Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread s. keeling
Sid Arth [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Im sorry if this isnt the best place to voice such a question, but I Perfect place. am a bit new to mailing lists and so on. I was wondering how to reply to a message but in a way so everybody in the list gets it, but without starting a whole new thread. Hit

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Eric d'Alibut wrote: On 9/24/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gmail currently does not have a reply-to-list feature so replying (only) to the list is a bit pain. I just hit 'reply,' delete the poster's email, and then start to type d-e-b and gmail pops up a list in

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/25/07, s. keeling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hit reply. If it's a new question, post to a new thread. Your new question deserves its own thread. If you're replying to an existing thread, reply ought to do it, barring serious breakage of standeards by your newsreader. What newsreader

Re: How to reply in the mailing lists

2007-09-24 Thread Eric d'Alibut
On 9/25/07, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Being super lazy by nature, I count the number of key strokes to achieve the end result. If you are using knode all it takes is one key stroke - 'r'. Comparing that to your method counts as a pain in my dictionary :-) And I'm much too

contact lists for Dentists

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physician mailing lists

2007-09-10 Thread Clara E Light
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Re: [HS] Signatures sur ma iling lists Was: Re: Les emails signé s d'Eric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-29 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Tue, Aug 28, 2007 at 04:24:23PM +0200, Daniel Huhardeaux wrote: La confiance est une notion qui se fonde sur la durée et non sur l'instant. Donc signature non nécessaire. Les archives de la liste vous en seront reconnaissantes Personellement, je comprend la 1ere phrase comme disant que

Re: [HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'E ric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-28 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Hugues LARRIVE a écrit : [...] C'est sympa: em..dez des centaines (milliers?) de personnes simplement parceque l'on ne veut pas faire un petit effort. Et comment veux tu prouver que tu as dis/pas dis? Et qui s'inquiète sur une liste comme celle ci de savoir qui a dis ou pas dis?

Re: [HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'Eric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-28 Thread lionel chanson
Sur gmail les signatures sont la plupart du temps dans un fichier en pièce jointe ( signature.asc ) ++ PS : désolé Hugues pour l'envoi du mail en direct... mais c'est la seule liste où un reply utilise l'adresse de l'expéditeur et j'oublie fréquemment de la modifier. Le 28/08/07, Hugues LARRIVE

Re: [HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'Eric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-28 Thread Eric DECORNOD
Bonjour, Je m'excuse par avance pour mon message un peu long et pour alimenter¹ encore le troll du mois (le point Godwin étant passé depuis longtemps). Le mardi 14 août 2007 15:21, Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit : Plus simple: ne pas mettre de signature. Personne n'est intéressé sur la liste de

Re: [HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'E ric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-28 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Eric DECORNOD a écrit : [...] Ainsi je vous retourne vos arguments : - le plus simple est de ne pas mettre de signature, personne n'est intéressé sur la liste de savoir si on peux vous joindre par d'autres moyens que la liste. Les pieds de la liste n'en seront que plus lisible, surtout sans

[HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'Eric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-27 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Monday 27 August 2007 19:43:22 Christophe Alonso, vous avez écrit : [...] Il serait bon d'en profiter pour redire encore une fois, qu'une signature gpg sur une liste de diffusion ça n'a aucun intérêt et il semble évident désormais que c'est même une source de problème. Ce n'est pourtant pas

Re: [HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'E ric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-27 Thread Daniel Huhardeaux
Gilles Mocellin a écrit : Le Monday 27 August 2007 19:43:22 Christophe Alonso, vous avez écrit : [...] Il serait bon d'en profiter pour redire encore une fois, qu'une signature gpg sur une liste de diffusion ça n'a aucun intérêt et il semble évident désormais que c'est même une source de

Re: [HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'Eric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-27 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Monday 27 August 2007 22:02:07 Daniel Huhardeaux, vous avez écrit : Gilles Mocellin a écrit : Le Monday 27 August 2007 19:43:22 Christophe Alonso, vous avez écrit : [...] Il serait bon d'en profiter pour redire encore une fois, qu'une signature gpg sur une liste de diffusion ça n'a

