Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Richard Cobbe
Lo, on Wednesday, June 5, Jeronimo Pellegrini did write: > > > To me, the best solution to this would be to customize the tagline on > > > each outgoing message, so that it would read something like "you are > > > subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED], to remove send a message _from that > > > address_

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 07:38:39AM -0700, Walter Reed wrote: > > I would just like to point out the legal saying that "big cases make bad > > law." We're all irritated by one moron's behavior; that's not necessarily > > an argument for significant technical or policy changes. By all > > indicatio

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:13:37PM -0500, Jamin W. Collins wrote: | On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:51:33 -0500 | "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | | > Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their messages on your end. | > From your POV it's basically the same thing (apart from bandwidth

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Jamin W . Collins
On Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:51:33 -0500 "Derrick 'dman' Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their messages on your end. > From your POV it's basically the same thing (apart from bandwidth > usage). Yes, blackholing the messages is easy. As for bandwidth being t

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 08:34:27AM -0300, Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: | > In any case, idiots who auto-reply to every list mail they receive until | > they get their way are not easily defeated by any technological solution. | | He he... Indeed! Actually, it's really easy to blackhole their mes

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:39:02PM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote: | Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: | | > Blocking his posts to the list while the listmaster tries to help | > him could help -- if the listmaster has the time to do that, of course! | > That would save a lot of bandwidth (the offending post

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Walter Reed
> I would just like to point out the legal saying that "big cases make bad > law." We're all irritated by one moron's behavior; that's not necessarily > an argument for significant technical or policy changes. By all > indications he's gone, and in any case by the end of the day no fewer than > f

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Dragón
Bad idea! There are thousand web mail services out there. And with any normal mail service you can play with headers. Do you really want me to change my email habits? Cheers. --- Tom Allison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Oleg wrote: > > > On Tuesday 04 June 2002 07:37 pm, David W

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Andrew Perrin
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002, Walter Reed wrote: > On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:05:46AM +0200, Joris wrote: > > > On Tuesday 04 June 2002 07:37 pm, David Wright wrote: > > > b) disallow posting from unconfirmed addresses; if [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wasn't subscribed, how could he post? > > I would just lik

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> > To me, the best solution to this would be to customize the tagline on > > each outgoing message, so that it would read something like "you are > > subscribed as [EMAIL PROTECTED], to remove send a message _from that > > address_ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the magic word." That way, the > > clue

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Chris Kenrick
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 10:39:02PM -0700, Brian Dessent wrote: > Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > > > Blocking his posts to the list while the listmaster tries to help > > him could help -- if the listmaster has the time to do that, of course! > > That would save a lot of bandwidth (the offending post

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-05 Thread Brian Dessent
Jeronimo Pellegrini wrote: > Blocking his posts to the list while the listmaster tries to help > him could help -- if the listmaster has the time to do that, of course! > That would save a lot of bandwidth (the offending posts *and* the > discussion about them would at least not last too long), bu

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread grante
>> this would prevent many people who read this list as a newsgroup to >> contribute > > I don't see how...everyone here's got an MTA installed. What's having an MTA have to do with it? I don't subscribe because I find it more convenient to read the list as a newsgroup via muc.lists.debain.user.

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread grante
> b) disallow posting from unconfirmed addresses; if [EMAIL PROTECTED] wasn't > subscribed, how could he post? Hey! What about those of use who read via muc.lists.debian.user? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! .. are the STEWED at

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:05:46AM +0200, Joris wrote: > this would prevent many people who read this list as a newsgroup to > contribute I don't see how...everyone here's got an MTA installed. - -- Baloo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: Gn

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Paul Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0700, ben wrote: > while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if this > statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug in the list > management. something similar happened in debi

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Walter Reed
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:05:46AM +0200, Joris wrote: > > On Tuesday 04 June 2002 07:37 pm, David Wright wrote: > > b) disallow posting from unconfirmed addresses; if [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wasn't subscribed, how could he post? > > this would prevent many people who read this list as a newsgroup t

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Joris
> On Tuesday 04 June 2002 07:37 pm, David Wright wrote: >> 1) Create an account and subscribe it to debian-user. 2) Set it to >> forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Leave >> >> No list managemenent system can protect against this. > > I don't know what the state of the art of list management software

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Tom Allison
Oleg wrote: On Tuesday 04 June 2002 07:37 pm, David Wright wrote: 1) Create an account and subscribe it to debian-user. 2) Set it to forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3) Leave No list managemenent system can protect against this. I don't know what the state of the art of list management softwar

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Jeronimo Pellegrini
> It's not clear what can be done about this at Debian's end other than to > encourage people to post full headers whenever anything goes wrong. Blocking his posts to the list while the listmaster tries to help him could help -- if the listmaster has the time to do that, of course! That would save

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 11:59:21PM +, Pollywog wrote: > I don't know how it happened, but just yesterday I was subscribed to > a mailing list by someone else. I certainly did not subscribe, and > somehow the list managing software for that list received the > subscription confirmation allegedl

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Oleg
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 07:37 pm, David Wright wrote: > 1) Create an account and subscribe it to debian-user. > 2) Set it to forward to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 3) Leave > > No list managemenent system can protect against this. I don't know what the state of the art of list management software is, but

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Pollywog
On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 16:15:27 -0700 "ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if > this statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug > in the list management. something similar happened in debian-kde > just recently. in the inte

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread ben
On Tuesday 04 June 2002 04:25 pm, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0700, ben wrote: > > while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if this > > statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug in the list > > management. something similar happ

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread David Wright
> while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if this > statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug in the list > management. something similar happened in debian-kde just recently. in the > interest of preventing anymore of the same in the future, anybody want

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Chris Kenrick
On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 12:25:14AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0700, ben wrote: > > while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if this > > statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug in the list > > management. something si

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Chris Kenrick
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0700, ben wrote: > > allegedly the last email from ponik the slovakian bofh > > It is my last mail for you. > > Thank everybody for

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 04:15:27PM -0700, ben wrote: > while his response to the situation was obviously ridiculous, if this > statement above is true, it seems that there's some kinda bug in the list > management. something similar happened in debian-kde just recently. in the > interest of prev

Re: in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread Robert Webb
This would be easy to do. If I create an account on my domain and honestly subscribe to the list and then set all the email to that address to be fowarded to a second address everything for any list server would look to be ok. If I were the one that did it in this case I would register the ema

in case you missed this from ponik

2002-06-04 Thread ben
allegedly the last email from ponik the slovakian bofh It is my last mail for you. Thank everybody for help. (Problem was with forwarding every mails from debian-user@