On 20121016_120614, John Hasler wrote:
> I just tried name1.glorb.com. It is distributing correct time and your
> machine is synchronizing properly to it. Your wall clock is broken.
> --
> John Hasler
I've placed an order for a replacement 'atomic' clock. Thanks to everyone
for the interesting
/snip/
If and since when the US take part of this coordination--I don't know.
The US do not like international agreements. Have the US signed the
Human Rights, or the international Woman Rights?
Helmut Wollmersdorfer
The NIST site I mentioned before details the US participation in
Coordi
On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 09:49 +0200, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote:
> cheap ones (20 - 40 EUR/USD)
Radio-controlled table clocks cost less than 9,- EUR some time ago, at a
German discounter.
End of 2009 I bought a power meter for 9.99 EUR from a German
discounter. I've got reasonable doubt that the m
Am 16.10.2012 um 18:54 schrieb Doug:
If you live within the coverage area and
your WWVB clock is unable to synchronize, it usually means a source
of radio interference
is near the receiver. Some common culprits are computer monitors
(some have a
scan rate at or very close to 60 kHz), noisy
Am 16.10.2012 um 15:48 schrieb Paul E Condon:
I think you are mistaken about the sync only once a day. The signals
giving the year month and day are given once a day, but the precise
time-tics are given throughout the day. My clock has an indication
when it is receiving the radio signal which
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 11:49:19AM -0400, Doug wrote:
>
> >>A receiver for WWVB at 60KHz that would decode the signals would be
> >>as accurate as anyone could want. That's the signal that your "atomic"
> >>clock receives, so the clock *should* be accurate. You might only be
> >>able to receive t
To add to my previous post, re WWV: you can still hear the
radio station by telephone. the website I cited before can
be reached, as reported:
To hear these broadcasts, dial (303) 499-7111 for WWV and (808) 335-4363
for WWVH.
You can listen for about two minutes before your call is disconnecte
I just tried name1.glorb.com. It is distributing correct time and your
machine is synchronizing properly to it. Your wall clock is broken.
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It is instructive to look at the NIST website that discusses the time
standards and the broadcasting of the time.
http://tf.nist.gov/general/pdf/1383.pdf
There is a useful chart of available sources of time and the accuracy
available
on page 11, table 1.1.
Problems in reception are discussed,
On 20121016_123854, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> * Helmut Wollmersdorfer [121016 12:12]:
>
> > My experience with radio clocks is that they have cheap electronic
> > components failing to work after some time.
>
> Unless you have more than one "atomic clock" and both agree,
> the first thing to
Darac Marjal wrote at 2012-10-16 04:00 -0500:
> Instead, I would suggest that it is your wall clock that is running
> slow.
Perhaps the second hand moved relative to the shaft at some point.
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A receiver for WWVB at 60KHz that would decode the signals would be
as accurate as anyone could want. That's the signal that your "atomic"
clock receives, so the clock *should* be accurate. You might only be
able to receive the signal in the nighttime hours, like the clock.
Typically, the clock
On Ma, 16 oct 12, 07:48:17, Paul E Condon wrote:
>
> I think you are mistaken about the sync only once a day. The signals
> giving the year month and day are given once a day, but the precise
> time-tics are given throughout the day.
Well, in Europe the signal is indeed sent every second, but th
On 20121016_102703, Helmut Wollmersdorfer wrote:
>
> Am 16.10.2012 um 04:35 schrieb Paul E Condon:
>
> >I've been running Debian for many years. During most of those years I
> >have had a SkyScan(tm) 'Atomic Clock' on the wall near my Debian
> >desktop computer. The physical computer has changed
broadcast
signalling standard that my rather old SkyScan is not handling
properly? Very unlikely, I know. But if I say that the Debian displays
of internet time are actually correct/true/whatever and the SkyScan is
confused, that explains the situation. But is that believable? I don't
think so, at lea
* Helmut Wollmersdorfer [121016 12:12]:
> My experience with radio clocks is that they have cheap electronic
> components failing to work after some time.
Unless you have more than one "atomic clock" and both agree,
the first thing to do is remove the battery from the clock for several
seconds
Paul E Condon writes:
> Now I am running NTP.
Does Ntp agree with your wall clock?
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On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:59:37AM -0400, Doug wrote:
> On 10/16/2012 02:07 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:
> >On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote:
> >>Paul E Condon writes:
> >>>Ideas?