Re: [HS] Signatures sur ma iling lists Was: Re: Les emails signé s d'Eric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-27 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Mon, Aug 27, 2007 at 10:02:07PM +0200, Daniel Huhardeaux wrote: C'est sympa: em..dez des centaines (milliers?) de personnes simplement parceque l'on ne veut pas faire un petit effort. Heu, on parle bien d'un problème chez les _receveurs_ non? Et comment veux tu prouver que tu as

Re: [HS] Signatures sur mailing lists Was: Re: Les emails signés d'E ric DECORNOD font bugger Enigmail

2007-08-27 Thread Hugues LARRIVE
Daniel Huhardeaux a écrit : Gilles Mocellin a écrit : Le Monday 27 August 2007 19:43:22 Christophe Alonso, vous avez écrit : [...] Il serait bon d'en profiter pour redire encore une fois, qu'une signature gpg sur une liste de diffusion ça n'a aucun intérêt et il semble évident désormais

lists down? or did I get dropped?

2007-07-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
I haven't seen mail from the list in over 6 hours despite lists.d.o/d-u showing many mails in the archive. My last one was about 18:08 pacific, US, or 01:08 UTC Friday the 13th. Anybody else? better cc me just in case. A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: lists down? or did I get dropped?

2007-07-13 Thread Kumar Appaiah
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 12:23:18AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I haven't seen mail from the list in over 6 hours despite lists.d.o/d-u showing many mails in the archive. My last one was about 18:08 pacific, US, or 01:08 UTC Friday the 13th. Anybody else? I think I am getting the

Re: lists down? or did I get dropped?

2007-07-13 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I haven't seen mail from the list in over 6 hours despite lists.d.o/d-u showing many mails in the archive. My last one was about 18:08 pacific, US, or 01:08 UTC Friday the 13th. Anybody else? better cc me just in case. A Let's see... Friday the 13th!? That's

Re: lists down? or did I get dropped?

2007-07-13 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 01:21:18PM +0530, Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 12:23:18AM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: I haven't seen mail from the list in over 6 hours despite lists.d.o/d-u showing many mails in the archive. My last one was about 18:08 pacific, US, or 01:08

Re: lists down? or did I get dropped?

2007-07-13 Thread David Fox
yeah. interesting. I got my own list mail back right away. THen shortly thereafter I got one that had been processed by the list maybe 7 or 8 hours previously. Now I've got about 50 or so. The tubes must have been clogged... or something .. i know (raises hand) they were all deported to cuba

Re: Yanıt: Re: debian-user-turkish@lists. debian.org gelen mailleri debiandan nasil kontr ol edebilirim?

2006-12-03 Thread Atilla Duru
Hakan COSKUN yazmış: Cok Tesekkurler Ayrıca bir sorum daha olucak maile cevap vermişssin siz bende cevapla diyince sizin mail adresinize gore cevapla diyor bu listeye gidermi yoksa baska bir sekildemi cevaplamak gerekiyor. Cok tesekkürler iyi calısmalar Hakan COSKUN --- Atilla Duru [EMAIL

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-28 Thread Wayne Topa
updat or install/remove package. Thanks for your time regerds I am having similar problems while doing Etch or Testing updates. ie aptitude|apt-get downloads the package lists but some show up as FAILED in /var/lib/apt/lists. A good download of the same package turns out be the same size

Re: How can I update the pkg lists on a non-networked debian?

2006-11-24 Thread Magnus Therning
On Fri, Nov 24, 2006 at 09:45:04 +0800, Jed R. Mallen wrote: But all I want is to update my /var/lib/apt/lists/* so that I can download only pkgs that *need* to be downloaded (via apt-get -qq --print-uris install pkg) when I want to install a certain package. I guess there's no other way except

Re: How can I update the pkg lists on a non-networked debian?

