Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I don't know where to begin. I know that I can access linux.debian.*

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 23:16:33 +0300 softwatt softw...@gmx.com wrote: I have been contemplating the merits of mailing lists and comparing them with those of forums, [snip] If you're really impatient and prefer examples, head to the usage example at the bottom of the mail and skip the rest

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 05:41 PM, Steve Litt wrote: You missed the biggest 2 advantages of mailing lists: You missed my point entirely. Those two advantages are reserved in my proposal. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread John Hasler
Steve Litt writes: I'm on several forums. But invariably, as time goes on, I forget their existence. The day's just too busy to walk around the web visiting groups. And every forum has a different UI with an extremely primitive editor. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA --

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 05:58 PM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 05:41 PM, Steve Litt wrote: You missed the biggest 2 advantages of mailing lists: You missed my point entirely. Those two advantages are reserved in my proposal. I apologize. You only added some advantages to mailing lists. For some

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 17:58:04 +0300 softwatt softw...@gmx.com wrote: On 10/10/2014 05:41 PM, Steve Litt wrote: You missed the biggest 2 advantages of mailing lists: You missed my point entirely. Those two advantages are reserved in my proposal. OK then... As long as it continues acting

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 10 Oct 2014 18:01:15 +0300 softwatt softw...@gmx.com wrote: On 10/10/2014 05:58 PM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 05:41 PM, Steve Litt wrote: You missed the biggest 2 advantages of mailing lists: You missed my point entirely. Those two advantages are reserved in my proposal

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
There's a sub-question here: How does this proposal compare to Usenet? However, both Usenet and this proposal are superior to mailing lists in all aspects. Feel free to correct me here. Do mailing lists have any advantages in comparison to Usenet/this proposal? signature.asc Description

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 06:24 AM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Gatewaying debian-user to an nntp newsgroup hosted at debian.org might be a nice-to-have. Mozilla does this with their mailing lists. They have a readonly, lonely Usenet server at news.mozilla.org. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 05:39 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: You don't need to use a paid server. There are plenty of free ones available. Personally, I use eternal-september.com. It's been pretty solid for me and contains all of the newsgroups I want. No binary newsgroups, but I can life with that.

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Steve Litt
nothing for weeks at a time. However, both Usenet and this proposal are superior to mailing lists in all aspects. Feel free to correct me here. Do mailing lists have any advantages in comparison to Usenet/this proposal? I'll simply reply about mailing lists vs Usenet, without regard to your

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
a lot of forums have nothing for weeks at a time. However, both Usenet and this proposal are superior to mailing lists in all aspects. Feel free to correct me here. Do mailing lists have any advantages in comparison to Usenet/this proposal? I'll simply reply about mailing lists vs Usenet, without

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 06:59 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: I'm on at least 25 mailing lists. If I had to go out to 25 different places to get my information, I'd never get anything done. With mailing lists, posts come to me: I don't need to go searching hither and yon for them. Why are you guys treating

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Francesco Ariis
On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 06:11:16PM +0300, softwatt wrote: Do mailing lists have any advantages in comparison to Usenet/this proposal? I never managed one, but maybe mailing lists are easier to set up and easier to maintain/moderate. We should listen to what listmasters have to say in this regard

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 06:59 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: I'm on at least 25 mailing lists. If I had to go out to 25 different places to get my information, I'd never get anything done. With mailing lists, posts come to me: I don't need to go searching hither and yon for them. Why are you

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Francesco Ariis wrote: On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 06:11:16PM +0300, softwatt wrote: Do mailing lists have any advantages in comparison to Usenet/this proposal? I never managed one, but maybe mailing lists are easier to set up and easier to maintain/moderate. We should listen to what listmasters

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 08:04 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: - as noted - stuff comes to you That's true in Usenet as well. The remaining points are valid for Usenet. Note however that none of them are valid for my proposal. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 11:30 AM, Jonathan Dowland wrote: Personally, I think the 'stack exchange' model is the best one out there at the moment. I have two problems with that model. - I don't like reward systems, I prefer minimalistic discussion platforms without the fancy stuff - Threaded

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I don't know where to begin. I know that I can

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I don't know where to

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum (attn. Jerry)

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the net is scarce and I

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum (attn. Jerry)

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me. But information on the

debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Miles Fidelman
Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to keep track of threads) This is perfect for me.

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 10:10 PM, Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Miles Fidelman wrote: Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:01 AM, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 02:27 PM, Jerry Stuckle wrote: I also read this mail list via NNTP (easier to

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
My thanks was not threaded correctly. Sorry. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: My thanks was not threaded correctly. Sorry. It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds.

