On Lu, 28 mai 12, 02:21:39, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
[snip]
Must read: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
(or as package debian-reference)
Kind regards,
Andrei
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On Sunday 27 May 2012 22:21:39 you wrote:
> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Lisi wrote:
> > On Saturday 26 May 2012 12:43:45 you wrote:
> >> > I prefer to use aptitude full-upgrade routinely - but I have the code
> >> > name in my sources.list, not stable or testing. I then change the
> >> > cod
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 7:17 PM, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 26 May 2012 12:43:45 you wrote:
>> > I prefer to use aptitude full-upgrade routinely - but I have the code
>> > name in my sources.list, not stable or testing. I then change the code
>> > name when I want to get the more recent version.
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 26 May 2012 18:04:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>> I seem to remember the Debian Reference has a good guide to pinning and
>> it is up-to-date (thanks to Osamu Aoki).
>
> Given the OP's confusion, and the fact that he states his main aim as no
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:04 PM, Andrei POPESCU
wrote:
> On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:36:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>>>
>>> In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
>>> play with the source list until unless it is
On Sat, 26 May 2012 19:57:19 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Sb, 26 mai 12, 13:39:26, keith wrote:
> >
> > My understanding is ->
> >
> > If you apt-get upgrade, you are updating your system (squeeze)
> >
> > When you use apt-get dist-upgrade you change your system from squeeze to
> > wheezy
FWIW, sometime ago this book was announced here:
http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/
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On Saturday 26 May 2012 18:04:35 Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> I seem to remember the Debian Reference has a good guide to pinning and
> it is up-to-date (thanks to Osamu Aoki).
Given the OP's confusion, and the fact that he states his main aim as not
crashing, would he not do better to stick to pure S
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:36:40, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
> > play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
> > a repo then i must comment it af
On Sb, 26 mai 12, 13:39:26, keith wrote:
>
> My understanding is ->
>
> If you apt-get upgrade, you are updating your system (squeeze)
>
> When you use apt-get dist-upgrade you change your system from squeeze to
> wheezy
No, see 'man apt-get' for the difference between the two.
Kind regards,
On Saturday 26 May 2012 12:43:45 you wrote:
> > I prefer to use aptitude full-upgrade routinely - but I have the code
> > name in my sources.list, not stable or testing. I then change the code
> > name when I want to get the more recent version. So, Squeeze not stable,
> > Muhammad. you could ge
On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:43:45 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>
> if i use Squeeze (the code name) instead stable, sid or anything.
> should i not to worry about system crash? is it what people here mean
> to say (who support code name "squeeze" ) that if i "apt-get
> upgrade/full-upgrade/safe-
On Sat, 26 May 2012 17:06:04 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> i was reading this article and it is very helpful and something new
> that i learned but i am a bit confuse. how come i be safe in this
> technique because what this article is saying means if i wanted to
> install a specific package
On Sat, 26 May 2012 16:43:45 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> if i use Squeeze (the code name) instead stable, sid or anything.
> should i not to worry about system crash? is it what people here mean
> to say (who support code name "squeeze" ) that if i "apt-get
> upgrade/full-upgrade/safe-upg
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
>> play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
>> a repo then i must comment it
On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 1:30 AM, Lisi wrote:
> On Friday 25 May 2012 18:23:37 Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
>>
>> wrote:
>> > On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> >> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> >>> deb http://securi
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 02:17:35PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> "things" for your current install might be /home only. Perhaps xorg.conf
> and some other files, using cp -pr while you're root. But in the future
> completely backup using e.g. tar. Note, if you sync, you anyway might
> lose data, sin
On Friday 25 May 2012 18:23:37 Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
>
> wrote:
> > On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >>> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> >>> deb-src http
On Fri, 25 May 2012 19:38:31 +0100
keith wrote:
> > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> > deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
My apologies, I somehow missed that, as someone else has pointed out. Use
squeeze not stable.
(I know it
On Fri, 25 May 2012 18:28:29 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> ok found a website for which generates source.list
>
> http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Mika Suomalainen
wrote:
> On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>>>
>>> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>>> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>>> deb h
On 2012-05-25 17:53 +0200, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
> Is it safe to use "stable" instead of "squeeze"?
No, this is very much not recommended.
> Are there usually any conflicts or anything what would need
> "full-upgrade" whenever new "stable" is named?
Yes, about every two years when a new major
On 25.05.2012 15:49, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>> deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
>>
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
> deb htt
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 06:42:53AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
> > and I run the command
> > apt-get upgrade.
> > It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded
On Fri, 25 May 2012 15:57:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
> Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
> Linux upgrade.