2006-11-23 Thread Russell L. Harris
, but you have to have an updated pkg list for this to work. You can manually download the package files and stick them in /var/lib/apt/lists. The easiest thing is of course to have a second machine that is networked. At the cost of burning a set of possibly as many as 15 CDs or 3 DVDs: (1

Re: How can I update the pkg lists on a non-networked debian?

2006-11-23 Thread Jed R. Mallen
But all I want is to update my /var/lib/apt/lists/* so that I can download only pkgs that *need* to be downloaded (via apt-get -qq --print-uris install pkg) when I want to install a certain package. I guess there's no other way except downloading Packages.txts from the Debian mirror sites (eg

How can I update the pkg lists on a non-networked debian?

2006-11-22 Thread Jed R. Mallen
Hello, I have a non-networked debian box at home and a high-bandwidth XP box at work. I want to upgrade my Debian box. apt-zip says it can upgrade a non-networked box, but you have to have an updated pkg list for this to work. My problem is doing an update. Because the box has no internet

Re: How can I update the pkg lists on a non-networked debian?

2006-11-22 Thread Magnus Therning
can manually download the package files and stick them in /var/lib/apt/lists. The easiest thing is of course to have a second machine that is networked. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http

Re: mail lists

2006-11-17 Thread Ozgur Karatas
Hocam merhaba, ben sanki sizin mailing list yaziliminiz vardi diye hatirliyorum. Bunu sundan soruyorum, bir urun vardi da memnun kalmadiniz mi ? Ben Mailman'i onerecegim. Pyhton ile yazilmis kurulumu biraz kasar ancak her istediginizi yapabilirsiniz. web arayuzu bulunmaktadir. Tek sorun

Re: mail lists

2006-11-17 Thread Ozgur Karatas
Tekrar selamlar, daha once qmail+ldap+mailman ve postfix+ldap+mailman postfix+dbmail+mailman+psql paketlerini kullanarak uc farkli mail sunucu kurup test etmistim. en cok ta postfix+psql+mailman uclusunde oldukca iyi sonuclar aldim. sistemde sadece python olmasi yeterli aslinda ama aix icin

mail lists

2006-11-16 Thread funkypunky drunky
Arkadaşlar büyük bir sistem için mail listesi oluşturmak istiyoruz. Çeşitli konularda gruplar olacak. Ama sizin tavsiye edebileceğiniz bir mail list manager var mı? Çeşitli örnekler var ama kullanıyor olupta önerebileceğiniz varsa sevinirim iyi çalışmalar

Re: mail lists

2006-11-16 Thread altay ozaygen
odtu'de mailman ve http://www.openinfo.co.uk/mm/index.html sayfasindan indirilen yamalari kullaniyoruz, memnunuz. kolay gelsin altay ozaygen funkypunky drunky wrote: Arkadaşlar büyük bir sistem için mail listesi oluşturmak istiyoruz. Çeşitli konularda gruplar olacak. Ama sizin tavsiye

Re: mail lists

2006-11-16 Thread Afsin Taskiran
Selamlar; qmail kullaniyorsaniz ezmlm yi kullanmalisiniz. Asagidaki adresten ilgili bilgileri ogrenebilirsiniz. http://www.inter7.com/?page=qmail iyi calismalar Afsin Taskiran On Thu, 2006-11-16 at 16:48 +0200, funkypunky drunky wrote: Arkadaşlar büyük bir sistem için mail listesi

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-08 Thread Shams-Eddine Fantar
mess-mate a écrit : Bonjour, Bonsoir, je viens de upgrader de sarge vers etch. cela c'est fait après plusieurs tentatives. cependant, maintenant que je veux faire un apt-get update, j'ai le message suivant pour TOUS les deb's dans ma source.list: /var/lib/apt/lists

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-08 Thread mess-mate
Douglas Tutty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 09:12:26PM +0100, mess-mate wrote: | Hi | after a upgrade from sarge to etch (done yet); | and a new apt-get update, these are the errors i received from all | my deb's in my sources.list : | (/var/lib/apt/lists

