Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-26 Thread lee
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > lee wrote: >> Andrew McGlashan writes: >>> lee wrote: That you don't want the problem to exist doesn't help. Look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=+635184 and tell me if you know a better solution. >>> 100M logfiles via email

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Mon, 2011-07-25 at 13:45 +0200, lee wrote: > "John A. Sullivan III" writes: > > > If it is of any help, we are just about finished with an enhancement to > > the mailscanner and zendto projects where mailscanner can be optionally > > configured to detect emails larger than a given size, send

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
lee wrote: "John A. Sullivan III" writes: If it is of any help, we are just about finished with an enhancement to the mailscanner and zendto projects where mailscanner can be optionally configured to detect emails larger than a given size, send the attachments to ZendTo (a dropbox like server)

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, lee wrote: Andrew McGlashan writes: lee wrote: That you don't want the problem to exist doesn't help. Look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=+635184 and tell me if you know a better solution. 100M logfiles via email is way too unreasonable. Do you have any arguments

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:44:34 +0200, lee wrote: > >> What do you do on the sending side? Send the parts as attachments as if >> they were complete files rather than parts? > > The sender has to do nothing special, just attach all of the splitted > files and send them as an att

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread lee
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Camaleón wrote: >> That's the only way I can send files (programs, manuals, FAQs...) to >> a chap that lives in Cuba and has only access to his e-mail >> account. No Internet for browsing, no Internet for downloading big >> files from a provided link. No FTP service for

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread lee
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > lee wrote: >> That you don't want the problem to exist doesn't help. Look at >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=+635184 and tell me if >> you know a better solution. > > 100M logfiles via email is way too unreasonable. Do you have any argument

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread lee
Ivan Shmakov writes: > It's not unusual to compress the files before the Base64 > encoding is applied. And indeed, the compression ratio may > vary. And when the files are compressed, they can be smaller than they are uncompressed --- so it's amazing that base64 doesn't involv

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-25 Thread lee
"John A. Sullivan III" writes: > If it is of any help, we are just about finished with an enhancement to > the mailscanner and zendto projects where mailscanner can be optionally > configured to detect emails larger than a given size, send the > attachments to ZendTo (a dropbox like server) and r

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread John A. Sullivan III
On Sun, 2011-07-24 at 15:28 +0200, lee wrote: > Andrew McGlashan writes: > What is more efficient when people have to spend the extra time to > figure out how to up- and download and how to solve security issues > involved with transferring the files via http or ftp? Are you going to > explain

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Erwan David writes: > On 24/07/11 22:23, Ivan Shmakov wrote: […] >> Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? > Add another 3,33% for CRLF each 80 encoded characters (2 caharacters > each 60 bytes) Indeed. -- FSF associate member #7257 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to deb

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Erwan David
On 24/07/11 22:23, Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> Andrew McGlashan writes: >> Ivan Shmakov wrote: > > >> Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? Add another 3,33% for CRLF each 80 encoded characters (2 caharacters each 60 bytes) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Andrew McGlashan writes: > Ivan Shmakov wrote: >> Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? > Won't that vary by file? I guess it won't. Base64 sends each 6-bit of data as an ASCII character, which is (usually) represented by an octet. This gives exactly 4

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Ivan Shmakov wrote: Huh? Base64 has overhead of only 33.(3)%? Won't that vary by file? It's never going to be the same for every file. It's still alot of extra overhead, not just the extra data. -- Kind Regards AndrewM Andrew McGlashan Broadband Solutions now including VoIP -- To

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Camaleón wrote: That's the only way I can send files (programs, manuals, FAQs...) to a chap that lives in Cuba and has only access to his e-mail account. No Internet for browsing, no Internet for downloading big files from a provided link. No FTP service for upload or download nothing. They're

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, lee wrote: That you don't want the problem to exist doesn't help. Look at http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=+635184 and tell me if you know a better solution. 100M logfiles via email is way too unreasonable. Good luck to you, hope you get videos of hundreds of MB and you h

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 24 Jul 2011 15:23:51 +1000, Andrew McGlashan wrote: > lee wrote: >> what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to >> a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- >> metamail doesn't seem to exist anymore. > > This problem _should_ _not_ exist.

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:44:34 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:18:35 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> Camaleón writes: >>> >>> Yeah, that's what I thought of doing if there isn't a better option. >>> How do you handle the mime stuff in your script so that the recipient >

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread lee
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > lee wrote: >> Andrew McGlashan writes: >> What's the point of having good internet connections when you can't use >> them? Making your files publicly available by uploading them somewhere >> or by setting up your own web server may not be what you want. > > Wh

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread lee
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > lee wrote: >> what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to >> a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail >> doesn't seem to exist anymore. > > This problem _should_ _not_ exist. How horrible to need to pi

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-24 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Andrew McGlashan writes: […] > The other thing that many people don't seem to understand, is that > sending a large binary file as an attachment requires the attachment > to be encoded back to printable characters -- this can increase the > payload of an email by 50%. Huh? Ba

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, lee wrote: what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail doesn't seem to exist anymore. This problem _should_ _not_ exist. How horrible to need to piece together parts again later. Think a

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, lee wrote: Andrew McGlashan writes: What's the point of having good internet connections when you can't use them? Making your files publicly available by uploading them somewhere or by setting up your own web server may not be what you want. What, so you can abuse it? And all the server

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Andrew McGlashan writes: > Hi, > > lee wrote: >> what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to >> a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail >> doesn't seem to exist anymore. > > It would be far better to host files somewhere and send a link

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:18:35 +0200, lee wrote: > >> Camaleón writes: >> >> Yeah, that's what I thought of doing if there isn't a better option. How >> do you handle the mime stuff in your script so that the recipient can >> extract the file from the many messages easily? > >

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan
Hi, lee wrote: what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail doesn't seem to exist anymore. It would be far better to host files somewhere and send a link or links to the hosted files. Today w

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:18:35 +0200, lee wrote: > Camaleón writes: > >> On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:09:20 +0200, lee wrote: >> >>> what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited >>> to a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- >>> metamail doesn't seem to ex

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Camaleón writes: > On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:09:20 +0200, lee wrote: > >> what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to >> a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail >> doesn't seem to exist anymore. > > I use a custom script for that task that

Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:09:20 +0200, lee wrote: > what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to > a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail > doesn't seem to exist anymore. I use a custom script for that task that basically uses "split" (to

limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Hi, what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to a given maximum size? I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail doesn't seem to exist anymore. -- http://www.asciiribbon.org/ http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1855 http://www.caliburn.nl/topposting.html -- To U