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread softwatt
On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: My thanks was not threaded correctly. Sorry. It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the list archive. Might be an issue with your MUA. Mutt seems smarter than the norm. It

Re: debian-user via USENET [was: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum]

2014-10-10 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2014 10 Oct 14:56 -0500, softwatt wrote: On 10/10/2014 10:26 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2014 10 Oct 14:19 -0500, softwatt wrote: My thanks was not threaded correctly. Sorry. It was threaded correctly by Mutt for me. Check the threading in the list archive. Might be an issue

Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread softwatt
I have been contemplating the merits of mailing lists and comparing them with those of forums, thinking about whether there exists an alternative which provides the advantages of both. And then I came out with something new which does exactly that. Before I continue, allow me to quickly

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread Nate Bargmann
Didn't you just describe Usenet? :-/ - Nate -- The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true. Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread Joe
On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:40:04 -0500 Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: Didn't you just describe Usenet? I was thinking that. I suppose there are people who don't know about Usenet. There certainly aren't many ISPs who throw in Usenet nowadays... -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/9/2014 5:52 PM, Joe wrote: On Thu, 9 Oct 2014 15:40:04 -0500 Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: Didn't you just describe Usenet? I was thinking that. I suppose there are people who don't know about Usenet. There certainly aren't many ISPs who throw in Usenet nowadays... As well

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread John Hasler
Jerry Stuckle writes: As well as free Usenet servers. Anybody can run a Usenet server. -- John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com Elmwood, WI USA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/9/2014 7:16 PM, John Hasler wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: As well as free Usenet servers. Anybody can run a Usenet server. But if you set up your own usenet server, you won't have access to any of the newsgroups on usenet. Which will leave you very, very lonely. Jerry -- To

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread John Hasler
Jerry Stuckle writes: But if you set up your own usenet server, you won't have access to any of the newsgroups on usenet. Unless you arrange one or more feeds. That's how it works. It's a peer to peer system. I run my own Leafnode server for my wife and I. I currently purchase a feed from

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread Jerry Stuckle
On 10/9/2014 10:48 PM, John Hasler wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: But if you set up your own usenet server, you won't have access to any of the newsgroups on usenet. Unless you arrange one or more feeds. That's how it works. It's a peer to peer system. I run my own Leafnode server for my

Re: Proposal: An alternative to mailing lists which isn't a forum

2014-10-09 Thread Miles Fidelman
Jerry Stuckle wrote: On 10/9/2014 10:48 PM, John Hasler wrote: Jerry Stuckle writes: But if you set up your own usenet server, you won't have access to any of the newsgroups on usenet. Unless you arrange one or more feeds. That's how it works. It's a peer to peer system. I run my own

Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Vi, 25 apr 14, 13:22:03, The Wanderer wrote: This is obviously a bug somewhere (albeit probably not a severe one in practice), but I'm not even sure what package the bug would be in. Any hints, or ideas what might be going on here? I suggest you post this to

Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread Carlo
I would tell you a my tip: - if you want go from stable to testing/unstable before you must change your channel in repository's file located in /etc/apt/sources.list. - after this edit, these are the right sequence of command by terminal: # apt-get update # apt-get upgrade # apt-get install apt

Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Sat, Apr 26, 2014 at 03:29:49PM +0200, Carlo wrote: I would tell you a my tip: - if you want go from stable to testing/unstable before you must change your channel in repository's file located in /etc/apt/sources.list. - after this edit, these are the right sequence of command by

Re: dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-26 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 04/26/2014 06:00 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 25 apr 14, 13:22:03, The Wanderer wrote: This is obviously a bug somewhere (albeit probably not a severe one in practice), but I'm not even sure what package the bug would be in. Any

dist-upgrade installs new package, lists it as autoremove candidate

2014-04-25 Thread The Wanderer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 I'm presently seeing a rather odd behavior, in two parts. My system currently has no installed packages which are considered candidates for autoremoval: root@apologia:/home/wanderer# apt-get autoremove Reading package lists... Done

Mise en commentaire des textes insérés ds les message auquel je réponds sur les mailing-lists

2013-09-12 Thread Dorian
Bonjour, Je souhaite connaître un logiciel (associé à m...@yahoo.fr aussi si possible) qui permet de répondre au mailing list en y insérant automatiquement ces échappements aux textes auquel je réponds. A bientôt   Dorian  De : Klaus Becker colon...@free.fr