/var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-07 Thread mess-mate
Bonjour, je viens de upgrader de sarge vers etch. cela c'est fait après plusieurs tentatives. cependant, maintenant que je veux faire un apt-get update, j'ai le message suivant pour TOUS les deb's dans ma source.list: /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-07 Thread Glennie Vignarajah
, ^^ Vous voulez dire 'apt-get upgrade'? /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_bin ary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Le contenu de ce répertoire est mis à jour par 'apt-get update'. Essayez de supprimer l'entrée correspondant à

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-07 Thread mess-mate
apt-get update, | ^^ | | Vous voulez dire 'apt-get upgrade'? Non, l'upgrade est déjà fait et la machine tourne. | | /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_bin | ary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-07 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA
Bonjour, Le mardi 07 novembre 2006, mess-mate a écrit... /var/lib/apt/lists/security.debian.org_dists_etch_updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Chez moi ce fichier existe et est vide. Crée le avec la commande magique `touch`. -- jm A.E.L. Sarl

/var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-07 Thread mess-mate
Hi after a upgrade from sarge to etch (done yet); and a new apt-get update, these are the errors i received from all my deb's in my sources.list : (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.skynet.be_ftp_debian_dists_etch_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) Any help would be very

Re: /var/lib/apt/lists

2006-11-07 Thread Douglas Tutty
On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 09:12:26PM +0100, mess-mate wrote: Hi after a upgrade from sarge to etch (done yet); and a new apt-get update, these are the errors i received from all my deb's in my sources.list : (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.debian.skynet.be_ftp_debian_dists_etch_main_binary

OT: Workarounds: using mailing lists with gmail

2006-09-30 Thread Andrei Popescu
Hello all, As you all gmail users on the list are aware, you can't receive your own posts through the list if you post using gmail (web interface or smtp), because gmail siletly drops them as being identical (though they're not) to the sent mail. To me it is very annoying if I don't see my own

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-29 Thread Stephen
consideration, for such an individual(s) in charge of the Debian Project Web site, FTP, OR the e-mail lists. I don't think accountability hinders, it helps with transparency. I used FWIW as I'm not a Debian developer, merely a satisfied user. That shouldn't matter though eh ? ;) P.S. The delayed

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Seth Goodman
On Monday, September 25, 2006 8:08 PM -0500, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: IIRC, the Debian lists are powered by mailman. Have they just disabled this functionality, or is it a technical/political issue? If they use Mailman, there is a feature to allow users to determine whether they receive list

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 03:35:27AM +0100 or thereabouts, Andrew Saunders wrote: On 9/24/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't such things ever get submitted for a vote, to see exactly where the membership stands on this ? I would guess that the vast majority of those who post

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 9/26/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a non-issue. I agree. However much you might wish it, list policy is not determined by plebiscite. -- Andrew Saunders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 03:21:14PM +0100 or thereabouts, Andrew Saunders wrote: On 9/26/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a non-issue. I agree. However much you might wish it, list policy is not determined by plebiscite. Hi Andrew: Thanks for your comments. It should be, pretty

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 9/26/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should be, pretty much everything else in the Debian Project calls for votes in order for a consensus. Heh - not quite. :-) The Constitution [1] spells out the organisational structure for formal decision-making within the Project. Have a read;

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 06:05:10PM +0100 or thereabouts, Andrew Saunders wrote: On 9/26/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It should be, pretty much everything else in the Debian Project calls for votes in order for a consensus. Heh - not quite. :-) The Constitution [1] spells out the

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread David Jardine
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: [...] I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: [...] 3) allow users to temporarily turn off list mail Once you've got used to how a mailing list works, which the above users presumably have, it's

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 9/26/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This appears only relevant to assets and The Debian project as a whole. How so? Personally, I'd say that the listmasters are clearly individual Developer(s) working on a particular task who may make any technical or nontechnical decision with

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread Seth Goodman
On Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:17 PM -0500, David Jardine wrote: On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: [...] I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: [...] 3) allow users to temporarily turn off list mail Once you've got used

