Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Mike Miller
> "rick" == Rick Hawkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I'm familiar with Fortran, C, C++, etc., and the coding for > fortran is far more efficient for what i'm doing: it comes > down to applying functions to arrays. I also may have the > world's only project that really c

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
Hi, On Wed, 23 Jul 1997, Dany Dionne wrote: > Your right, f77 is much more performant in intensive numerical > computations than c or c++, at least on SGI (IRIX). For example, on a > Indigo 2, a version of a code in f77 have a peak performance of 270 > MFLOPS. The same code in c/c++ peak at 100

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread M BAILEY
If you can use Pascal the GNU pascal suite is great --Matt On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Rick Hawkins wrote: > > As i prepare to launch back into coding, is anyone familiar with just > how bad the Fortran support is? or is that all a myth? > > I really need as much performance as I can get, and

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
Hi, there > > Sorry, I can't resist ;-) > > Me either. ;-) who can ;) > > fortran (77) is horrible. Well, it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, etc. But > > we > > are in the end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* profs were forcing > > students to use it!) > > > > You will be much better wri

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Dany Dionne
Your right, f77 is much more performant in intensive numerical computations than c or c++, at least on SGI (IRIX). For example, on a Indigo 2, a version of a code in f77 have a peak performance of 270 MFLOPS. The same code in c/c++ peak at 100 MFLOPS. Ok, maybe the c/c++ version could be more optim

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Michael Harnois
On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote: > fortran (77) is horrible. Well, it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, > etc. But we are in the end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* > profs were forcing students to use it!) In the early 80's a local computer rag ran a tongue-in-cheek

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote: > Sorry, I can't resist ;-) Me either. ;-) > fortran (77) is horrible. Well, it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, etc. But we > are in the end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* profs were forcing > students to use it!) > > You will be

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Syrus Nemat-Nasser
On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Alex Romosan wrote: > we are using a combination of f2c and a package called f77reorder > (available from http://www-hermes.desy.de/ww/f77prob.html) to compile > fortran programs initially written on sgi's without problems. you can > get both these packages in debian format by

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-23 Thread Anthony Fok
Sorry, I can't resist either!(BTW, the following are just my personal opinion, and I hope I'm not starting a language war. :) And the following might be off-topic. (sorry!) On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote: > Sorry, I can't resist ;-) > > fortran (77) is horrible.

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Tue, 22 Jul 1997, Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues wrote: > Sorry, I can't resist ;-) > > fortran (77) is horrible. Well, it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, etc. But we > are in the end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* profs were forcing > students to use it!) But it sure beats the Fortran

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-22 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
Rick Hawkins writes: > I don't mean fortran in generall, i mean the available linux versions. >From what I've read so far, Linux fortran tools aren't exactly state of the art (as you know, chances are that gcc is going to optmize your code much better). > I'm familiar with Fortran, C, C++, etc.

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-22 Thread Rick Hawkins
> > fortran (77) is horrible. Well, it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, etc. But we > are in the end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* profs were forcing > students to use it!) > You will be much better writing your code in ANSI C (pointers aren't difficult > once you get to know them). I don'

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-22 Thread Norris Preyer
> "Adriano" == Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Adriano> Sorry, I can't resist ;-) fortran (77) is horrible. Well, Adriano> it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, etc. But we are in the Adriano> end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* profs were Adriano>

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-22 Thread Adriano Nagelschmidt Rodrigues
Sorry, I can't resist ;-) fortran (77) is horrible. Well, it _was_ ok, Backus was a pioneer, etc. But we are in the end of the '90s (and I thought only *my* profs were forcing students to use it!) You will be much better writing your code in ANSI C (pointers aren't difficult once you get to know

Re: just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-22 Thread Alex Romosan
we are using a combination of f2c and a package called f77reorder (available from http://www-hermes.desy.de/ww/f77prob.html) to compile fortran programs initially written on sgi's without problems. you can get both these packages in debian format by anonymous ftp from my computer, caliban.lbl.gov i

just how bad is Fortran?

1997-07-22 Thread Rick Hawkins
As i prepare to launch back into coding, is anyone familiar with just how bad the Fortran support is? or is that all a myth? I really need as much performance as I can get, and the low level stuff in c/c++ is gross overkill for my usage. The low-level stuff built into other languages took about