Re: Mise en commentaire des textes insérés ds les message auquel je réponds sur les mailing-lists

2013-09-12 Thread Dorian Carpentier de Changy
Ne pas tenir compte. Ceci est un essai. L'indentation s'effectue en natif sur thunderbird. Le 12/09/2013 17:20, Christophe a écrit : Bonjour, Le 12/09/2013 17:15, Dorian a écrit : Ici j'édite du texte en passant à la ligne J'irai creuser cela. sinon il existe un plugin qui fait la même

Re: Mise en commentaire des textes insérés ds les message auquel je réponds sur les mailing-lists

2013-09-12 Thread Dorian
insérés ds les message auquel je réponds sur les mailing-lists Bonjour, Le 12 septembre 2013 13:44, Dorian dechangydor...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Je souhaite connaître un logiciel (associé à m...@yahoo.fr aussi si possible) qui permet de répondre au mailing list en y insérant automatiquement

Re: Mise en commentaire des textes insérés ds les message auquel je réponds sur les mailing-lists

2013-09-12 Thread Christophe
Bonjour, Le 12/09/2013 17:15, Dorian a écrit : J'irai creuser cela. sinon il existe un plugin qui fait la même chose pour thunderbird? Ca le fait en natif, sans besoin de plugin, non ? (Ou alors j'ai pas compris ta question). Ou sinon, ca s'appelle Coller comme une citation. @+ Christophe.

Re: Encouraging packaging questions on local debian-devel-* lists?

2013-08-08 Thread Paul Gevers
,portuguese,spanish}@ as possible lists where it's OK to ask questions about Debian packaging. I personally would not mind if the debian-user-dutch would be added as well. There is not so much traffic in the Dutch world that would warrant a separate list. Please CC me on reply if you drop

Re: Denigrating messages on Debian lists [Re: [ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: Re: Mail client, threads, etc...]]

2012-11-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
denigrate members of the Debian community aren't acceptable on Debian lists. If you have to ask yourself whether something is denigrating others, it probably is. Please refrain from doing so in the future, or listmast...@debian.org may take action to curtail your posting ability to Debian lists

Re: Denigrating messages on Debian lists [Re: [ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: Re: Mail client, threads, etc...]]

2012-11-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
. I hope this isn't too sexist. Sending messages which denigrate members of the Debian community aren't acceptable on Debian lists. If you have to ask yourself whether something is denigrating others, it probably is. Please refrain from doing so in the future, or listmast

Re: Denigrating messages on Debian lists [Re: [ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net: Re: Mail client, threads, etc...]]

2012-11-21 Thread François TOURDE
this isn't too sexist. Sending messages which denigrate members of the Debian community aren't acceptable on Debian lists. I'm so sorry denigrating computers on my initial sentence, I apologize. If I look at the two sentences, Ralf's one is equipollent to mine, so I consider it harmful

Re: Reading/posting to Debian mailing lists (was: Re: Fwd: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft)

2012-06-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 15:33 +, Camaleón wrote: On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:26:17 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: For some reasons i am not able to get debian members response in my mailbox to my query posted on mailing list. (...) [snip] For the rest of the article I share most of your

Reading/posting to Debian mailing lists (was: Re: Fwd: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft)

2012-06-22 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:26:17 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: For some reasons i am not able to get debian members response in my mailbox to my query posted on mailing list. (...) Most of the Debian mailing lists are open, meaning there's no need for users who want to post to be subscribed

Re: Where have the mailing lists gone?

2012-05-04 Thread Jon Dowland
Feedback on Debian websites should be directed to debian-...@lists.debian.org (or by filing bugs against a suitable pseudo package: a list of all pseudo is at http://www.debian.org/Bugs/pseudo-packages) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: Where have the mailing lists gone?

2012-05-04 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 03 May 2012 21:50:43 +, Dirk wrote: some marketing-asshole has gone bananas on your websites again... probably thinking a high page count makes users happier... http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ No Index with mailing lists but a desert of text that NOBODY will read. You'd

Where have the mailing lists gone?

2012-05-03 Thread Dirk
Hello, some marketing-asshole has gone bananas on your websites again... probably thinking a high page count makes users happier... http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ No Index with mailing lists but a desert of text that NOBODY will read. The first link on that page is called mailing lists

Re: Where have the mailing lists gone?