Re: closing mailing lists

2006-09-26 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:51:08 -0400, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It should be, pretty much everything else in the Debian Project calls for votes in order for a consensus. Wrong. Most of the decisions made in the project are technical -- and we never vote on technical issues

Re: closing mailing lists

2006-09-26 Thread Stephen
On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 05:35:07PM -0500 or thereabouts, Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:51:08 -0400, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: It should be, pretty much everything else in the Debian Project calls for votes in order for a consensus. Wrong. Most of the

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-26 Thread s. keeling
Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tue, Sep 26, 2006 at 03:21:14PM +0100 or thereabouts, Andrew Saunders wr= ote: On 9/26/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's a non-issue. I agree. However much you might wish it, list policy is not determined by plebiscite. It should be,

Re: closing mailing lists

2006-09-26 Thread s. keeling
of spam coming from Debian mailing lists to which they've subscribed. I think it's a trivial issue but others may not have managed to come up with solutions I've discovered to mitigate the problem. The problem of spam on debian lists is trivial for me. I really don't see it as a big deal

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Seth Goodman
that for an occasional poster to a high volume list, it is a burden to require them to receive all list traffic. It's not a problem when the list allows subscribing for posting only (i.e. majordomo 'nomail', Mailman 'set delivery off'). Debian lists don't provide this feature. It would also be helpful

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500, Seth Goodman wrote: I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: 1) allow users to subscribe for posting only, IIRC, the Debian lists are powered by mailman. Have they just disabled this functionality, or is it a technical

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Stephen
On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:53:21PM -0500 or thereabouts, Seth Goodman wrote: I think the following would make Debian lists better for everyone: 1) allow users to subscribe for posting only, 2) require users to subscribe before posting and 3) allow users to temporarily turn off list mail

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-25 Thread Andrew Saunders
On 9/24/06, Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't such things ever get submitted for a vote, to see exactly where the membership stands on this ? I would guess that the vast majority of those who post without being subscribed don't follow the list except to monitor follow-ups to their

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-24 Thread Stephen
On Sat, Sep 23, 2006 at 01:22:30PM -0500 or thereabouts, Seth Goodman wrote: You are right in saying there is no apparent way to subscribe without getting all the list traffic. Without this feature, it is impractical to require that posters first confirm their email address. Why ? I don't

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-24 Thread Hans du Plooy
On Sun, 2006-09-24 at 09:34 -0400, Stephen wrote: One can endlessly debate the issue, but at the end of the day, if the majority wish this to be implemented, then it should be done. The views of a few, should never outweigh those of the majority, and it doesn't in the slightest prevent

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-23 Thread Seth Goodman
On Friday, September 22, 2006 12:15 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: Seth Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 mails/day just for a simple answer. There's no

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-22 Thread Andrei Popescu
Seth Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 mails/day just for a simple answer. There's no reason you have to receive list traffic. You can already do this if you

re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-22 Thread celejar
On 9/22/06, Andrei Popescu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seth Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 mails/day just for a simple answer. There's no reason you have to

closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
to debian to subscribe -- Subscribing to e-mail lists is done pretty much everywhere, so it's an expected task, by pretty much anyone using them. I have already seen spammer subscribed to the mailing list just to push the spam into it. We may expect more, as lists will become more closed. I don't think

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Stephen
that step. I don't buy the argument that it's too much of a hurdle to expect a newbie to debian to subscribe -- Subscribing to e-mail lists is done pretty much everywhere, so it's an expected task, by pretty much anyone using them. I have already seen spammer subscribed to the mailing list

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Seth Goodman
On Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:44 PM -0500, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I don't think that closing mailing lists is the right way to fight against spam. The question is whether requiring a user to answer one confirmation message before posting is any real burden. You have to send mail

Re: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Andrei Popescu
Seth Goodman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, September 21, 2006 1:44 PM -0500, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: I don't think that closing mailing lists is the right way to fight against spam. The question is whether requiring a user to answer one confirmation message before posting

RE: closing mailing lists (was: spamcop)