> >>Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources"
> >>commands.
> >>--
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> >I've now
On 10/16/2012 02:07 AM, Paul E Condon wrote:
On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote:
Paul E Condon writes:
Ideas?
Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources"
commands.
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I've now switched to chrony. The offset between 'atomic clock' and
Gnome clock display rema
On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote:
> Paul E Condon writes:
> > Ideas?
>
> Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources"
> commands.
> --
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I've now switched to chrony. The offset between 'atomic clock' and
Gnome clock display remains greater than 15sec. Its hard
> Paul E Condon writes:
> On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote:
> Paul E Condon writes:
>>> Ideas?
>> Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources"
>> commands.
> Now I am running NTP. Is there something I could post from NTP that
> would be useful?
$ ntpq
On 10/15/2012 10:35 PM, Paul E Condon wrote:
I've been running Debian for many years. During most of those years I
have had a SkyScan(tm) 'Atomic Clock' on the wall near my Debian
desktop computer. The physical computer has changed over the years,
but not my using Debian, or my Atomic Clock. Unti
On 20121015_214840, John Hasler wrote:
> Paul E Condon writes:
> > Ideas?
>
> Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources"
> commands.
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Now I am running NTP. Is there something I could post from NTP
that would be useful? The switch will take some time, and I'
Paul E Condon writes:
> Ideas?
Run cronyc and post the results of the "tracking" and "sources"
commands.
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I've been running Debian for many years. During most of those years I
have had a SkyScan(tm) 'Atomic Clock' on the wall near my Debian
desktop computer. The physical computer has changed over the years,
but not my using Debian, or my Atomic Clock. Until a few weeks ago,
they always displayed the sa
why not just use UNIX time?
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On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 01:13:21 -0600, Alex Malinovich
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So, by my count, by the end of this message I have committed 39 acts
> of trademark infringement... :)
...excluding your .signature, quotation and attribution as well a
ond for access. We could really screw them
> > up by running internet time on the basis of the Buddhist/Quantum
> > theory principle of the 'eternal moment'. Regards,
>
> If someone copyrighted the concept of 'time', we would have more things
> to worry about th
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 11:24:10 +0800, "David Palmer."
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If it was commonly adopted, they would then turn round and copywrite
> it, and charge us by the second for access. We could really screw them
> up by running internet time on the basi
On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 20:21, Paul E Condon wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:39:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > What's the point of it?
> >
> > According to http://www.luvit.se/stefanp/lec_35_manual/swatch.html ,
> > "As a re
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 19:21:22 -0700
Paul E Condon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:39:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > What's the point of it?
> >
> > According to http://www.luvit.se/stefanp/lec_35_manual/swatch.
On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 06:39:21PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> What's the point of it?
>
> According to http://www.luvit.se/stefanp/lec_35_manual/swatch.html ,
> "As a result Internet Time is the same all over the world."
>
> Well, gee, since Int
Hi,
What's the point of it?
According to http://www.luvit.se/stefanp/lec_35_manual/swatch.html ,
"As a result Internet Time is the same all over the world."
Well, gee, since Internet Time is equivalent to BMT, what's the
big deal about "same all over the world"
% /usr/sbin/netdate clock.llnl.gov && /sbin/clock -w
clock.llnl.gov was (and probably still is) a NTP stratum 1 server.
I prefer it not for its accuracy, but because this host is always up
and running. Good for scripts.
This is the only server that I know. If someone knows where to get
the
On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Alexander N. Benner wrote:
> Shalom
> I've remeber hearing something like an internettime.
> Is there a tool to setup the kerneltime via the internet?
> I hope I got that right.
>
Just to give you another option. Here is the script that I run:
/usr/sbin/netdate tick.usno.navy
Besides using "xntp", you can simply put an "rdate " command
in the appropriate place. If you use PPP, this would be /etc/ppp/ip-up .
That would set the time whever connecting to the PPP server.
If you have an Ethernet, you can call it from a script in /etc/rc2.d .
Bruce
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On Sun, 1 Dec 1996, Alexander N. Benner wrote:
> Shalom
> I've remeber hearing something like an internettime.
> Is there a tool to setup the kerneltime via the internet?
> I hope I got that right.
Yes, there are "timeservers" on the internet that you can set your clock
to. The package is called
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