2012-05-03 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 04/05/12 07:50, Dirk wrote: Hello, snipped pottymouth rant http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ No Index with mailing lists but a desert of text that NOBODY will read. tl;dr often translates to 2dumb, 2lazy. Especially in this case where the answer is in the first sentence. snipped

MINImalistic MAiling LISTs manager in Debian squeeze

2012-04-11 Thread Svyatoslav Lempert
Hello, http://packages.debian.org/lenny/minimalist Why this package is not included into Debian 6.0 main repo? -- Svyatoslav -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive:

Re: MINImalistic MAiling LISTs manager in Debian squeeze

2012-04-11 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 12 Apr 2012 01:59:04 +0900, Svyatoslav Lempert wrote: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/minimalist Why this package is not included into Debian 6.0 main repo? Reasons should be enumerated in the link at the right (Developer Information (PTS)):

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-11 Thread BasaBuru
On Viernes, 10 de febrero de 2012 21:48:57 Camaleón escribió: Que algo se reporte como un bug y que sea un bug son cosas distintas Repito es un política de debian. Espero haber aclarado tus dudas. un saludo BasaBuru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-11 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:41:11 +0100, BasaBuru escribió: On Viernes, 10 de febrero de 2012 21:48:57 Camaleón escribió: Que algo se reporte como un bug y que sea un bug son cosas distintas ¿? Repito es un política de debian. ¿? Espero haber aclarado tus dudas. Yo no tengo dudas sobre

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-11 Thread Carlos Zuniga
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:41:11 +0100, BasaBuru escribió: On Viernes, 10 de febrero de 2012 21:48:57 Camaleón escribió: Que algo se reporte como un bug y que sea un bug son cosas distintas ¿? Repito es un política de debian.

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-11 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 11 Feb 2012 09:44:37 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió: On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:41:11 +0100, BasaBuru escribió: On Viernes, 10 de febrero de 2012 21:48:57 Camaleón escribió: Que algo se reporte como un bug y que sea un

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-10 Thread BasaBuru
On Viernes, 10 de febrero de 2012 14:23:28 Fabián Bonetti escribió: Si miran el archivo de hilos http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/ se ven todos los mails En comparación con otras listas esta es la única que muestra los mails. Esto es debido a que todas las listas de debian son

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-10 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:23:28 -0300, Fabián Bonetti escribió: Hola, amigos me pasa que hace muy poco comencé en esta lista. Y al ver los hilos, noto que los mail quedan desprotegidos a script buscadores de mails. (...) Se podrá hacer algo? hablar con el admin y solicitar una corrección?

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-10 Thread BasaBuru
On Viernes, 10 de febrero de 2012 19:27:11 Camaleón escribió: Aupa fabian: No le hagas mucho caso a camaleon tiene poco conocimiento de la historia de debian. Este es un principio de libertad de debian, lo ha sido así los ultimos 18 años. Y va a seguir las listas abiertas y libres Un saludo

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-10 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:16:53 +0100, BasaBuru escribió: On Viernes, 10 de febrero de 2012 19:27:11 Camaleón escribió: Aupa fabian: No le hagas mucho caso a camaleon tiene poco conocimiento de la historia de debian. (Ay señor llévame ya, llévame ya...) A ver niño, no sé qué conocimiento

Re: [OT] Spam en Debian Mailing Lists

2012-02-10 Thread José Maldonado
El día 10 de febrero de 2012 08:53, Fabián Bonetti mama21mama2...@yahoo.com.ar escribió: Hola, amigos me pasa que hace muy poco comencé en esta lista. Y al ver los hilos, noto que los mail quedan desprotegidos a script buscadores de mails. Eso lo note cuando me registre, y pensé que era

Re: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages

2011-12-11 Thread Geert Stappers
: header Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_lenny_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. Can't call method policy on an undefined value at /usr/bin/apt-show-versions line 56. run-parts: /etc

Re: [ ERR] Reading package lists - E: Encountered a section with no Package: header

2011-12-03 Thread Pete
I have a similar error, though mine is from lenny. I've done as suggested by Marlon: # find /var/lib/apt/lists/ -type f \( ! -iname lock \) -exec rm -f {} \; .. and put the following in sources.list: deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian lenny main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org

Re: [ ERR] Reading package lists - E: Encountered a section with no Package: header

2011-12-01 Thread Marlon Nunes
login as root and try: find /var/lib/apt/lists/ -type f \( ! -iname lock \) -exec rm -f {} \; after that edit your sources.list and put: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http

[ ERR] Reading package lists - E: Encountered a section with no Package: header

2011-11-30 Thread Nuno Magalhães
Hi, I've been having these errors: [ ERR] Reading package lists E: Encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/lists/mirrors.nfsi.pt_debian_dists_squeeze_main_binary-amd64_Packages E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. E