2006-09-21 Thread Seth Goodman
On Thursday, September 21, 2006 3:38 PM -0500, Andrei Popescu wrote: It's not nice to require *everybody* to receive 100-150 mails/day just for a simple answer. There's no reason you have to receive list traffic. You can already do this if you subscribe via email. There is no reason the web

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-30 Thread Kevin Buhr
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I send from thunderbird from any machine, it works as it is connecting directly to santiago. If I use mutt on santiago, it works fine there as well since it is running an instance of Postfix which can be reached from the public internet. My

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-30 Thread Kevin Buhr
Kevin Buhr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The final alternative is to employ ugly per-MUA hacks, like the use_from Mutt option that Andrew mentioned. Whoops... It looks like Andrew's descriptions were a little mixed up. According to the Mutt manual, it isn't use_from that does this, it's

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-08 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
) - Internet Now, miami runs postfix, but it is not accessible from the outside. Now, when I am using mutt on miami, sending a message to the Sourceforge mailing lists generates a reply like this to santiago (which acts as the smarthost) since the Return-Path is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aug 7 20

Re: [OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-08 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Tue, Aug 08, 2006 at 01:06:04PM -0700, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: what does your From header look like? Is it supposed to show a return address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] I would assume not, that it should show a return address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] The point is, are you setting your From

[OT] Sourceforge lists and Return-Path header

2006-08-07 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
. Now, when I am using mutt on miami, sending a message to the Sourceforge mailing lists generates a reply like this to santiago (which acts as the smarthost) since the Return-Path is set to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Aug 7 20:28:50 santiago postfix/smtp[11711]: 778272403E: to=courier-imap

Using real email addresses to mailing lists (was Re: securing an Ubuntu box in a shared office?)

2006-07-06 Thread Stephen R Laniel
On Thu, Jul 06, 2006 at 05:40:12PM -0400, Kamaraju Kusumanchi wrote: But not everyone has the resources to run a dedicated mail server and maintain it. Many people use webmail such as gmail, yahoo, hotmail etc., What about them? They should suffer by exposing their email address to the

Re: Using real email addresses to mailing lists (was Re: securing an Ubuntu box in a shared office?)

2006-07-06 Thread Kamaraju Kusumanchi
problems with d-u. But I am having problems with other mailing lists like vim where I had to approve the new from addresses manually. More details at http://forums.bluebottle.com/index.php?showtopic=221 But this inconvenience is minor compared to going through hundreds of emails in gmail's spam

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-25 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Rodolfo Medina wrote: In my experience, it is possible to read and send messages to debian lists in at least three ways: e.g., the present one: via `debian-user' mailing list; through `linux.debian.user' newsgroup; through `gmane.linux.debian.user' newsgroup. Now, I realised

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-25 Thread T
On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:39:47 +0200, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Paul Johnson wrote: Different mail to news gateways. The gmane.* heirarchy is generally the best mail to news gateways. T [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 2nd to that. Sorry, what do you mean with `2nd to that'? (My English is not

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-24 Thread T
On Sun, 21 May 2006 10:11:28 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: On Sunday 21 May 2006 09:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID into a different value. Different mail to

About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-21 Thread Rodolfo Medina
Hi, all. In my experience, it is possible to read and send messages to debian lists in at least three ways: e.g., the present one: via `debian-user' mailing list; through `linux.debian.user' newsgroup; through `gmane.linux.debian.user' newsgroup. Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user

Re: About newsgroups related to debian lists

2006-05-21 Thread Paul Johnson
On Sunday 21 May 2006 09:18, Rodolfo Medina wrote: Now, I realised that `gmane.linux.debian.user' preserves the message's original headers, whereas `linux.debian.user' changes the Message ID into a different value. Different mail to news gateways. The gmane.* heirarchy is generally the best

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-03 Thread Bill Marcum
I'm pretty sure you can post via news, at least on gmane.org, and am testing it with this very message. -- Christopher Nelson -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: Thanks, I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not