>
> in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 16:45 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> - one will not be aware of any possibly security related updates
Good point
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On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 02:46:50PM BST, Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf
> > You're issue is related to the sid repository. If you need something
> > from sid, then uncomment it and after that comment it. Don't feel secure
> > using pinning.
> >
> > You can name the repo
Hi,
>> Instead of e.g.
>> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib use
>> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
>>
>> Than you'll get stable, what ever it's named.
>
> ... but it might catch you unprepared if you don't follow release
> announc
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:45:30, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:36 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > > A history provides information this way:
> > >package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
> >
> > do you know any CLI work in same way. i am not using GUI.
>
> A script using apt, ap
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 16:50 +0300, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:16:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >
> > Instead of e.g.
> > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
> > use
> > deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
> >
> > Than you'll
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 15:16:04, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
>
> Instead of e.g.
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main non-free contrib
> use
> deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib
>
> Than you'll get stable, what ever it's named.
... but it might catch you unprepared
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:36 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > A history provides information this way:
> >package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
>
> do you know any CLI work in same way. i am not using GUI.
A script using apt, aptitude or dpkg might be able to generate a history
too. I once
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>>
>> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>> deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-b
On Vi, 25 mai 12, 14:49:26, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> > deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backpor
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 18:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> In conclusion i found out that i should stick to stable and should not
> play with the source list until unless it is necessary. even if i add
> a repo then i must comment it after installing the "whatever package"
Yesno. I'll say y
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> PS:
>
> I like Synaptic, a GUI for the package management. It automatically set
> up an upgrade history. You manually can set up a history when using apt,
> however, Synaptic is very comfortable.
>
> A history provides information this way:
>
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 14:06 +0100, rjc wrote:
> Lenny to squeeze upgrade is somewhat different, you need to have
> entries for both of these releases in you sources.list file(s).
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:58 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> ok ill comment the sid repo. but would you please give
ok found a website for which generates source.list
http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/
deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src ht
On Fri, 25 May 2012 17:37:16 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
[...]
> >
> > [0] It seems like you had several entries in your sources.list file(s)
> > - post the content of your file here.
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/upda
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 01:37:16PM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >> 1. how to upgrade only the security patches?
> >
> > aptitude update && aptitude safe-upgrade [1]
>
> ok it will only update the security patches, no matter if what ever i
> write in source.list?
No, this will upgrade any "u
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 5:49 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
>> deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-back
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:37 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> deb http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports squeeze-backports main
> deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main
On Fri 25 May 2012 at 15:57:28 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> So the question are
>
> 1. how to upgrade only the security patches?
Install stable and stick with it. Do not be tempted to alter sources.list
in /etc/apt/
> 2. if the upgrade patch trigger any critical issue. Like any service
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM, rjc wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:57:28AM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
>> Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
>> Linux upgrade.
>>
>> in a testing en
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 17:19 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> > cd /path/to/debian_stable
> > tar czf backup_name.tar.gz *
>
> will clonezilla live CD work in this case? as i am using it very often
> and a bit useto with it.
AFAIK yes, Clonezilla should be ok.
> now this snapshots point rais
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Kumar Appaiah
wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
>> and I run the command
>> apt-get upgrade.
>> It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:32 PM, Ralf Mardorf
wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 15:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
>> system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.
>
> If your repositories are explicit f
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 06:42 -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> I'd advise you to back up things and do a fresh install of
> squeeze.
"things" for your current install might be /home only. Perhaps xorg.conf
and some other files, using cp -pr while you're root. But in the future
completely backup using e
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 03:57:28PM +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
> and I run the command
> apt-get upgrade.
> It ran fine, but at the end it upgraded my whole OS, first my test
> machine was showing Debian version 6.0.4 no
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:57:28AM BST, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
> Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
> Linux upgrade.
>
> in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patc
On Fri, 2012-05-25 at 15:57 +0500, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> 3. how to revert back to old OS, for example, in my case i upgraded my
> system from 6.0.4 to Wheezy/SID now want to revert things back.
If your repositories are explicit for stable, than there shouldn't
happen an upgrade to testing
PS:
I like Synaptic, a GUI for the package management. It automatically set
up an upgrade history. You manually can set up a history when using apt,
however, Synaptic is very comfortable.
A history provides information this way:
package_name (1.11.4) to 1.12.0
Note, for the "standard rep
well, I have questions about upgrading Linux. since i have been using
Microsoft for years the concept of upgrade I think is different from
Linux upgrade.
in a testing environment I was trying to upgrade the security patches
and I run the command
apt-get upgrade.
It ran fine, but at the end it upgr
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