On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 15:35 -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In <1303435546.3090.3.ca...@zircon.lan.walnut.gen.nz>, Richard Hector
> wrote:
> >On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 12:04 +0200, Axel Freyn wrote:
> >> But the principal problem is: each of those limits/protections
> reduces
> >> the usability
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote at 2011-04-22 15:35 -0500:
> I turn off over-commit on all of my systems. I'd rather have malloc fail and
> let the userland handle things (possibly by crashing!) than have the semi-
> predictable OOM killer set loose.
Yes, I turn off overcommit as well. Before I st
In <1303435546.3090.3.ca...@zircon.lan.walnut.gen.nz>, Richard Hector wrote:
>On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 12:04 +0200, Axel Freyn wrote:
>> But the principal problem is: each of those limits/protections reduces
>> the usability (e.g. if you have 2GB Ram, and you limit eclipse to 2GB,
>> it will be killed
Thank you, Boyd, that was just the sort of answer I was looking for. I tried
using Ctrl+Alt+F1 to drop into a terminal but, again, it wasn't responsive.
I'll commit your suggestions to memory for the next time the system locks up.
You touched on the crux of my complaint: sure, I expect the odd
On Wed, 2011-04-20 at 12:04 +0200, Axel Freyn wrote:
> But the principal problem is: each of those limits/protections reduces
> the usability (e.g. if you have 2GB Ram, and you limit eclipse to 2GB,
> it will be killed by the Kernel as soon as it tries to use 2GB and 1
> byte from the SWAP
Really
In <4dae819c.8020...@biotec.tu-dresden.de>, Alex Mestiashvili wrote:
>just a simple forkbomb will make your OS unusable ...
It shouldn't. When I first got my current hardware up and running, I fork
bombed myself and then recovered just to prove the OS and hardware could
handle it. I was able t
On 04/19/2011 09:57 PM, Borden Rhodes wrote:
Good evening,
I do mean this earnestly and, despite my frustration, I am not trying
to flame the good people of Debian, GNU or Linux. Nevertheless, I
have to ask: why is it that in 2011, the world's greatest operating
system lets Eclipse seize contro
Thank you for your reply, Axel; perfect answer. Now that I know that
these features of Linux exist I can go hunt them down and figure out
how to use them and stop this from happening again (like it did after
I sent my original e-mail).
With thanks again,
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Apropos this discussion:
The original poster does have a point: resource allocation and process
isolation are core o/s functions.
I've never really given a lot of thought to the details - for most of
the servers I've set up over the years, everything has pretty much just
worked (under Solar
on 01:38 Wed 20 Apr, Borden Rhodes (j...@bordenrhodes.com) wrote:
> Thank you for your reply and your consolation that other people are
> equally miffed with Eclipse. My question, though, is about Linux
> control systems. Is one of the kernel's design goals to manage system
> resources to preven
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:57:19PM -0400, Borden Rhodes wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> I do mean this earnestly and, despite my frustration, I am not trying
> to flame the good people of Debian, GNU or Linux. Nevertheless, I
> have to ask: why is it that in 2011, the world's greatest operating
>
On 04/20/2011 07:38 AM, Borden Rhodes wrote:
Thank you for your reply and your consolation that other people are
equally miffed with Eclipse. My question, though, is about Linux
control systems. Is one of the kernel's design goals to manage system
resources to prevent a buggy program from cripp
On 20 April 2011 14:16, Paul E Condon wrote:
Enormous Probably the second largest one I've done since I've been
> back!
>
> But given your experience with Eclipse, I hope you are developing a healthy
> scepticism about proposals to have elections voted and votes counted on the
> Internet. Imag
Thank you for your reply and your consolation that other people are
equally miffed with Eclipse. My question, though, is about Linux
control systems. Is one of the kernel's design goals to manage system
resources to prevent a buggy program from crippling the system and
forcing a hard restart? If
On 20110419_225719, Borden Rhodes wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> I do mean this earnestly and, despite my frustration, I am not trying
> to flame the good people of Debian, GNU or Linux. Nevertheless, I
> have to ask: why is it that in 2011, the world's greatest operating
> system lets Eclipse seize
Good evening,
I do mean this earnestly and, despite my frustration, I am not trying
to flame the good people of Debian, GNU or Linux. Nevertheless, I
have to ask: why is it that in 2011, the world's greatest operating
system lets Eclipse seize control of my computer, eat up 2 GB of RAM,
monopolis
On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:24:59AM +0800, H.H. Ding wrote:
> I have never find any log for why the linux crash. Is it reasonable?
> or should I tun on some options in some config file?
It depends on what caused the crash. Sometimes a message will be sent
by syslog to /var/log/syslog. Som
On Thu, Nov 15, 2007 at 11:43:06PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 16, 2007 at 10:24:59AM +0800, H.H. Ding wrote:
> > I have never find any log for why the linux crash. Is it reasonable?
> > or should I tun on some options in some config file?