Re: gnome-shell en testing (Sorry mixing lists)

2011-11-10 Thread Javier Barroso
Sorry I mixed debian-user-spanish with debian-user :( 2011/11/10 Javier Barroso javibarr...@gmail.com: Añado a la lista .. 2011/11/10 Jose Diaz jant...@gmail.com: Saludos, muy buenas noches Referente al hilo, sobre Unity y Gnome3 veo que al abrir una ventana ej: /home/miusuario y moverme a

incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Richard
Hi, I was having a problem with the listed url for the United Kingdom ftp debian site. kept giving errors. The correct country designator in the url for the UK is uk not gb. ie. ftp.uk.debian.org NOT ftp.gb.debian.org That needs to be fixed before the next release. -- Best wishes / 73 Richard

Re: incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:15:22AM +0100, Richard wrote: Hi, I was having a problem with the listed url for the United Kingdom ftp debian site. kept giving errors. The correct country designator in the url for the UK is uk not gb. ie. ftp.uk.debian.org NOT ftp.gb.debian.org Where is this?

Re: incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:15:22 +0100, Richard wrote: I was having a problem with the listed url for the United Kingdom ftp debian site. kept giving errors. What's the URL from where you got that info? Or you mean that appears as the default repo source of your /etc/apt/sources.list file? The

Re: incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Richard
On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:54:16 +1300 Chris Bannister mockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote: On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:15:22AM +0100, Richard wrote: Hi, I was having a problem with the listed url for the United Kingdom ftp debian site. kept giving errors. The correct country designator in

Re: incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Dom
On 09/10/11 14:51, Richard wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:54:16 +1300 Chris Bannistermockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote: On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:15:22AM +0100, Richard wrote: Hi, I was having a problem with the listed url for the United Kingdom ftp debian site. kept giving errors. The

Re: incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Richard
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:57:39 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 11:15:22 +0100, Richard wrote: I was having a problem with the listed url for the United Kingdom ftp debian site. kept giving errors. What's the URL from where you got that info? Or you mean

Re: incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Richard
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 16:41:17 +0100 Dom to...@rpdom.net wrote: On 09/10/11 14:51, Richard wrote: On Mon, 10 Oct 2011 01:54:16 +1300 Chris Bannistermockingb...@earthlight.co.nz wrote: On Sun, Oct 09, 2011 at 11:15:22AM +0100, Richard wrote: Hi, I was having a problem with the listed

Re: incorrect url in apt lists squeeze

2011-10-09 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 17:10:17 +0100, Richard wrote: On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 11:57:39 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) Hum... maybe related to this comment: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=513039#37 If still present in wheezy, this is something worth for

Spam policy in Debian Mailing Lists

2011-07-28 Thread Alexander Batischev
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 09:18:07PM +1000, Jimmy James wrote: How is your post *not* responding to spam? (polite question) I'm responding to you, not to spam message, to tell you that you shouldn't respond to spam too. you'll achieve nothing but Debian Mailing Lists' archives pollution

HTML messages are obsolete, especially for mailing lists

2011-07-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
From: lee Was: Subject: Re: alternative to kaffeine? Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:29:46 +0200 html messages are obsolete Full ACK, with one exception, it can be helpful for code, to avoid a wrap. It would be good if the list would filter HTML messages, since most of the spam is HTML formatted.

Re: HTML messages are obsolete, especially for mailing lists

2011-07-08 Thread Michael Checca
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:12:33 -0400, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: From: lee Was: Subject: Re: alternative to kaffeine? Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:29:46 +0200 html messages are obsolete Full ACK, with one exception, it can be helpful for code, to avoid a wrap. Pastebin is

Re: HTML messages are obsolete, especially for mailing lists

2011-07-08 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2011-07-08 at 20:55 -0400, Michael Checca wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:12:33 -0400, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote: From: lee Was: Subject: Re: alternative to kaffeine? Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:29:46 +0200 html messages are obsolete Full ACK, with one

Re: HTML messages are obsolete, especially for mailing lists

2011-07-08 Thread William Hopkins
On 07/09/11 at 02:12am, Ralf Mardorf wrote: From: lee Was: Subject: Re: alternative to kaffeine? Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 21:29:46 +0200 html messages are obsolete Full ACK, with one exception, it can be helpful for code, to avoid a wrap. I don't think that's a good exception; reformat

lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

2011-05-21 Thread jidanni
Fellows, there I was all ready for a webcam call with my potential date, but my romance was ruined by following sid too closely. For the last month lsusb often doesn't list anything http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=626368 And now my webcam is broken too. $ luvcview luvcview 0.2.6

Re: lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

2011-05-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/21/2011 05:51 AM, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: Fellows, there I was all ready for a webcam call with my potential date, but my romance was ruined by following sid too closely. [snip] Yes, I know. Don't use sid if you want a love life. How oh how did humanity survive w/o webcams?

