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-14 Thread Andrew McGlashan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/10/2014 8:09 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: aptitude search '?depends(^systemd$)' # aptitude search '?depends(^systemd$)' Wednesday 15 October 14:54:30 EST 2014 -- search ?depends(^systemd$) p libpam-systemd - system and service

how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-13 Thread Miles Fidelman
Apropos all the discussion on systemd, I'm curious about how to determine all the packages that depend on it. All my systems are running squeeze (call me very conservative when it comes to upgrades - actually, I have one, very stable virtual machine that still runs lenny)), and apt-rdepends

Re: how to identify reverse dependencies?

2014-10-13 Thread Cindy-Sue Causey
On 10/13/14, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@meetinghouse.net wrote: Apropos all the discussion on systemd, I'm curious about how to determine all the packages that depend on it. All my systems are running squeeze (call me very conservative when it comes to upgrades - actually, I have one, very