>
> It depends on
On Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:24:59 +0800, H.H. Ding wrote:
>
> I have never find any log for why the linux crash. Is it reasonable? or
> should I tun on some options in some config file? -BEGIN PGP
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"Andrew" == Andrew Perrin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Andrew> FWIW, I'm skeptical of Nate's claim that excessive I/O
Andrew> errors must bring down the system. I'm certainly not a
Andrew> kernel hacker, but I see no reason why the kernel couldn't
Andrew> do what it does in othe
On Monday 04 November 2002 09:59 am, Rob Weir wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 08:58:07AM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> > On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
> > > I was surprised that this issue took down the system on Linux.
> > > I understand, as nate explained, that hardware errors will
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 08:58:07AM -0500, Andrew Perrin wrote:
> On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
>
> > I was surprised that this issue took down the system on Linux.
> > I understand, as nate explained, that hardware errors will always
> > result in trouble but I expected the kernel to
At 14:50 Uhr +0100 04.11.2002, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
I was surprised that this issue took down the system on Linux.
I understand, as nate explained, that hardware errors will always
result in trouble but I expected the kernel to react differently.
(Or is this a limitation of x86 or the issue you
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
> I was surprised that this issue took down the system on Linux.
> I understand, as nate explained, that hardware errors will always
> result in trouble but I expected the kernel to react differently.
> (Or is this a limitation of x86 or the issue you men
* Ron Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [04-11-2002 13:28]:
> > I was able to mount the cdrom and use tab-completion to get to the
> > directory on the cdrom using cp. However after entering, the system
> > crashed (leds on keyboard flashing, hard boot required).
> What kind of mobo & chipset do you hav
On Sun, 2002-11-03 at 21:09, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
> Tonight I tried to copy the contents of a cdrom to a local
> filesytem as root.
>
> I was able to mount the cdrom and use tab-completion to get to the
> directory on the cdrom using cp. However after entering, the system
> crashed (leds on keyb
Michael P. Soulier said:
>Would not desirable behaviour be to log as many errors as possible,
>but
> recover from the hardware problem? I see no reason why any software, user
> space or kernel space, should crash due to errors in a peripheral. Bad
> RAM is one thing, but errors on a CD? I
On 03/11/02 nate did speaketh:
> it is not unusual, I have seen this happen on many operaitng systems
> especially with CD-R media. the result would of been the same if
> you were not root. Probably the system filled with I/O errors and
> couldn't continue. The software has only limited resources
Robert Ian Smit said:
> It's not really a very big issue, but I was amazed to see this
> happen?
it is not unusual, I have seen this happen on many operaitng systems
especially with CD-R media. the result would of been the same if
you were not root. Probably the system filled with I/O errors and
Tonight I tried to copy the contents of a cdrom to a local
filesytem as root.
I was able to mount the cdrom and use tab-completion to get to the
directory on the cdrom using cp. However after entering, the system
crashed (leds on keyboard flashing, hard boot required).
After booting I took out th
John R Lenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:52:07PM -0500, Bradley James Reid wrote:
> > i've got a problem at boot.
> > my debian system crashes. it's using kernel 2.0.36.
> > the error follows the check of the hardware.
> > and the error is:
> > unable to open initi
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 12:52:07PM -0500, Bradley James Reid wrote:
> i've got a problem at boot.
> my debian system crashes. it's using kernel 2.0.36.
> the error follows the check of the hardware.
> and the error is:
> unable to open initial console
You compiled your own kernel? you've probab
Bradley James Reid wrote:
>
> i've got a problem at boot.
> my debian system crashes. it's using kernel 2.0.36.
> the error follows the check of the hardware.
> and the error is:
> unable to open initial console
>
> any help would be great.
Could you state, what you've changed before that err
i've got a problem at boot.
my debian system crashes. it's using kernel 2.0.36.
the error follows the check of the hardware.
and the error is:
unable to open initial console
any help would be great.
i've never had to deal with this so all information regarding booting from
disk and any boot opt
On 2 Nov 98 07:06:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Oz Dror) wrote:
>Hi
>I have hust installed debian 2.0 on new P-II machine.
>MB ASUS P2B-S (with aic7890)
>I have 2 SDRAMS 128MB each.
>
>When I try to boot linux with more then 128M linux crashes.
>
>Is this a hardware or software problem.
Try running
On 1 Nov, Oz Dror wrote:
> Hi
> I have hust installed debian 2.0 on new P-II machine.
> MB ASUS P2B-S (with aic7890)
> I have 2 SDRAMS 128MB each.
>
> When I try to boot linux with more then 128M linux crashes.
>
> Is this a hardware or software problem.
>
> -Oz
My guess is hardware. I have 2
Hi
I have hust installed debian 2.0 on new P-II machine.
MB ASUS P2B-S (with aic7890)
I have 2 SDRAMS 128MB each.
When I try to boot linux with more then 128M linux crashes.
Is this a hardware or software problem.
-Oz
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