Re: lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

2011-05-21 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 15:51, Ron Johnson ron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: How oh how did humanity survive w/o webcams?  GOML! We weren't competing with others that have them. Just like cellphones -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: lsusb lists nothing and webcam gone -- romance ruined

2011-05-21 Thread Ron Johnson
On 05/21/2011 08:07 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 15:51, Ron Johnsonron.l.john...@cox.net wrote: How oh how did humanity survive w/o webcams? GOML! We weren't competing with others that have them. Just like cellphones Fight with different weapons: I comb my hair and

the output of ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*.debian.org_* | wc -l is not constant

2011-03-05 Thread Regid Ichira
The output of that command varies by a +/-1 in the last couple of days. Why it that? Could it be related to security updates in stable? The listing itself is related to the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list. My sources.list uses: deb security stable/updates main contrib non-free

Re: the output of ls /var/lib/apt/lists/*.debian.org_* | wc -l is not constant

2011-03-05 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-03-05, Regid Ichira regi...@yahoo.com wrote: The output of that command varies by a +/-1 in the last couple of days. Why it that? Could it be related to security updates in stable? The listing itself is related to the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list. My sources.list uses:

Re (3): message threading in debian lists.

2011-01-26 Thread peasthope
From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 21:12:47 -0700 And you have been having such trouble with your vpn(s). To me that is like a house of cards. A light breeze blows it over. In order to be more robust it needs to be simpler, less rigid, and more flexible. Iprovements

Re: Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-19 Thread Lisi
On Wednesday 19 January 2011 04:12:47 Bob Proulx wrote: peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: You have a complicated setup! A complex setup. complicated is a verb. ... Sorry. Uhm... No. Complicated is an adjective. From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]: complicated adj :

Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread peasthope
From: Bob Proulx b...@proulx.com Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 21:59:42 -0700 You have a complicated setup! A complex setup. complicated is a verb. ... Sorry. It's simplifying slowly and surely. One helpful detail is to route to a LAN rather than to individual machines. route 172.23.0.0

Re: Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread Bob Proulx
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Bob Proulx wrote: You have a complicated setup! A complex setup. complicated is a verb. ... Sorry. Uhm... No. Complicated is an adjective. From WordNet (r) 2.0 [wn]: complicated adj : difficult to analyze or understand; a complicated problem;

Re: Re (2): message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-18 Thread Mike Bird
On Tue January 18 2011 20:12:47 Bob Proulx wrote: peasth...@shaw.ca wrote: Are you suggesting that all of dalton's 'net traffic go through the tunnel and Joule? Are you suggesting that all of joule's 'net traffic go through the tunnel and dalton? Aren't both significantly

message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-17 Thread peasthope
so for several years. As long as the tunnel works I can connect messages properly. Is threading of messages in Debian lists explained anywhere? I've never seen an explanation. A few years ago I found how to use Message-id and In-reply-to by exploration rather than straightforward reading

Re: message threading in debian lists; was Re (6): OpenVPN server mode usage.

2011-01-17 Thread Bob Proulx
-To isn't changing the subject line. (shrug) If the tunnel is broken I could simply refrain from retrieving mail to the MUA on cantor and read all mail with the Web based interface. It wasn't the end of the world. It was just annoying and so I noted it. Is threading of messages in Debian lists

Spam on Debian lists

2010-12-13 Thread Andrei Popescu
Dear debian-user readers, Because Debian has a policy of open lists (posting allowed without subscribing) it may happen that the occasional spam will pass the *excellent* filters. In such cases, please: - do not reply to the spam message, it makes it impossible to clean the archives

Re: It also lists the DBM library this is being used: s/this/that/ ?

2010-08-13 Thread Phil Requirements
On 2010-08-10 19:31:19 -0500, green wrote: Regid Ichira wrote at 2010-08-10 08:10 -0500: Does `It also lists the DBM library this is being used' a correct English phrase? Probably not. And neither is your question; 's/Does/Is' :) I suppose you could submit a severity=minor bug about

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