View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
Thanks, I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... I'll keep trying... Most sincerely, Love is very patient and kind, never jealous or envious, never boastful or proud, never haughty

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: Thanks, I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... I'll keep trying... Most sincerely, with all due respect, you must

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Martin A. Brooks
Andrew Sackville-West wrote: with all due respect, you must not send such lengthy signatures in your emails to this list. Andrew, you should also quote and trim properly when replying to list email ;) -- Martin A. Brooks | http://www.antibodymx.net/ | Anti-spam anti-virus Consultant

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 11:34:33PM +0200, Martin A. Brooks wrote: Andrew Sackville-West wrote: with all due respect, you must not send such lengthy signatures in your emails to this list. Andrew, you should also quote and trim properly when replying to list email ;) point well taken,

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Christopher Nelson
On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote: Thanks, I appreciate the help, but that didn't work... it's not lists.debian.org or linux.debian.user... I'll keep trying... If you're doing gmane.org, it's gmane.linux.debian.user Once you attempt your first

RE: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Daniel L. McGrew
-Original Message- From: Andrew Sackville-West [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 02, 2006 4:32 PM To: debian-user@lists.debian.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader On Tue, May 02, 2006 at 04:20:08PM -0500, Daniel L. McGrew wrote

Re: View Debian mailing lists in a news reader

2006-05-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
Daniel L. McGrew wrote: Here is a smaller sig... sorry... I didn't mean to annoy anyone... Most sincerely, For GOD so LOVED the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever should believe in him should not perish but have everlasting live -

forward newsgroup messages to mailing lists

2006-04-03 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Hi all My actual problem is to forward the messages that appear in news groups http://groups.google.com/group/cornell.marketplace/ http://groups.google.com/group/ithaca.marketplace/ http://groups.google.com/group/ithaca.general/ etc., to a mailing list

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-20 Thread Florian Kulzer
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Florian Kulzer: [...] generated garbage addresses. I recall seeing quite sophisticated implementations of this, in which an invisible (for normal users) link on a webpage leads email harvesting robots into a maze of dynamically generated bogus pages full of

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-19 Thread Florian Kulzer
s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Florian Kulzer: s. keeling wrote: [...] Consider joining my (ad hoc) Poison The Well project: http://www.spots.ab.ca/~keeling/emails.html Maybe I misunderstand what you are doing, but aren't you increasing the spam load for people whose real email

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-19 Thread s. keeling
goes, munging, or otherwise hiding your email address, is essentially pointless. I've been posting to mailing lists and Usenet using my real email address since about 1996. I don't hide from spammers. I'm a living honeypot, if you will. My real email address used in mailing list and Usenet posts

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-18 Thread Andrew Sackville-West
to feel that users are getting confused between multiple forms of support available - forums.debian.net http://forums.debian.net and other mailing lists such as debian-user for example. It's not an issue in my mind. However you can get the best answers to your

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-18 Thread Hex Star
PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to feel that users are getting confused between multiple forms of support available - forums.debian.net http://forums.debian.net and other mailing lists such as debian-user

Re: users getting confused between mailing lists and forums?

2006-03-18 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, Mar 18, 2006 at 12:13:44AM -0500, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote: I might be acting a bit paranoid here but I am starting to feel that users are getting confused between multiple forms of support available - forums.debian.net and other mailing lists such as debian-user for example

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi
Hex Star wrote: Hi, I've noticed that in the archive of this list, the posts I made publicly contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc) it's

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Hex Star: [snip] contain my full email address instead of it being obfuscated like on other lists (e.g. they change email addresses in the archive to something like user[at]domain[dot]com or user domain com, etc) it's fully displayed in its original format making it perfect

Re: Poster to this lists email address not obfuscated? If so it makes this list a heaven for spam bots...:-(

2006-03-18 Thread Hex Star
gets harvested by even more spam bots...and btw, how could people not like gmails conversation model? :P I love it, especially for mailing lists because it makes following the postings really easy, just click the first post in the mailing list thread in the gmail webmail interface and then you get

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